DUST Search - STAR WARS VS STAR TREK

Lucrezia LeGrand wrote:

I love Empire Strikes Back, and the new star wars comics with Leia as the main character... but oh man: The first part of the 2009 Star Trek movie just has so many feels. I get all teary eyed when I see Cap. Kirk's dad die. *sob sob*

In regards to lightspeed in the star wars universe, Han Solo mentions that the Millenium Falcon can make .5 past lightspeed... but nothing can go faster than lightspeed. But what is Hyperspace? It's not normal space. So I always figured that as a ship accelerates towards lightspeed the hyperdrive engine kicks in and the ships jump into some kind of slipstream where it can travel to a location faster than lightspeed (like a wormhole). So when han says his ship is .5 past lightspeed I assume he means that traveling through hyperspace he can arrive at a location faster than if he was traveling lightspeed in normal space. Also, because he's not actually going lightspeed, I assume that's why there's no time dilation. Also, the reason why he doesn't take years and years to get from one solar system to another is because approaching lightspeed your speed increases exponentially and I'm going to say just .5 is crazy, hella, faster than lightspeed.
I'm a nerd. I think too much about these things.

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Jetti Daxcide Mechanised Enterprise Of War 9	Posted - 2013.08.29 19:57:00 - [1] - Quote pick your side and a little reason why, i'll start: SW for me it has much more tech, ships and such a rich EU trek is just a bunch of people just stood in a room pretending they are on a ship
Coleman Gray GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 617	Posted - 2013.08.29 20:04:00 - [2] - Quote I like star wars because the original movies had the empire resembling America, A bunch of white guys who can't hit the roadside of a barn yet have managed to amass alot of wealth and "territory" through war, Currently led by a black man who has fans all across the world, and When it came to fighting tiny men in a jungle they got their arses handed to them (wonder if I'll get banned for this, hmmm)
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 7891	Posted - 2013.08.29 21:00:00 - [3] - Quote Star Trek Deflector Dish can stop a planet destroying laser.
XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 236	Posted - 2013.08.29 21:43:00 - [4] - Quote Each has its ups and downs, Trek has fewer plot holes and they solve stuff with their minds. Star wars has more space battles, but has so many plot holes that it can't hold anything. It also has the best books and games (SW battlefront FTW!). If anyone is interested I recommend Timothy Zahnn's books. I have to go with star wars, I love me some space battles.
BARDAS DUST University Ivy League 379	Posted - 2013.08.29 21:46:00 - [5] - Quote Oh dear god its the thread of nerd rage doom visiting another forum I personally like Star Wars lore better, however, the ships from Star Trek are better IMO. I like both really. Now inb4NerdRage.
Thanatos 716 Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 99	Posted - 2013.08.29 22:51:00 - [6] - Quote EVE...
Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 674	Posted - 2013.08.29 22:54:00 - [7] - Quote I like them both because both are good
Meeko Fent Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 730	Posted - 2013.08.29 23:33:00 - [8] - Quote Star Trek. I find that its easier to say "I watch some Star Trek", and watch a few one hour shows then Say "I'll Watch Star Wars" and sit through a 2 Hour Movie. Speaking of Star Trek, I could probably See if BBC is airing reruns of TNG. I'm over here in 'Murica, so they just trash the records of old shows when new "Good" Shows come out. However, if you let me throw Firefly into this, I will go Firefly all the way. "We may experience so turbulence, and then.. Explode."
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 1617	Posted - 2013.08.29 23:34:00 - [9] - Quote Star Wars > Star Trek
CLONE117 Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 239	Posted - 2013.08.29 23:36:00 - [10] - Quote star wars is still great but im only worried about its future currently..

TEBOW BAGGINS The Corporate Raiders 940	Posted - 2013.08.30 00:56:00 - [11] - Quote i played too much star wars galaxies which ruined star wars for me i thought we were supposed to get a star wars TV show about smugglers by now
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. 23	Posted - 2013.08.30 03:31:00 - [12] - Quote Mass Effect.
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona Top Men. 97	Posted - 2013.08.30 03:36:00 - [13] - Quote Iron sky
Jetti Daxcide Mechanised Enterprise Of War 9	Posted - 2013.09.04 06:08:00 - [14] - Quote XANDER KAG wrote: Each has its ups and downs, Trek has fewer plot holes and they solve stuff with their minds. Star wars has more space battles, but has so many plot holes that it can't hold anything. It also has the best books and games (SW battlefront FTW!). If anyone is interested I recommend Timothy Zahnn's books. I have to go with star wars, I love me some space battles. i loved heir to the empire XD
virgindestroyer7 Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 112	Posted - 2013.09.04 07:21:00 - [15] - Quote i swear if disney turns star wars into a musical i will be very angry i like the revival of star trek lately. but nothing beats late night TNG sessions. also.. dem orion slave girls FTW. still, SW > ST
AlleyKatPr0 Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 40	Posted - 2013.09.04 11:43:00 - [16] - Quote Star Trek is a sci-fi universe with characters in it. Star Wars is characters in a sci-fi universe. There is a very deep technical/statistical basis in Star Trek, where as Star Wars is about hand waving everything. The only time I can recall anything genuinely technical being mentioned as a plot point in Star Wars is when Han Solo states the time it takes the Millennium Falcon to complete the Kessel Run is less than 12 parsecs. Although widely disputed as being an inaccurate description of speed, it is actually in direct reference to the distance required to travel a set route. In other words, the reason why the Millennium Falcon is fast is because it has an advanced navigation computer able to plot routes which are shorter than other ships, thus it is faster than anything else. If Han has expanded on this point and explained the Kessel Run is normally an 18 parsec route, this might have saved nearly 30 years of arguing amongst nerds. Other than this, no mention is made regarding gravity, inertia or any other of the time dilation issues proposed by Einstein and supported by most regarding relativity. When Han wants to go somewhere, he just says 'punch it, Chewie', and physics be dammed. You might as well compare math with art.
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona Top Men. 101	Posted - 2013.09.04 18:20:00 - [17] - Quote Remember all star trek is in the future and star wars is in the past (A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away )
Meeko Fent Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 813	Posted - 2013.09.06 00:37:00 - [18] - Quote To hell with you all. BROWNCOATS UNITE!
2-Ton Twenty-One Ancient Exiles 893	Posted - 2013.09.06 01:29:00 - [19] - Quote NNNEEEEEERRRRRRRRDDDDSSSSSSS!!! :P
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles 1073	Posted - 2013.09.06 07:09:00 - [20] - Quote SW>ST Truth

Callsign Grave Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2013.09.06 14:11:00 - [21] - Quote Grand Admiral Thrawn, need I say more?
Athene Alland Red Fox Brigade 110	Posted - 2013.09.06 21:17:00 - [22] - Quote This has happened before, and will happen again.... -'Ad Mortis Nos Tripudio'-
Lucrezia LeGrand Delta Enterprise 56	Posted - 2013.09.07 19:01:00 - [23] - Quote I love Empire Strikes Back, and the new star wars comics with Leia as the main character... but oh man: The first part of the 2009 Star Trek movie just has so many feels. I get all teary eyed when I see Cap. Kirk's dad die. sob sob In regards to lightspeed in the star wars universe, Han Solo mentions that the Millenium Falcon can make .5 past lightspeed... but nothing can go faster than lightspeed. But what is Hyperspace? It's not normal space. So I always figured that as a ship accelerates towards lightspeed the hyperdrive engine kicks in and the ships jump into some kind of slipstream where it can travel to a location faster than lightspeed (like a wormhole). So when han says his ship is .5 past lightspeed I assume he means that traveling through hyperspace he can arrive at a location faster than if he was traveling lightspeed in normal space. Also, because he's not actually going lightspeed, I assume that's why there's no time dilation. Also, the reason why he doesn't take years and years to get from one solar system to another is because approaching lightspeed your speed increases exponentially and I'm going to say just .5 is crazy, hella, faster than lightspeed. I'm a nerd. I think too much about these things.
AlleyKatPr0 Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 41	Posted - 2013.09.07 22:33:00 - [24] - Quote Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: I love Empire Strikes Back, and the new star wars comics with Leia as the main character... but oh man: The first part of the 2009 Star Trek movie just has so many feels. I get all teary eyed when I see Cap. Kirk's dad die. sob sob In regards to lightspeed in the star wars universe, Han Solo mentions that the Millenium Falcon can make .5 past lightspeed... but nothing can go faster than lightspeed. But what is Hyperspace? It's not normal space. So I always figured that as a ship accelerates towards lightspeed the hyperdrive engine kicks in and the ships jump into some kind of slipstream where it can travel to a location faster than lightspeed (like a wormhole). So when han says his ship is .5 past lightspeed I assume he means that traveling through hyperspace he can arrive at a location faster than if he was traveling lightspeed in normal space. Also, because he's not actually going lightspeed, I assume that's why there's no time dilation. Also, the reason why he doesn't take years and years to get from one solar system to another is because approaching lightspeed your speed increases exponentially and I'm going to say just .5 is crazy, hella, faster than lightspeed. I'm a nerd. I think too much about these things. They used hyperdrive and entered hyperspace, breaking the light speed relative barrier. I stress relative, as the speed in which a ship can travel when in hyperspace can be many thousands of times the speed of light in relation to normal space, even though the speed gauge will show .5 past light speed. As I said on the first page, speed of travel in the Star Wars universe is really measured by the distance it takes to traverse in hyperspace.
pierce Hawkeye BurgezzE.T.F 106	Posted - 2013.09.07 22:49:00 - [25] - Quote Star wars, because star trek has a stunning lack of stormtroopers
Jathniel G I A N T EoN. 860	Posted - 2013.09.08 01:29:00 - [26] - Quote I like both, but I like Star Trek more. Of pretty much all modern sci-fi shows, it's the only one that shows Earth to have a bright future. I like Star Wars too, but I don't identify with ANY of the characters. But Star Trek talks about places like Michigan, San Fransciso, Chicago... and despite all the amazing lore, it still finds a way to bring you home. A good example is Star Trek First Contact, when Lily asks Picard if he ever gets home much. He said, "I tend to think of this ship (the Enterprise) as home, but if it's Earth you mean, I try to get back whenever I can." I like that sentiment. I like that Earth has value to the human race in Star Trek, and that humans aspire to their better angels more in that franchise, than in any other. SW = Action ST = Ideals That's actually the only thing I do not like about EVE... It starts off with Earth, but you end up too far away in principle. I would love to know what happened to Earth in EVE. Humanity isn't going to disappear on either side of the EVE gate, just because the gate closes. If humanity on Earth survived, it would be far more technologically advanced than any of the major powers in EVE. Perhaps being on par with or greater than the Jovians. In EVE, I'd like to see us be able to go home one day.
Otavio Martins The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 181	Posted - 2013.09.08 04:35:00 - [27] - Quote i wrote a thread like this before, its easy, the answer is : Star Wars > Star Trek space battles, lightsaber duels, games, Darth Vader (spoiler alert: aka Anakin Skywalker), a lot of history with a lot of wars, and it came before star trek.
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 316	Posted - 2013.09.08 13:37:00 - [28] - Quote My Little Pony Friendship is Magic > star wars > star trek
AlleyKatPr0 Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 42	Posted - 2013.09.08 18:25:00 - [29] - Quote Jathniel wrote: That's actually the only thing I do not like about EVE... It starts off with Earth, but you end up too far away in principle. I would love to know what happened to Earth in EVE. Humanity isn't going to disappear on either side of the EVE gate, just because the gate closes. If humanity on Earth survived, it would be far more technologically advanced than any of the major powers in EVE. Perhaps being on par with or greater than the Jovians. In EVE, I'd like to see us be able to go home one day. The terrans had perfected genetic engineering and are immortal super humans, who consider eve folk as inferior and sent out ships to find these ' lower life forms ' The Jovians met the terrans when a single Terran ship found the Jovians centuries before the other nations were space faring. The terrans gave the Jovians enough tech to allow them the ability to rise above the other nations and control their destiny. Due to the incredible distance involved, the terrans would not be able to return for many thousands of years, and when they do, they will eradicate or enslave the eve populous. Essentially, the Jovians were given a choice: take tech and control the other nations or die. The Jovians chose the former, but, had secretly planned to do whatever they could to prevent this eradication or subjugation. This is why Jovians began messing with genetic engineering to hopefully enhance themselves. They failed and their second plan was to develop pod technology. Thought this was common knowledge?
XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 251	Posted - 2013.09.08 20:06:00 - [30] - Quote It might would be, if that fit into the lore at all. The lore truth is that we are all descendants from earth, however almost no one knows this and anyone who goes public with it is considered a looney. Otherwise we know nothing about what happened to human society on the other side of the gate. The Jovians just happened to recover first.



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