DUST Search - By no means is the new aim assist "Aimbot"

Lurchasaurus wrote:

Killar-12 wrote:

N1ck Comeau wrote:

I just played a match with the Exile Assault rifle.

Using the gun at close range was no problem. But i could say the same about the HMG or the submachine gun or the shotgun (when it hits)

You couldn't not move your stick and have it still follow at their head. That is such a lie. I tried that like 10 times.

Also the aim assist will not keep you dead on a sprinting target. You will have to make some semi hard to make adjustments.

It is a lot better than 1.3. But by no means is it an "Aimbot"

However hit detection feels super improved so maybe thats why they feel like people have aimbot. They're not used to getting hit so much.

Hit detection, seems worse, anyway Aim Assist on the strong side though compared to other games, It makes my hard earned good gungame feel like junk, the assist is a crutch, I (and plenty of other people) have been able to do well without aim assist.

obv there needs to be some assist, especially with m+kb in the game, but it shouldnt aim for you

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N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1245	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:14:00 - [1] - Quote I just played a match with the Exile Assault rifle. Using the gun at close range was no problem. But i could say the same about the HMG or the submachine gun or the shotgun (when it hits) You couldn't not move your stick and have it still follow at their head. That is such a lie. I tried that like 10 times. Also the aim assist will not keep you dead on a sprinting target. You will have to make some semi hard to make adjustments. It is a lot better than 1.3. But by no means is it an "Aimbot" However hit detection feels super improved so maybe thats why they feel like people have aimbot. They're not used to getting hit so much.
howard sanchez DUST University Ivy League 683	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:18:00 - [2] - Quote Thanks Nick, honest objective feedback. Doing it right
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws 895	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:21:00 - [3] - Quote The aim assist is noticeable to me but mostly because it didn't exist before.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1387	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:21:00 - [4] - Quote howard sanchez wrote: Thanks Nick, honest objective feedback. Doing it right lol coming from the guy who was just defending the aimbot because he said he cant kill without it. I, as well as many others, have tested this in game and know for a fact that the reticule will follow targets with the controller on the floor. Aim assist is off by default, so unless you went and turned it on this morning, you have been testing aim assist with it off.
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1251	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:22:00 - [5] - Quote howard sanchez wrote: Thanks Nick, honest objective feedback. Doing it right Thank you, means a lot.
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1251	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:23:00 - [6] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: howard sanchez wrote: Thanks Nick, honest objective feedback. Doing it right lol coming from the guy who was just defending the aimbot because he said he cant kill without it. I, as well as many others, have tested this in game and know for a fact that the reticule will follow targets with the controller on the floor. Aim assist is off by default, so unless you went and turned it on this morning, you have been testing aim assist with it off. Thats a lie. My aim assist is on and it will not do that.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders 759	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:23:00 - [7] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: I just played a match with the Exile Assault rifle. Using the gun at close range was no problem. But i could say the same about the HMG or the submachine gun or the shotgun (when it hits) You couldn't not move your stick and have it still follow at their head. That is such a lie. I tried that like 10 times. Also the aim assist will not keep you dead on a sprinting target. You will have to make some semi hard to make adjustments. It is a lot better than 1.3. But by no means is it an "Aimbot" However hit detection feels super improved so maybe thats why they feel like people have aimbot. They're not used to getting hit so much. Hit detection, seems worse, anyway Aim Assist on the strong side though compared to other games, It makes my hard earned good gungame feel like junk, the assist is a crutch, I (and plenty of other people) have been able to do well without aim assist.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 82	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:23:00 - [8] - Quote I must admit the one match I have had time for, was just ar spam, did you find your TTK much better or near the same?? I forsee the death of the MD!!
Poonmunch Sanguis Defense Syndicate 270	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:23:00 - [9] - Quote Yah, it's good to see level-headed, objective feedback. Gawd, you'd think Al-Queda just dropped a nuke if you read the rest of these forums. Munch
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1251	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:23:00 - [10] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: The aim assist is noticeable to me but mostly because it didn't exist before. As most people probably feel

Vin Vicious Capital Acquisitions LLC Public Disorder. 316	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:24:00 - [11] - Quote Compared to Kb&m you guys have aimbots, tonight ill make a video showing you what it's like to be a KB & m player after 1.4
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1251	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:24:00 - [12] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: I must admit the one match I have had time for, was just ar spam, did you find your TTK much better or near the same?? I forsee the death of the MD!! TTK feels about the same. But it must be faster sens aiming is a tad easier and hit detection is miles ahead of before.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1387	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:25:00 - [13] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: I just played a match with the Exile Assault rifle. Using the gun at close range was no problem. But i could say the same about the HMG or the submachine gun or the shotgun (when it hits) You couldn't not move your stick and have it still follow at their head. That is such a lie. I tried that like 10 times. Also the aim assist will not keep you dead on a sprinting target. You will have to make some semi hard to make adjustments. It is a lot better than 1.3. But by no means is it an "Aimbot" However hit detection feels super improved so maybe thats why they feel like people have aimbot. They're not used to getting hit so much. Hit detection, seems worse, anyway Aim Assist on the strong side though compared to other games, It makes my hard earned good gungame feel like junk, the assist is a crutch, I (and plenty of other people) have been able to do well without aim assist. obv there needs to be some assist, especially with m+kb in the game, but it shouldnt aim for you
marksmn Gespenster Kompanie Villore Accords 22	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:25:00 - [14] - Quote Aim assist works to well I was running and jumping at guys And my aim was near perfect or maybe I'm wrong and I became mlg over night
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders 759	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:27:00 - [15] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: Killar-12 wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: I just played a match with the Exile Assault rifle. Using the gun at close range was no problem. But i could say the same about the HMG or the submachine gun or the shotgun (when it hits) You couldn't not move your stick and have it still follow at their head. That is such a lie. I tried that like 10 times. Also the aim assist will not keep you dead on a sprinting target. You will have to make some semi hard to make adjustments. It is a lot better than 1.3. But by no means is it an "Aimbot" However hit detection feels super improved so maybe thats why they feel like people have aimbot. They're not used to getting hit so much. Hit detection, seems worse, anyway Aim Assist on the strong side though compared to other games, It makes my hard earned good gungame feel like junk, the assist is a crutch, I (and plenty of other people) have been able to do well without aim assist. obv there needs to be some assist, especially with m+kb in the game, but it shouldnt aim for you true, but the strength of the assist is huge, hell this is coming from a DS3 person.
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1259	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:30:00 - [16] - Quote Vin Vicious wrote: Compared to Kb&m you guys have aimbots, tonight ill make a video showing you what it's like to be a KB & m player after 1.4 We do not. How hard is this to understand?
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 83	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:30:00 - [17] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: I must admit the one match I have had time for, was just ar spam, did you find your TTK much better or near the same?? I forsee the death of the MD!! TTK feels about the same. But it must be faster sens aiming is a tad easier and hit detection is miles ahead of before. Good good, I was prepared to have an adapt or die fight on my hands, but I always knew Id have to play a little smarter, have you seen the lighting effect on the md slugs, its like I have a flare attached now, its frigin awsome!!
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1387	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:32:00 - [18] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: Vin Vicious wrote: Compared to Kb&m you guys have aimbots, tonight ill make a video showing you what it's like to be a KB & m player after 1.4 We do not. How hard is this to understand? lol
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1259	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:34:00 - [19] - Quote Tried for a second game. Read the edited post at the top.
Minor Treat The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 78	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:37:00 - [20] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: howard sanchez wrote: Thanks Nick, honest objective feedback. Doing it right lol coming from the guy who was just defending the aimbot because he said he cant kill without it. I, as well as many others, have tested this in game and know for a fact that the reticule will follow targets with the controller on the floor. Aim assist is off by default, so unless you went and turned it on this morning, you have been testing aim assist with it off. first off aim assist is not off by default, it was off because there was a bug in the aim assist post uprising release. So in order to fix this they had to pull aim assist out of the game and rework it, by doing so most players had already got use to shooting without aim assist. So now that it is on again people really see how aim assist helps with smoother shooting as opposed to the rough ridged shooting mechanics before.

Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F 1426	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:37:00 - [21] - Quote ive only used my nova knives so I haven't tested it yet :p
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 1025	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:43:00 - [22] - Quote I haven't tested it, and most likely don't going too... you know why ? because if that is what it takes for people to stop complaining about the mouse, i more than welcome the change. Now.. for those complaining about the mouse.. ; We have "Raw Input" now, which means that you have to train your "Muscle Memory".. it will take you few days to get use to it, but you will love it after that. I will post few links tomorrow to Muscle Memory exercises that you can do online.
Scalesdini The Surrogates Of War 137	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:51:00 - [23] - Quote At medium range, the aim assist is essentially aimbot. It tracks your target for you. At very close or very long ranges it's more of an actual aim assist. If you think the aim assist is not noticeable and is not capable of tracking targets with 0 input on your right stick, turn it off for a few matches. You will feel differently. Don't even get me started on the fact that the aim "assist" will suck your crosshairs up to the enemy's head if you stay on target for a second or so, leading to many many more headshots today than there were yesterday. Fixing hit detection problems and buffing the aim assist in the same update was an awful, awful idea. Now combine those two things with the laser-like accuracy of AR's - the most widely used weapon - and you'll understand why people are complaining. Speaking as a DS3 user who despises the notion that we need any manner of aim assist to compete with kb/m, take the aim assist out. You're going to train us all to be lazy, inaccurate baddies who rely on the computer to aim for us. I turned the aim assist on today to see how bad it was and I can literally see myself forgetting how to aim properly if you leave this in the game. tl;dr - Aim "assist" is obscene. It needs removed, or nerfed at minimum. Anyone who disagrees with this point is terrible at aiming and should be ignored entirely because they're incapable of forming an unbiased opinion on the matter.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 7971	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:53:00 - [24] - Quote The only thing I noticed is I don't track dead or spawning people anymore. I am still screwing with the sensitivity though its not feeling right to me at the very moment for aiming.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1388	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:57:00 - [25] - Quote seems the only people who are defending the aimbot right now are the ones who need it. any competitive player sees what is going on and is appalled. Not to mention the ARs in this game have always had laser beam accuracy while aiming.....
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1190	Posted - 2013.09.03 23:00:00 - [26] - Quote I just played my first match, first try netted me skirmish, so I backed out and tried again, got ambush (what I wanted). The entire match was 5 vs 2, I was on the team with 5 players (would have been a pretty balanced match if I was placed on the side with only 2 players). Pretty uneventful for the entire match, mostly just running around with nothing to do or shoot, but there was one guy on the other team who was using some insanely fast suit using remotes and a shotty. I was able to aim and shoot at him several times, both from the hip and ADS, and to be honest I barely noticed any aim assist whatsoever. Certainly no aim-bot like the forums led me to believe. If anything the aiming just felt better than it did before, but nothing extreme. For something that is almost imperceptible, people sure blow it out of proportion. I will be trying it out a lot more tonight when I am on my peak playing time, and for grins I turned aim-assist off, then turned it back on after my last match, just in case there was some kind of glitch. Was using the AR as well.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 7971	Posted - 2013.09.03 23:04:00 - [27] - Quote Overall as for the aimbot thing, I seen some extraordinary bad aimbots before, if this is aimbotting I call it laughable excuse for one.
Jenza's Pants Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 117	Posted - 2013.09.03 23:09:00 - [28] - Quote aim-assist = ez mode. get the drop on kids, going 1vs1 and they get the kill on me bc they can track better than kbm . A little assist is fine, but doing all the work for you is not. Hell, I switched over to my ds3 for a bit to play and ran with an ADV SMG and was owning heavies at AR ranges.
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1266	Posted - 2013.09.03 23:12:00 - [29] - Quote another edit was made.
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1266	Posted - 2013.09.03 23:13:00 - [30] - Quote Jenza's Pants wrote: aim-assist = ez mode. get the drop on kids, going 1vs1 and they get the kill on me bc they can track better than kbm . A little assist is fine, but doing all the work for you is not. Hell, I switched over to my ds3 for a bit to play and ran with an ADV SMG and was owning heavies at AR ranges. Really a weapon that does lots of damage to armour killed the mostly armour using players? Who da thought ?



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