DUST Search - Announcement:Dev blog: No Fighting in the Lab Room: New Outpost Coming in Uprising 1.4

RydogV wrote:

Variety is the spice of the life...and the only type of triage that will revitalize the game at this point. The new installations look great and should make for some decent gameplay. Keep them coming...only faster.

I don't mean to seem ungrateful, but there needs to be a sense of urgency when it comes to new map creation until we have a solid stable of about 20 distinct maps to play on. That means the dev team should be churning out a new map every month for the next year. Otherwise, we are going to be facing even more attrition through boredom. Team Knee 101 has to expedite things and that means if they need more help, CCP should be hiring more people to keep the ball rolling.

Maps and modes, maps and modes, maps and modes...it can not be stressed enough.

You have shown progress in infantry mechanics and we should soon see revamped vehicle mechanics. Great!

Other resources should be working on the other variety aspects of new dropsuits/weapons/equipment. Get on it!!

Everything else should be focused on new maps and new game modes to compliment them. It has to happen. It has too. Forget improved integration with EVE right now. You already put the cart before the horse once and look where it got us. Grandiose ideas that look great on paper but function poorly when the basics, the fundamentals are not locked down first. Solid mechanics and significant variety are those fundamentals.

These are the things that will have players logging on and sticking around. Once you have that, then you can worry about the full New Eden experience. Maps and modes, maps and modes, maps and modes.

What are you standing around for? Get to work!

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RydogV Shadow Company HQ 278	Posted - 2013.09.01 14:57:00 - [61] - Quote Variety is the spice of the life...and the only type of triage that will revitalize the game at this point. The new installations look great and should make for some decent gameplay. Keep them coming...only faster. I don't mean to seem ungrateful, but there needs to be a sense of urgency when it comes to new map creation until we have a solid stable of about 20 distinct maps to play on. That means the dev team should be churning out a new map every month for the next year. Otherwise, we are going to be facing even more attrition through boredom. Team Knee 101 has to expedite things and that means if they need more help, CCP should be hiring more people to keep the ball rolling. Maps and modes, maps and modes, maps and modes...it can not be stressed enough. You have shown progress in infantry mechanics and we should soon see revamped vehicle mechanics. Great! Other resources should be working on the other variety aspects of new dropsuits/weapons/equipment. Get on it!! Everything else should be focused on new maps and new game modes to compliment them. It has to happen. It has too. Forget improved integration with EVE right now. You already put the cart before the horse once and look where it got us. Grandiose ideas that look great on paper but function poorly when the basics, the fundamentals are not locked down first. Solid mechanics and significant variety are those fundamentals. These are the things that will have players logging on and sticking around. Once you have that, then you can worry about the full New Eden experience. Maps and modes, maps and modes, maps and modes. What are you standing around for? Get to work!
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1071	Posted - 2013.09.01 15:02:00 - [62] - Quote I'm convinced this map was made with scouts in mind, seriously that beautiful map is scout heaven we will dominate here there's just so much going for us with this layout and with the scanning changes coming we will be ghost on the battlefield. RISE MY SCOUT BROTHERS AND GIVE THESE MEDIUM SUITS HELL
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 1083	Posted - 2013.09.01 15:11:00 - [63] - Quote RydogV wrote: Variety is the spice of the life...and the only type of triage that will revitalize the game at this point. The new installations look great and should make for some decent gameplay. Keep them coming...only faster. I don't mean to seem ungrateful, but there needs to be a sense of urgency when it comes to new map creation until we have a solid stable of about 20 distinct maps to play on. That means the dev team should be churning out a new map every month for the next year. Otherwise, we are going to be facing even more attrition through boredom. Team Knee 101 has to expedite things and that means if they need more help, CCP should be hiring more people to keep the ball rolling. Maps and modes, maps and modes, maps and modes...it can not be stressed enough. You have shown progress in infantry mechanics and we should soon see revamped vehicle mechanics. Great! Other resources should be working on the other variety aspects of new dropsuits/weapons/equipment. Get on it!! Everything else should be focused on new maps and new game modes to compliment them. It has to happen. It has too. Forget improved integration with EVE right now. You already put the cart before the horse once and look where it got us. Grandiose ideas that look great on paper but function poorly when the basics, the fundamentals are not locked down first. Solid mechanics and significant variety are those fundamentals. These are the things that will have players logging on and sticking around. Once you have that, then you can worry about the full New Eden experience. Maps and modes, maps and modes, maps and modes. What are you standing around for? Get to work! I agree with everything you say here but let me put a little perspective from my experience in software. Getting started is the hardest part. Workflow, a tool kit and team dynamics have to be built. They seem to have settled on a game design direction for providing terrain, battlegrounds and the stuff that gets plugged into it. The Caldari Production Facility and Minmatar Cargo Hub are both in active production right now so the pipeline is being fed and we should see the results rather soon. As their collection of model parts and racially oriented textures expands they'll be able to produce socket modules even quicker since they'll have a bigger box of Legos to play with. I can't wait to see what they have built for us a year from now when everything is working like a well-oiled machine and they have an even stronger foundation to build on. Great blog that provides insight into what we can expect in the future.
Shotty GoBang Intara Direct Action Caldari State 757	Posted - 2013.09.01 15:40:00 - [64] - Quote The artwork and level design in this game are absolutely amazing. Huge props to Logic Loop and the design team!
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1093	Posted - 2013.09.01 16:02:00 - [65] - Quote Great work! I can't wait to play. New maps for PC will be great
Nick nugg3t Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 37	Posted - 2013.09.01 16:07:00 - [66] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: I'm convinced this map was made with scouts in mind, seriously that beautiful map is scout heaven we will dominate here there's just so much going for us with this layout and with the scanning changes coming we will be ghost on the battlefield. RISE MY SCOUT BROTHERS AND GIVE THESE MEDIUM SUITS HELL Hold on while I go get my freedom mass driver
S Park Finner Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 225	Posted - 2013.09.01 21:40:00 - [67] - Quote I know other folks have said it but it's worth repeating... This is an outstanding dev blog. It shows how all the parts of the team contribute to the results It gives visibility into many of the considerations for each part of the design It shows how much work putting the level together is without burdening the description The graphics support the discussion and aren't empty It shows how the elements of the design play a part in the overall story for EVE and DUST 514 It tells how the structures in the level mean something and gives names to them so we can share in that It's well written and clear This blog and the design it describes set a high bar. That it exists at all is testimony to how hard the team is working to do a good job. If the game play on the level is even half as good as the level looks now it is a great addition to the game. Everyone involved should be proud of their work and the community should continue the support this thread has shown so far. We can see these folks are professional in their approach and care about what they produce. If game play shows some problems with the level I hope the community remains positive and helps the devs make the level better.

CCP LogicLoop C C P C C P Alliance 512	Posted - 2013.09.02 00:17:00 - [68] - Quote itsmellslikefish wrote: Team knee 101 haha, does this have anything to do with arrows, I wonder. Yes. We started as two teams. Team Arrow to the Knee and Team 101. We were merged into one team a few months ago and became Team Knee 101. Krom Ganesh wrote: Overall looks like an awesome map. The only concern I have is that the center square-ish area appears to be inaccessible from the ground which means it will be yet another place where people will use dropships to create a spawn hub. More whack-a-mole. The towers may also be exploitable, but it's hard to tell from the angles of them in the given images. (The multi-story plaza area on the left looks fun though) Edit: If the plaza area is at the same height or higher, it might be fine though. It is accessible from ground level. Well balanced. There is no line of site to objectives from the towers. Soraya Xel wrote: CCP LogicLoop remains the gold standard for dev blogs written by the DUST team. I appreciate the compliment. However, half of this was written by our environment lead who is on Team Knee 101 as well. Once our two works were finished, we handed them off to LogiBro who I helped to arrange the order of our process.

NoxMort3m D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 59	Posted - 2013.09.02 06:36:00 - [69] - Quote love the interiors
Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 693	Posted - 2013.09.03 01:46:00 - [70] - Quote looks awesome!

Robert JD Niewiadomski NULLIMPEX INC 462	Posted - 2013.09.03 13:21:00 - [71] - Quote Any ETA on posting new Outpost map in Outpost Feedback subforum? Any chance to have cross-section/interior area map for all outposts beside birds-eye view map?
Fire9er Greko Mango and Friends 1	Posted - 2013.09.03 13:32:00 - [72] - Quote CCP throw yourselves a party you on a job well done but sqd bugs may be a future complaint. Had to log out and back in to cancel a bugged squad.
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 408	Posted - 2013.09.03 17:33:00 - [73] - Quote CCP, excellent dev blog write up and visuals! I have played this new map in two games this morning and I have to say that I enjoy it A LOT! It is very detailed, there are a lot of interesting pathways, hiding spots and areas which are elevated and accessible without resorting to using a drop ship. This map presents a variety of options to the player in terms of tactical play style and fun! Nice!
Void Moose SlaughterMoose 0	Posted - 2013.09.03 23:40:00 - [74] - Quote This looks great should be a fun map to fight on
jamstar saa187 Imperial Populicide Legion Alpha Wolf Pack 49	Posted - 2013.09.04 14:46:00 - [75] - Quote i only got in one match last night b4 the unexpected downtime. fortunately it was on this new level, and IMHO it is BEAUTIFUL. its large enough and spread out enough to give a number of possibilities. thumbs up to this one.


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