Whine more. Wolfman already said he does not care.

Meanwhile, enjoy my squad of 6 boundless spammers.

My god, the horror!

The blast radius on them is BROKEN. I had someone blow me up from full health and even though i went across a building to avoid it they were spamming hits on one area that displayed just how bloody far the blast goes... it's messed up. FYI, I spent a few minutes after i died figuring out where he was and how the heck he managed to get me once i figured it out and watched him spam an area trying to kill me again. The radius is wider then a tank! Yes, the radius, not diameter! Good luck avoiding that ****.

okie doke.... as a general rule im usually pretty ho hum about the methods of death in dust .

snipers always getting creamed by those guys but meh it is a valid class so i just deal.

run me over 20 times in a match all is well.... but man theese fooking mass drivers are getting out of hand!!!

am i butthurt? umadbro? yes i am not ashamed to admit it..... when the majority of opposite team is using those things

the outcome of the matches always favor the md users ALWAYS . i used a mass driver once in beta they sucked so hardecore.

now i do not know the updates to massdrivers since and i also understand people invest lots of sp to use them effectively.

but man oh man what did they do to those things...... not everyone of course uses them but now moreso than ever.

i really am fine with most other ways of eating high speed dirt..... but you lock a match full of md users. game over

it's like having a can of SPAM with no fooking crackers..... if you get my meaning. save all of your retarted forrest gumpish comments.

you md guys will be the 1st ones naturally by default.


i will say it if others are scared...... and i do this hardly never.....

but i am sorry CCP mass drivers need to be looked at..... not saying they are OP.... but in the words of si robertson from duck dynasty.... something just aint right JACK!!!!!!

It's Assault Rifle 514 or Whine Alot 514.

Honestly the radius is too big, that need no skill to hit an ennemy with the MD, the rest the weapon us fine but the radius need to be nerfed

Honestly the radius is too big, that need no skill to hit an ennemy with the MD, the rest the weapon us fine but the radius need to be nerfed

The radius is the entire point of the weapon, how small would you make it exactly it's already been nerfed once, and then buffed back up cause it wasn't enough!!

My god, the horror!

THen they discovered there was a hit detection error and have since fixed that....the radius and ammo count was originally buffed because they didnt realize there was a hit detection error with explosives..so now it got the buff to make up for the detection issues and the detection issues have been mostly resolved (I say mostly because I find it hard to believe they are completely resolved when CCP is the dev).

The best way to do is like wolfman said, waiting to see the new hit detection before making a change to see how new hit detection can impact in the game after this they can adjust MD radius to a logical way

AR and MD users smashing each other on the head
and I'm just sitting here hugging my HMG

I am fine with them waiting for the new hit detection for weaponry other than explosives to be implemented before nerfs are done. But the point is that its needs to be watched. I wouldnt be surprised if CCP broke the normal hit detection even more in their process of making explosive hit detection work properly.

They will nerf it calm down

Well yea the radius for a proto assault MD is 8.25. Which means the diameter is 16.5.....but according to the MD scrubs on the forums...its balanced perfectly because you know you cant be required to actually aim to hit someone..

I have some faith that CCP will use the data to balance the MD.

It's a situational weapon, and sometimes the situation really favors lots of MD's. I'm sure there are other situations where a squad of MD's would be a poor choice, such as attacking uphill. I wouldn't give that squad much of a chance to capture Objective A on Manus Peak. A couple AR's on the objective would mow them down before they got close.

MD's are the shark attacks of DUST. You may be mowed down time and time again by AR's and snipers and you shrug your shoulders and forget about it, but the one time you are pounded to next week by a bunch of MD's you remember it.

Blast radius is too large

The damage is fine, the clip size is fine, the range is fine, in my opinion curently only the radius is a problem since you cant miss a shot even if you are bad with it, that make the MD a noobtool currently, with a nerf on the splash, only who are good with the MD still continue to use it has intended

I'm hearing, "I came up against a well coordinated squad and got owned."

Yeah, that happens and I feel for you. Just don't blame the weapon, blame teamwork. We need to get that nerfed apparently.

As someone else mentioned, there's also the 5% per level blast radius increase from the skill, just in case you had a hard time hitting with that kind of radius....

I rarely even see MDs anymore

Righto chap.... it's not teamwork......

it is everyone using a broken.... OP weapon with an ungodly blast radius... not complaining about damage here.

talking about blast radius... its total faceroll.... squad up! all use md's..... spam your arse off rooftops moar betta hint hint... and everyone knows this to be the case. being the reason everyone is doing it..

teamwork hah...

So instead of just crying for a nerf like a two year old, provide a figure, see what people say give reasons, both for and against!
I mean have you ever considered the point of aoe weapon is to get you to RUN AWAY? You cant miss if your enemy is closer than 20m, but once again I must point out that this is the md ideal range, where its designed to be used.

OK so I have to start off with a question. Does the damage for the blast radius apply equally at all points within the radius? Because I think it would be alright if it tapered off quickly as you move away from the impact point. This would make physical sense as well. If you think about the weapon, I assume the shrapnel does most of the damage. As you move further from the source, the mass of shrapnel over a given area (your mercs body) decreases exponentially. In other words, if you get hit by the blast radius at say 5m from the impact zone, it should do only a fraction of the blast radius damage. Or is this too complex for CCP?

Monkey mac is obvious MD spammer..... i haz damaged hi fragile epeen.

fix the freaking blast radius CCP... the game is just becoming a joke......

just rename the game to " what broken and op weapon or bug is everyone using this week to win 514"

So instead of just crying for a nerf like a two year old, provide a figure, see what people say give reasons, both for and against!
I mean have you ever considered the point of aoe weapon is to get you to RUN AWAY? You cant miss if your enemy is closer than 20m, but once again I must point out that this is the md ideal range, where its designed to be used.

Not my intention to insult you but im a MD user since close beta, the MD was underpower sometimes true, in chrome MD haved good radius and good damage due to the fact other weapon haved the possibility to shoot 40% more far than now, so in uprising they nerfed the damage and splash for this, that was suppose to be fine but the gun haved hit detection issue they fixed it but they added splash radius in this same time, the splash buff was unnecessery because they fixed the hit detection, now they have to do a nerf on the radius to be fair

EDIT: hope they bring back the smoke effect that was a usefull tactic

Its CCP Don't Give A Fucks 514.

F2P Broke LOL Lobby Shooter.

Working as intended.

Heh heh im not saying it shouldn't but someone has to defend the weapon, besides im sure there are plenty of things that could be done with out an full blown nerf, such as larger feedback radius, even slower travel, proper fall off profile, etc etc.

Just so many people complaining with out giving proper argumemts gets on my nerves!!

1 Mass driver on the other team? OMG MASS DRIVER 514!!!!!!!111111


TEARS

LOL U serious????

iv'e not been in a match for 2 weeks now easy where there was only "ONE" mass driver on the other team.


lol " Please sir step away from the bong"

Please sir actually read logical arguments, and reply to them logically not with insults!! Refer to the large post I gave on pg 2-3 forreference!!

agreed...... i dropped a low blow in on that one. and i do apologize for the bong comment.

but his statement was so far from the truth. i could not resist.

Fine ill let it slide, so if you were to drop the radius what to?

Fine ill let it slide, so if you were to drop the radius what to?

mass drivers are grenade launchers, should they do the same damage as a grenade each shot? no (wish they would lol). so dont complain, plus most people use ARs, each weapon is unique instead of having just a variety of ARs (which is part of what makes this game good, its uniqueness). i honestly find the mass drivers are fine as they are, just depends on how you use it. please dont cry everytime you get killed by a weapon. as long as they dont ruin the game the weapons are fine.

This is what I have been saying....heck if nothing else remove the bonus increase you get with when skilling into MD and make it something else...like ability to carry additional rounds. So like 5% increase to max ammo carried per lvl.


Oh and Skihids.......6 ppl spamming proto assault MDs is not called teamwork or a "squad working together" its called 6 ppl who are using the current weapon that CCP has broken.

I really don't see MD's in matches too often, and it's even more rare I get killed by one.

The ratio of getting killed by a MD vs killed by an AR is probably 10:1 in favor of the AR. The thing is, people generally don't complain about getting killed by the same weapon they use, and since most run around with AR's they don't realize that it kills them more frequently than any other weapon.

Pretty unique thread title, you're a witty one!