Who ever said it was a close range weapon? People already use it like a shotgun in CQC. The Laser Rifle is a primary weapon and has a deadzone... Of like 30 meters. You're argument is invalid.

Designed to deliver damage at ANY RANGE in a wide splash radius

The Mass Driver is a semi-automatic, multi-shot grenade launcher useful as both a breaching tool and area denial weapon. Firing smart HIND explosive rounds, the weapon is highly effective against all forms of dropsuit and light vehicle, while its lightweight frame and compact design make it easy to wield in both urban and open terrain engagements.

slow down the rate of fire and you balance this weapon. a nice slow reload animation between each shot should do the trick!

The best sollution is to buff blubery intelligence not to nerf tge md.

Iv used tge mass driver for several builds and remember when they were feard then nerfed and now fixed again. Someone pointed out that the biggest complaint is they take no skill to aim(absolute nonsense) but what about swarms and av nades oh yea thats av not ai so its ok.

For cqc you really should try the breech models pow good dammage on direct hits really rewards skilld md users and the tighter splash really reduces your suicide chances. Iv lost count how many times iv blown myself up but hey if it denied a kill then more tge win for me.

The breach works well in cqc, you have to treat it like a slug firing shotgun, but personally I engage the majority of enemies at around 15m to alow me to escape!!

Comando with breech and assault varients fitted . Your welcome

I get more hatemail using my comand with md + any other wepon than I ever get when im tanking.

I can imagine, although I cant wait for gunships, then im gonna hang your tank out to dry!!

Keep the blast radius (obviously) but make the further splash damage like when the opponent just barely got into the splash less damage. But keep the main splash damage the same like when it's not a direct hit but just barely misses. Problem solved.

I look forward to you trying ehemm by trying I mean going down in a ball of flames did some one say anti air havs (it might have been a while a go)

It still hits it still does damage just not very much, you could use it in cqc but it is higjly inadvisable!! In the description of the md!!
[quote=description] Designed to deliver damage at ANY RANGE in a wide splash radius

That would be good.

In chromosome the regular mass drivers had a 4-5 round clip and a 6-8 round clip for the assault. This was the best way to balance them. people couldnt just spam them the way they do know.

My corp has 3 commandos and when the enemy is using nothing but MDs they switch to dual MDs and get hate mail. its stupid.

It would still be able to do direct damage at close range... A lot more than the LR as well.

I just feel the mass driver should take more skill at a closer range. Right now its just comically easy to use a close range. I want it to be a good weapon that can drop people, but at the very least, takes some skill to use.I would love to see it be more of a niche weapon that destroys in its niche, and not a weapon you can use for almost every occasion. IMO the only weapons that are easier/simpler than the MD are ARs, LLAVs and rooftop FGs.

Then the md is in the right place, other weapons need a buff, not nerfing the md, llavs are in the process of being nerfed, and rooftop forges are no worse that rooftop snipers, or rooftop tanks (ive seen that before)

I have been using my mass driver for months and I think this could work. Although, using the mass driver as long as I have I have learned the ways of the Freedom. And that has given me deadly precision .

I will be honest, I have a distaste for mass driver users (I'm not one...yet, that could change haha..) however I have noticed over the last couple of months a few mass driver guys being able to aim really well, even at distance. I have to pull even more range from them now to ensure a kill, however this isn't always possible.

I don't want it nerfed. I want it changed, an arming timer in exchange for something else, I don't know what though. Maybe a bigger clip would work? Idk, I just feel a semi auto grenade launcher shouldn't be the best weapon to use in CQC in any game.

I will be honest, I have a distaste for mass driver users (I'm not one...yet, that could change haha..) however I have noticed over the last couple of months a few mass driver guys being able to aim really well, even at distance. I have to pull even more range from them now to ensure a kill, however this isn't always possible.

As I've said before and will say again. As a proto masshole user I will be happy to see the MD removed from the game, CCP can even keep the SP invested as a punishment for spec'ing into a noob tube as a reminder.

Before people bleat and QQ, I was using the MD BEFORE is was FotM, so yes I know how to use it and very effectively. Why every FPS needs such a pathetic weapon is beyond me.

My counter for the MD is to bum-rush the idiot using it and smash him the face with the butt of my gun.

Great for you just because dont like doesnt mean its pathetic, thats your opinion your entitled to it, but based on my opinion I dont see why any game should use rifles, or snipers so on and so on!!

Its a weapon it has a role deal with it!!

Its a weapon it has a role deal with it!!

The "role" is area denial and crowd control, not CQC. I've already stated how I deal with it. I guess you are one of those unskilled masshole users that are hoping splash damage will get you a kill?

Please read the description, it says area denial and breaching tool, breaching implies short range, urbanised warfare, it a minmatar weapon, which is short to mid range, no its not designed for cqc, but the fact the shotgun is poor is not the mds fault or problem!

I deal with them in the exact same way! They cant stop me if I move fast enough, once everyone learns there own way to counter the ratio chasers will leave the weapon and find something else, there already moving back to assault rifles!!

Maybe the new aim assist will get everyone off the mass driver. I hope it does, for everyone's sake. I hate the AR a lot(wasted skill points if you ask me) but I would rather have everyone using ARs than the MD.