or whats left of it after this build or update.

What are you guys thoughts on the aim assist?
does it make the game worse in your opinion or better?

wouldnt mind letting CCP know where they stand on this update in a possitive note rather then QQ threads filling the front page.
I havent played yet because i am updating now as we speak but some feedback should make the devs see where they did good or wrong.
also i hope match making was fixed instead of ccp working on issues that didnt need fixing and leaving the main issues broken as usual.
js

While feedback can be helpful, it can also be misleading! For the most part change itself can cause an uproar, but at the same time persistent constructive uproar is usually a good indication. So while some things are very much known issues that are not working as intended, other things are more of a - well lets see how this really pans out before we knee-jerk and fix it. So please keep the feedback coming, be constructive and please know that you are being read. My eyes are not bleeding, (yet) I am here reading you! :)

While feedback can be helpful, it can also be misleading! For the most part change itself can cause an uproar, but at the same time persistent constructive uproar is usually a good indication. So while some things are very much known issues that are not working as intended, other things are more of a - well lets see how this really pans out before we knee-jerk and fix it. So please keep the feedback coming, be constructive and please know that you are being read. My eyes are not bleeding, (yet) I am here reading you! :)

ok so how noticable is the aimbot?
does it stay with the player without you having to use ur joystick or do u still have to move it while u shoot?
is it a call of duty aimbot or a mag quick aimbot?

While feedback can be helpful, it can also be misleading! For the most part change itself can cause an uproar, but at the same time persistent constructive uproar is usually a good indication. So while some things are very much known issues that are not working as intended, other things are more of a - well lets see how this really pans out before we knee-jerk and fix it. So please keep the feedback coming, be constructive and please know that you are being read. My eyes are not bleeding, (yet) I am here reading you! :)

ok so how noticable is the aimbot?

I can literally take my thumb off the analog stick and it sticks to the head with my laser rifle.

ok so basically its a over powered call of duty aim assist.
this is one issue we all need to point out to the devs by letting them know the lock on on the aim assist is to strong and needs to be tweaked this is one issue that will or can break the game.

While feedback can be helpful, it can also be misleading! For the most part change itself can cause an uproar, but at the same time persistent constructive uproar is usually a good indication. So while some things are very much known issues that are not working as intended, other things are more of a - well lets see how this really pans out before we knee-jerk and fix it. So please keep the feedback coming, be constructive and please know that you are being read. My eyes are not bleeding, (yet) I am here reading you! :)

See, all the hardcore fps ragin A-teamers are out in force complaint about two things: matchmaking and aim assist

What you don't seem to grok yet is that the two issues are inherently tied together and it's not aiming that was buffed or matchmaking broken; YOU have been nerfed

Now that I can effectively fire an AR in Dust I will be able to stand up against amped up fps super squads ( just look at the corps posting the loudest whines). This makes unbalanced matches less of an issue. This makes it less likely that I will afk vs RnD, Gunfall, TP squads.

You ***** when I use mass drivers, you ***** when CCP teaches me to aim....nothing but a cardboard Howard Sanchez effigee will please you?!

Screw that, you hardcore ADS genetically altered fps freak gangs....I got my OP aim assist and I am coming for you

How many times have you put the word constructive in a post today?

I can literally take my thumb off the analog stick and it sticks to the head with my laser rifle.

ok so basically its a over powered call of duty aim assist.
this is one issue we all need to point out to the devs by letting them know the lock on on the aim assist is to strong and needs to be tweaked this is one issue that will or can break the game.

Wait a second, Anon...didn't you just post a short time ago that you haven't even played 1.4 yet? And 2 pages into you own "balanced feedback" thread here you are declaring the update game breaking and in need of immediate roll back?

Hyperbole much?

what a load of bull. you suck and acknowledge it and defend an aimbot because otherwise you just suck too much?

i havnt played 1.4 yet but all this complaing makes me think its going to be bad...

any ways i think a gear restriction would have been better for match making...it basicly would have killed the proto pub stomps..

or whats left of it after this build or update.

What are you guys thoughts on the aim assist?
does it make the game worse in your opinion or better?

wouldnt mind letting CCP know where they stand on this update in a possitive note rather then QQ threads filling the front page.
I havent played yet because i am updating now as we speak but some feedback should make the devs see where they did good or wrong.
also i hope match making was fixed instead of ccp working on issues that didnt need fixing and leaving the main issues broken as usual.
js

Lol Lurch

You've been around Dust for quite a while I have played against you and your ilk for over a year bud. Are you here to judge me and my worth to this game? Are you going to decide now that if I don't shoot up to you standard that I shouldn't be allowed to play or even have a chance to enjoy myself playing?

That attitude is how elitists find themselves isolated from the greater population.

Careful where you tread, sir....not every path is safe to walk

It wouldn't stop advanced pub stomps.

careful where i tread? reread your post and tell me with a straight face that my response wasnt warranted. its the problem with people who arent as good as others that they feel entitled to have thing handed on a silver platter. either get better and enjoy the fruits of your hard work or accept the fact that you are not as good as others. I dont put effort into getting good with my aim so someone else can have a computer aiming for him. in other games it is called hacking/cheating.

LOL dont need aimbot to be good with laser. Laser rifle is the same as it was before, the new sight just makes it easier to us. However, the very heavy aim assist is EZ mode.

Your dead on Lurch, aim assists needs dulled down a little. It can't be left the way it is simply because some people can't aim for ****. I love using the laser rifle now but I would rather have to get better at using it than dealing with the way aim assist is currently.

While feedback can be helpful, it can also be misleading! For the most part change itself can cause an uproar, but at the same time persistent constructive uproar is usually a good indication. So while some things are very much known issues that are not working as intended, other things are more of a - well lets see how this really pans out before we knee-jerk and fix it. So please keep the feedback coming, be constructive and please know that you are being read. My eyes are not bleeding, (yet) I am here reading you! :)

here is the issue now.
we will have to probably wait till next update in about 6 months for them to fix this and yet again we will have to deal with this until the next screw up in 1.5
is this fair?

The new aim assists are supremely broken, as in too good. They really need to simply rollback the aiming to before uprising.

The Laser is back to its chromosome days....IT IS GLORIOUS!

Lol Lurch

You've been around Dust for quite a while I have played against you and your ilk for over a year bud. Are you here to judge me and my worth to this game? Are you going to decide now that if I don't shoot up to you standard that I shouldn't be allowed to play or even have a chance to enjoy myself playing?

That attitude is how elitists find themselves isolated from the greater population.

Careful where you tread, sir....not every path is safe to walk

Simmer down scrub, this aint no EVEtard PVE no need for tracking computers and game sim to do all the work for u, if its too tough for u to handle go join Machen Tosch and the rest of the lolcarebear reject brigade of EVE and go work the market, it may be more your pace.

See, all the hardcore fps ragin A-teamers are out in force complaint about two things: matchmaking and aim assist

What you don't seem to grok yet is that the two issues are inherently tied together and it's not aiming that was buffed or matchmaking broken; YOU have been nerfed

Now that I can effectively fire an AR in Dust I will be able to stand up against amped up fps super squads ( just look at the corps posting the loudest whines). This makes unbalanced matches less of an issue. This makes it less likely that I will afk vs RnD, Gunfall, TP squads.

You ***** when I use mass drivers, you ***** when CCP teaches me to aim....nothing but a cardboard Howard Sanchez effigee will please you?!

Screw that, you hardcore ADS genetically altered fps freak gangs....I got my OP aim assist and I am coming for you

While feedback can be helpful, it can also be misleading! For the most part change itself can cause an uproar, but at the same time persistent constructive uproar is usually a good indication. So while some things are very much known issues that are not working as intended, other things are more of a - well lets see how this really pans out before we knee-jerk and fix it. So please keep the feedback coming, be constructive and please know that you are being read. My eyes are not bleeding, (yet) I am here reading you! :)

I kind of knew I had crappy aim before, but I managed to do alright playing cautiously.

Today on the other hand, my aim doesn't seem much improved with aim assist on. Others however are chewing my shields/armor like never before.

I think I was in a match with you today. Just the two of us on one side and 8-10 on the other.
It was a little painful.
To the issues I've noticed:

Matchmaking seems... Off. See above. However, 1st day of patch, on a weekday, lot's of kids back
in school (US). I'll hold judgement for a week or two before I start complaining here.

Aim assist, didn't notice a difference with the HMG, Shotgun, Nova Knives. Perhaps a slight
stickiness on target with the AR but I tend to try and adjust manually so I may have been working
against the aim assist. Going to turn it back off next time I play.

Hit detection seems to have gotten worse for the shotgun. I snuck up on a sniper in Line Harvest,
put the barrel POINT BLANK to the back of the head and had to pull the trigger 3 times to kill a scout
suit. He stayed motionless for the first two shots... The HD for the HMG and AR seems about the
same. HD for the knives seems better.

Battle select is wierd... Maybe I just need to get used to it. I unchecked Ambush and got thrown
in an ambush. Perhaps an issue with some sort of matchmaking timeout or something.

Lasers seemed far more lethal for the first time since Chrome. Aim assist or a stealth buff?
Died alot more to scrambler rifles than usual. Not sure if aim assist is the culprit or matchmaking.

Imo aim assist is terrible, I thought this was a tracking shooter, theres not much tracking anymore its closer to blk ops now. It also penalizes those who are good and have skill in aiming and tracking bc now the noobs and everyone else with less playtime and practice have an easy kill button.

I personally hate it and believe that one of the things that made this game 1 of a kind is now ruined. *sigh*

I've always used a controller, aim assist isnt needed. Just takes practice and skill.

The Vets have played without it so long we got crazy good without it, SKILL somthing that no longer exists at the moment. I personally dont like it being this easy to aim.

I like NO aim assist fights, those I had to use skill to out shoot and out manuever 3 enemys coming at me to kill them, now...

The game aims for them and your just dead...

I vote Delete the aim assist for good.

Alright ANON, I have feed back for you, with 1.4 some one messed up bad.
The only good things are the active scanner and the lack of clutter on the HUD
Every thing else is broken:
The aim assist is a bit strong with certain weapons and almost nonexistent with others
Being able to choose one game mode and then being forced to play all of them is insulting
Full squads unable to deploy with no fix up to a week, even more insulting
More lag
New holes in the maps
New seams showing
Freeze ups are back
Broken match making
Broken map(s)
Now I am trying not to be upset but 1.4 is an EPIC FAIL, this feels like too many cooks spoiling the soup, aka too much patching of code from too many people in to many departments all in one update.

I want this game to be to a point where I can tell my friends that are hard core gamers that they can come play a game that is fun and not broken, 1.4 will not help word of mouth and with 1.5 changing vehicles so drastically, I still wont be telling any one of my friends about my shameful dust habit this year. On the 17th this game will lose players with money, on October 29th and November 5th you are losing dedicated FPS players with money and on November 15th we lose the people getting ps4's. This is a bad time to be dropping the ball and even a worse time to be letting down your loyal fan base

don't get me wrong I have mad respect for the devs on here and the people behind the scenes trying to make this game the best it can be

Good news everyone! A fix has been staged for deployment today that should fix issues with partly filled battles, abnormally long queues, not matching into selected game types and improve network latency. Fixes have also been staged for faction warfare battles putting you on the wrong side and connection errors. As always, we're still working on improving matchmaking, and we ask you to continue to give feedback once the fix is deployed.

remove aimbot, any serious game doesnt have it. If people suck with gamepads then they suck with game pads and shouldnt be given a helping hand.

The game is garbage with it.

or whats left of it after this build or update.

What are you guys thoughts on the aim assist?
does it make the game worse in your opinion or better?

wouldnt mind letting CCP know where they stand on this update in a possitive note rather then QQ threads filling the front page.
I havent played yet because i am updating now as we speak but some feedback should make the devs see where they did good or wrong.
also i hope match making was fixed instead of ccp working on issues that didnt need fixing and leaving the main issues broken as usual.
js

See, all the hardcore fps ragin A-teamers are out in force complaint about two things: matchmaking and aim assist

What you don't seem to grok yet is that the two issues are inherently tied together and it's not aiming that was buffed or matchmaking broken; YOU have been nerfed

Now that I can effectively fire an AR in Dust I will be able to stand up against amped up fps super squads ( just look at the corps posting the loudest whines). This makes unbalanced matches less of an issue. This makes it less likely that I will afk vs RnD, Gunfall, TP squads.

You ***** when I use mass drivers, you ***** when CCP teaches me to aim....nothing but a cardboard Howard Sanchez effigee will please you?!

Screw that, you hardcore ADS genetically altered fps freak gangs....I got my OP aim assist and I am coming for you

While feedback can be helpful, it can also be misleading! For the most part change itself can cause an uproar, but at the same time persistent constructive uproar is usually a good indication. So while some things are very much known issues that are not working as intended, other things are more of a - well lets see how this really pans out before we knee-jerk and fix it. So please keep the feedback coming, be constructive and please know that you are being read. My eyes are not bleeding, (yet) I am here reading you! :)

^ CCP promove this merc to Dev. He have the reason on his side.

I kind of like the new build.

Shotgun seems to suffer from major hit detection lag or shots doing erratic damage from 10% to ohk. Firing 4 shots point blank into someones head and no damage is a little depressing. Hmg is lovely so no qq on that.

I don't see the issue with aim assist. Everybody is in one of two scenarios:

1.) You're using a KB/M. Even with aim assist, KB/M is superior so you shouldn't have a problem killing someone who is using a DS3.

2.) You're using a DS3. You and your opponent have the added benefit of aim assist, in which case you're on a level playing field. So if you're better than them you should still win.

Aim assist is not as effective as everyone is making it seem. Let's not forget that KB/M also got a major buff today (and is still better than the DS3 even with aim assist).

While feedback can be helpful, it can also be misleading! For the most part change itself can cause an uproar, but at the same time persistent constructive uproar is usually a good indication. So while some things are very much known issues that are not working as intended, other things are more of a - well lets see how this really pans out before we knee-jerk and fix it. So please keep the feedback coming, be constructive and please know that you are being read. My eyes are not bleeding, (yet) I am here reading you! :)

or whats left of it after this build or update.

What are you guys thoughts on the aim assist?
does it make the game worse in your opinion or better?

wouldnt mind letting CCP know where they stand on this update in a possitive note rather then QQ threads filling the front page.
I havent played yet because i am updating now as we speak but some feedback should make the devs see where they did good or wrong.
also i hope match making was fixed instead of ccp working on issues that didnt need fixing and leaving the main issues broken as usual.
js

Imo, aim assist is needed to counter kb/m. It's the only way to have a decent chance of winning against people with kb/m at your same level.
There are three choices:
1. remove kb/m support
2. raise ds3 sensitivity dramatically
3. Leave aim assist as it is. It's not an aimbot ffs,you actually have to aim good in order to make aim assist work. What you guys complain is lag compensation (and yes, that's absolutely a good thing)

You want my opinion? .... We don't even know yet the impact that all this is going to have... it haven't been not even 24 hours since the Patch deployment, can we have this discussion a week from now ? once we have calm down, and seen how everything is working ?

A week, a month, a year... I don't need another day to watch how overly strong aim assist is right now. Explain to me how any amount of time will make a difference on this issue?? It's not going to magically tone itself down as everyone "gets used to it." Sorry, but have you watched CEOpyrex's youtube video of 1.4, maybe you should if you haven't, or how about just playing the game and once it locks on while ADS and it WILL follow them as long as you don't move the right joystick.

See, all the hardcore fps ragin A-teamers are out in force complaint about two things: matchmaking and aim assist

What you don't seem to grok yet is that the two issues are inherently tied together and it's not aiming that was buffed or matchmaking broken; YOU have been nerfed

Now that I can effectively fire an AR in Dust I will be able to stand up against amped up fps super squads ( just look at the corps posting the loudest whines). This makes unbalanced matches less of an issue. This makes it less likely that I will afk vs RnD, Gunfall, TP squads.

You ***** when I use mass drivers, you ***** when CCP teaches me to aim....nothing but a cardboard Howard Sanchez effigee will please you?!

Screw that, you hardcore ADS genetically altered fps freak gangs....I got my OP aim assist and I am coming for you

A view from a scout player by ceo Pyrex http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QI4wmuzjmU&feature=youtu.be&t=1m43s
Shows a fair bit wrong with scouts

See, all the hardcore fps ragin A-teamers are out in force complaint about two things: matchmaking and aim assist

What you don't seem to grok yet is that the two issues are inherently tied together and it's not aiming that was buffed or matchmaking broken; YOU have been nerfed

Now that I can effectively fire an AR in Dust I will be able to stand up against amped up fps super squads ( just look at the corps posting the loudest whines). This makes unbalanced matches less of an issue. This makes it less likely that I will afk vs RnD, Gunfall, TP squads.

You ***** when I use mass drivers, you ***** when CCP teaches me to aim....nothing but a cardboard Howard Sanchez effigee will please you?!

Screw that, you hardcore ADS genetically altered fps freak gangs....I got my OP aim assist and I am coming for you

lol

never seen someone praise aim assist as a good thing

lol @ CCP teachin u how to aim. are u being srs? gotta b trollin......

Alright, I'm tired of seeing this crap about aim assist not being too strong. QFT!!! Seriously if you can honestly say it doesn't make you shoot like you've won Top Shot then you're only saying this so it won't get changed and you go back to being mowed down by people with REAL gun game.

Currently there is little to no skill involved in shooting anyone, whether ADS or hip fire... FACT!
Basically one on one battles come down to a few factors, who deals more DPS, who has more HP, and last but certainly the most beneficial... who aims at who first..... FACT!
Once you've ADS at someone as long as you don't push joystick off of them it will continue to stay essentially "locked" on... FACT!
Speed tanking (mainly scouts), strafing, or generally any other viable use of skill or manoeuvre ability that previously was a great advantage has now been turned into utterly useless methods... FACT!

This is not just my opinion but the opinion of many others who DO NOT want this game turned into easy mode simply because some people can't aim or don't want to even try to get better. I would rather deal with KB/M users having an advantage than everyone having this aim assist do all the work for them.

A week, a month, a year... I don't need another day to watch how overly strong aim assist is right now. Explain to me how any amount of time will make a difference on this issue?? It's not going to magically tone itself down as everyone "gets used to it." Sorry, but have you watched CEOpyrex's youtube video of 1.4, maybe you should if you haven't, or how about just playing the game and once it locks on while ADS and it WILL follow them as long as you don't move the right joystick.

While feedback can be helpful, it can also be misleading! For the most part change itself can cause an uproar, but at the same time persistent constructive uproar is usually a good indication. So while some things are very much known issues that are not working as intended, other things are more of a - well lets see how this really pans out before we knee-jerk and fix it. So please keep the feedback coming, be constructive and please know that you are being read. My eyes are not bleeding, (yet) I am here reading you! :)

See, this post here makes me think of you as an overly entitled American 20 something.

It's really NOT all about You

Time spent playing with these new settings allows CCP to gather data
Now, don't get all TLDR on me, stealth...
Data helps serious people make serious decisions.

If CCP made decisions about how to design and implement change in game based solely on forum posts...what kind of game do you think we'd be playing?

I know I know, you think it would be great because YOU know exactly how CCP should make this game: your way

remove aimbot, any serious game doesnt have it. If people suck with gamepads then they suck with game pads and shouldnt be given a helping hand.

The game is garbage with it.

And finally, your whole statement is completely ignorant: every game HAS aim assist, every fps for the console for he last decade has had aim assist. If you sucked at the game pad for dust but were a beast in any other fps (i tear **** up in bf3/halo/mag/moh etc.) it probably means the game pad in place for dust sucked.

Wow, I make a post with my opinion that I think aim assist needs toned down a little (not turned off) and someone tries to tell me thier opinion and instantly criticises me about the fact I've already formed an opinion and they haven't gotten to play enough to decide so I must be wrong??
Whats wrong with you people? Seriously I stated what I believe needs changed just like many others have. Your free to make your own post with your opinion.... theres no reason for you to attack me in such a way because you disagree. Grow up.

While feedback can be helpful, it can also be misleading! For the most part change itself can cause an uproar, but at the same time persistent constructive uproar is usually a good indication. So while some things are very much known issues that are not working as intended, other things are more of a - well lets see how this really pans out before we knee-jerk and fix it. So please keep the feedback coming, be constructive and please know that you are being read. My eyes are not bleeding, (yet) I am here reading you! :)