I think with the aiming updates in 1.4 we are going to see massholes getting dropped a lot faster. We need to see the full impact of these changes before we make any nerfs/buffs.

Hahaha youve gotta see this ****

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=105769

The exact same topic post but about ARs, locked for ranting about 30 seconds in.

I love CCP sometimes. This time I dont.

Let me quote this little gem:

I think with the aiming updates in 1.4 we are going to see massholes getting dropped a lot faster. We need to see the full impact of these changes before we make any nerfs/buffs.

That's such bull ****. Don't say anything about Caldari assault, you might get IP banned for it.

This is what I keep telling people. Once aiming is fixed, the assault rifles will be king again. I use a mass driver now because its the only thing I can do damage with. If I was able to aim properly, I'd probably use my scrambler rifle instead and rip shields off all of the Caldari Logis...

Heavy complaining about MDs

It's a grenade launcher, no one likes grenade launchers in FPSs.

Just got 2 topics locked in a row for pointing out that this **** doesnt fly.
2nd time it was due to "discussing moderation action".
Because surely my point was that the AR thread was locked, and TOTALLY NOT because this thread wasnt.

Same goes for the FG that at 1m distance I get instakilled and the damn guy walks away safely. You just shot a heavy energetic round at your feet and you aren't hurt?

I'm already saving up SP to spec into Caldari assault with an AR. That seems to be the only way they want us to play.

FG splash is very tight, killing with a FG in CQC is fairly hard. You'd have to give them more splash which is certainly the wrong direction.

This is how you go againts a MD and succeed:

- Take out SMG
- Ram (get on point blank distance) the offender with your spray-and-pray bullets of death.
- ???

= Profit.

MDs can barely defend themselves point blank and for the most part they'll either end up killing themselves or damage themselves. Either way it works 90% of the time.

MDs are fine, unless someone is camping on a roof with one. That's when I just leave the game.
Let them kill someone else, isn't going to be me.

I wonder, would people be more annoyed at Mass Driver users if they also used Kin Cats?
Wondering what to spec into on my alt, I'm not that good but if I run fast perhaps that will bring the QQ
to the table where I shall devour it.

"whatever I see, I devour, snarrffhfhrfh".

I beat Mas driver users with my Six kin SMG.
I dont find them OP.
They sure ''FEEL'' OP when you are getting shot by full squad and when you are about to get away the blast radius of the MD gets you. BUT thats team work, not the MD 1 on 1....

MD are fine.

''Save your typing fanboys. I will not read your responses. Especially since you all probably use MD's, Militia ones at that.''

There are no militia Mass drivers >..>

So sick of these ******* mass drivers.

Most of my people have left the corp due to this. You fixed the failock, and miraculously everyone stopped using them. Now it seems that the lame weapon of choice is MD's.

If these aren't fixed on the next update I'm out.

Not that you give a ****, but just in case.

Off topic but, any idea when Plasma Cannon re-balancing is going to come in?

Yes,. this needs to be looked at. Considering that it's a chore to use, aim, and kill with; it's only got one round per shot; the aiming mechanics on it are questionable; etc. This really ought to operate like a rocket launcher, considering all the drawbacks it has.

but somehow it kills over every other weapon. Funny how that works

Direct dum fire would make more sense, but consider if you upped the splash damge to much wouldn't be a littke op??

We didn't have any plans to, I'll file that thought away in the possible nerfs draw until we see the impact of 1.4.

Save your typing fanboys. I will not read your responses. Especially since you all probably use MD's, Militia ones at that.

I was playing this game for the first time in a week.

Within a minute I was reminded of why It seems like a chore, than a game.

MD's

It takes too long to level up to get the duvolle, Brand new players to the game probably see this same **** and move on. I cant tell you how many people I have talked into this game that have left.

Look at the server numbers people. They don' seem to be going up do they?

Lets keep it real. When the 17th gets here, its going to be REAL hard to load up dust.

I keep playing this game for what is supposed to become, not for what it is. I know several people who feel the same way.

Maybe Ill just come back in a year or so and drop millions of free sp and see whats up then.

Anyway I realize now this should have gone in the feedback section. It probably would be passed over either way.

Yeah..... what he says would make sense if you took a firing row of mercs each with a different weapon and had them shoot at one stationary target starting at the same time. Sure..... But if you add strafing its a bit different. Unless your a mass driver because splash damage doesn't care much about strafing.

So sure, shot for shot, RoF for RoF, the mass driver might "technically" take the longest, but it has by far the most consistent "kill time" out of all the other weapons and that is because it requires minimal aim to make it do damage. Honestly.... in my opinion. Mass drivers should be all about area suppression. Faster rate of fire, bigger splash radius, But MUCH lower damage. As it stands right now, it only takes about five mass driver rounds to kill my proto logistics suit, and sure that might be "a lot" to some people, but when you think about it..... shooting five rounds into the ground really isn't that difficult.