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Jetti Daxcide
Mechanised Enterprise Of War
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Posted - 2013.08.29 19:57:00 -
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pick your side and a little reason why, i'll start:
SW for me it has much more tech, ships and such a rich EU
trek is just a bunch of people just stood in a room pretending they are on a ship |
Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.29 20:04:00 -
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I like star wars because the original movies had the empire resembling America, A bunch of white guys who can't hit the roadside of a barn yet have managed to amass alot of wealth and "territory" through war, Currently led by a black man who has fans all across the world, and When it came to fighting tiny men in a jungle they got their arses handed to them
(wonder if I'll get banned for this, hmmm) |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.08.29 21:00:00 -
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Star Trek Deflector Dish can stop a planet destroying laser. |
XANDER KAG
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.29 21:43:00 -
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Each has its ups and downs, Trek has fewer plot holes and they solve stuff with their minds.
Star wars has more space battles, but has so many plot holes that it can't hold anything. It also has the best books and games (SW battlefront FTW!). If anyone is interested I recommend Timothy Zahnn's books.
I have to go with star wars, I love me some space battles. |
BARDAS
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.08.29 21:46:00 -
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Oh dear god its the thread of nerd rage doom visiting another forum 
I personally like Star Wars lore better, however, the ships from Star Trek are better IMO. I like both really. Now inb4NerdRage. |
Thanatos 716
Isuuaya Tactical
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.29 22:51:00 -
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EVE... |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.08.29 22:54:00 -
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I like them both
because both are good |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.29 23:33:00 -
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Star Trek.
I find that its easier to say "I watch some Star Trek", and watch a few one hour shows then Say "I'll Watch Star Wars" and sit through a 2 Hour Movie.
Speaking of Star Trek, I could probably See if BBC is airing reruns of TNG.
I'm over here in 'Murica, so they just trash the records of old shows when new "Good" Shows come out.
However, if you let me throw Firefly into this, I will go Firefly all the way.
"We may experience so turbulence, and then.. Explode." |
Kane Fyea
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.08.29 23:34:00 -
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Star Wars > Star Trek |
CLONE117
Planetary Response Organization
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.08.29 23:36:00 -
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star wars is still great but im only worried about its future currently..
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TEBOW BAGGINS
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2013.08.30 00:56:00 -
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i played too much star wars galaxies which ruined star wars for me
i thought we were supposed to get a star wars TV show about smugglers by now |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
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Posted - 2013.08.30 03:31:00 -
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Mass Effect. |
Sergamon Draco
Rautaleijona
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.08.30 03:36:00 -
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Iron sky |
Jetti Daxcide
Mechanised Enterprise Of War
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:08:00 -
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XANDER KAG wrote:Each has its ups and downs, Trek has fewer plot holes and they solve stuff with their minds.
Star wars has more space battles, but has so many plot holes that it can't hold anything. It also has the best books and games (SW battlefront FTW!). If anyone is interested I recommend Timothy Zahnn's books.
I have to go with star wars, I love me some space battles.
i loved heir to the empire XD |
virgindestroyer7
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.04 07:21:00 -
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i swear if disney turns star wars into a musical i will be very angry 
i like the revival of star trek lately. but nothing beats late night TNG sessions.
also.. dem orion slave girls FTW.
still, SW > ST |
AlleyKatPr0
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.04 11:43:00 -
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Star Trek is a sci-fi universe with characters in it.
Star Wars is characters in a sci-fi universe.
There is a very deep technical/statistical basis in Star Trek, where as Star Wars is about hand waving everything.
The only time I can recall anything genuinely technical being mentioned as a plot point in Star Wars is when Han Solo states the time it takes the Millennium Falcon to complete the Kessel Run is less than 12 parsecs.
Although widely disputed as being an inaccurate description of speed, it is actually in direct reference to the distance required to travel a set route. In other words, the reason why the Millennium Falcon is fast is because it has an advanced navigation computer able to plot routes which are shorter than other ships, thus it is faster than anything else. If Han has expanded on this point and explained the Kessel Run is normally an 18 parsec route, this might have saved nearly 30 years of arguing amongst nerds.
Other than this, no mention is made regarding gravity, inertia or any other of the time dilation issues proposed by Einstein and supported by most regarding relativity.
When Han wants to go somewhere, he just says 'punch it, Chewie', and physics be dammed.
You might as well compare math with art. |
Sergamon Draco
Rautaleijona
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.09.04 18:20:00 -
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Remember all star trek is in the future and star wars is in the past (A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away ) |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
813
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Posted - 2013.09.06 00:37:00 -
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To hell with you all.
BROWNCOATS UNITE! |
2-Ton Twenty-One
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:29:00 -
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NNNEEEEEERRRRRRRRDDDDSSSSSSS!!! :P |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.06 07:09:00 -
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SW>ST
Truth |
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Callsign Grave
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.06 14:11:00 -
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Grand Admiral Thrawn, need I say more? |
Athene Alland
Red Fox Brigade
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Posted - 2013.09.06 21:17:00 -
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This has happened before, and will happen again....
-'Ad Mortis Nos Tripudio'- |
Lucrezia LeGrand
Delta Enterprise
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Posted - 2013.09.07 19:01:00 -
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I love Empire Strikes Back, and the new star wars comics with Leia as the main character... but oh man: The first part of the 2009 Star Trek movie just has so many feels. I get all teary eyed when I see Cap. Kirk's dad die. *sob sob*
In regards to lightspeed in the star wars universe, Han Solo mentions that the Millenium Falcon can make .5 past lightspeed... but nothing can go faster than lightspeed. But what is Hyperspace? It's not normal space. So I always figured that as a ship accelerates towards lightspeed the hyperdrive engine kicks in and the ships jump into some kind of slipstream where it can travel to a location faster than lightspeed (like a wormhole). So when han says his ship is .5 past lightspeed I assume he means that traveling through hyperspace he can arrive at a location faster than if he was traveling lightspeed in normal space. Also, because he's not actually going lightspeed, I assume that's why there's no time dilation. Also, the reason why he doesn't take years and years to get from one solar system to another is because approaching lightspeed your speed increases exponentially and I'm going to say just .5 is crazy, hella, faster than lightspeed.
I'm a nerd. I think too much about these things. |
AlleyKatPr0
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.07 22:33:00 -
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Lucrezia LeGrand wrote:I love Empire Strikes Back, and the new star wars comics with Leia as the main character... but oh man: The first part of the 2009 Star Trek movie just has so many feels. I get all teary eyed when I see Cap. Kirk's dad die. *sob sob*
In regards to lightspeed in the star wars universe, Han Solo mentions that the Millenium Falcon can make .5 past lightspeed... but nothing can go faster than lightspeed. But what is Hyperspace? It's not normal space. So I always figured that as a ship accelerates towards lightspeed the hyperdrive engine kicks in and the ships jump into some kind of slipstream where it can travel to a location faster than lightspeed (like a wormhole). So when han says his ship is .5 past lightspeed I assume he means that traveling through hyperspace he can arrive at a location faster than if he was traveling lightspeed in normal space. Also, because he's not actually going lightspeed, I assume that's why there's no time dilation. Also, the reason why he doesn't take years and years to get from one solar system to another is because approaching lightspeed your speed increases exponentially and I'm going to say just .5 is crazy, hella, faster than lightspeed.
I'm a nerd. I think too much about these things.
They used hyperdrive and entered hyperspace, breaking the light speed relative barrier.
I stress relative, as the speed in which a ship can travel when in hyperspace can be many thousands of times the speed of light in relation to normal space, even though the speed gauge will show .5 past light speed.
As I said on the first page, speed of travel in the Star Wars universe is really measured by the distance it takes to traverse in hyperspace. |
pierce Hawkeye
BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2013.09.07 22:49:00 -
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Star wars, because star trek has a stunning lack of stormtroopers |
Jathniel
G I A N T
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.08 01:29:00 -
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I like both, but I like Star Trek more.
Of pretty much all modern sci-fi shows, it's the only one that shows Earth to have a bright future.
I like Star Wars too, but I don't identify with ANY of the characters.
But Star Trek talks about places like Michigan, San Fransciso, Chicago... and despite all the amazing lore, it still finds a way to bring you home.
A good example is Star Trek First Contact, when Lily asks Picard if he ever gets home much.
He said,
"I tend to think of this ship (the Enterprise) as home, but if it's Earth you mean, I try to get back whenever I can."
I like that sentiment. I like that Earth has value to the human race in Star Trek, and that humans aspire to their better angels more in that franchise, than in any other.
SW = Action
ST = Ideals
That's actually the only thing I do not like about EVE... It starts off with Earth, but you end up too far away in principle. I would love to know what happened to Earth in EVE. Humanity isn't going to disappear on either side of the EVE gate, just because the gate closes.
If humanity on Earth survived, it would be far more technologically advanced than any of the major powers in EVE. Perhaps being on par with or greater than the Jovians.
In EVE, I'd like to see us be able to go home one day. |
Otavio Martins
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.08 04:35:00 -
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i wrote a thread like this before, its easy, the answer is : Star Wars > Star Trek
space battles, lightsaber duels, games, Darth Vader (spoiler alert: aka Anakin Skywalker), a lot of history with a lot of wars, and it came before star trek. |
soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2013.09.08 13:37:00 -
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My Little Pony Friendship is Magic > star wars > star trek |
AlleyKatPr0
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.08 18:25:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:
That's actually the only thing I do not like about EVE... It starts off with Earth, but you end up too far away in principle. I would love to know what happened to Earth in EVE. Humanity isn't going to disappear on either side of the EVE gate, just because the gate closes.
If humanity on Earth survived, it would be far more technologically advanced than any of the major powers in EVE. Perhaps being on par with or greater than the Jovians.
In EVE, I'd like to see us be able to go home one day.
The terrans had perfected genetic engineering and are immortal super humans, who consider eve folk as inferior and sent out ships to find these ' lower life forms '
The Jovians met the terrans when a single Terran ship found the Jovians centuries before the other nations were space faring.
The terrans gave the Jovians enough tech to allow them the ability to rise above the other nations and control their destiny.
Due to the incredible distance involved, the terrans would not be able to return for many thousands of years, and when they do, they will eradicate or enslave the eve populous.
Essentially, the Jovians were given a choice: take tech and control the other nations or die.
The Jovians chose the former, but, had secretly planned to do whatever they could to prevent this eradication or subjugation. This is why Jovians began messing with genetic engineering to hopefully enhance themselves. They failed and their second plan was to develop pod technology.
Thought this was common knowledge? |
XANDER KAG
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.08 20:06:00 -
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It might would be, if that fit into the lore at all. The lore truth is that we are all descendants from earth, however almost no one knows this and anyone who goes public with it is considered a looney. Otherwise we know nothing about what happened to human society on the other side of the gate. The Jovians just happened to recover first. |
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AlleyKatPr0
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.08 20:37:00 -
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XANDER KAG wrote:It might would be, if that fit into the lore at all. The lore truth is that we are all descendants from earth, however almost no one knows this and anyone who goes public with it is considered a looney. Otherwise we know nothing about what happened to human society on the other side of the gate. The Jovians just happened to recover first.
That is lore. |
XANDER KAG
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.08 21:18:00 -
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just try posting that in the Intergalactic Summit, see what happens....
But back on topic I love star wars more, Trek has better movies for the most part (unless you count Episodes 5+6), but star wars has FAR better books. |
soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
316
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Posted - 2013.09.08 21:49:00 -
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trek has Jolene Blalock and Jerri Ryan. |
AlleyKatPr0
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2013.09.08 22:15:00 -
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XANDER KAG wrote:just try posting that in the Intergalactic Summit, see what happens....
But back on topic I love star wars more, Trek has better movies for the most part (unless you count Episodes 5+6), but star wars has FAR better books.
Well, since they change the lore whenever they want to suit whatever changes in game design appear, I think it's irrelevant. In addition to this, an ex-player who now works for CCP is trying to change the lore to suit his own personal interpretation of the mechanics of the pod and pod technology in general. Example in point, the liquid in the pod is now breathable liquid versus oxygen tubes as they are/were written to be.
If you think it's bad when fan made fiction breaks lore, think how bad it is when someone with zero video game industry experience or creative professional writing background attempts to make fundamental changes on an egotistical whim.
The terrans actually evolved into pink elephants btw... |
The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:10:00 -
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Star Trek ftw. Star wars is only good because the movies came out when there were very few major SciFi movies being made that were not totally horrible. Star Trek is better because of it seems more real. Also Star Trek gave us a lot of today's technology and Star Wars only gave us empty plots, bad acting and shallow characters. I love them both but Star Trek is better. |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
910
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:40:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Star Trek ftw. Star wars is only good because the movies came out when there were very few major SciFi movies being made that were not totally horrible. Star Trek is better because of it seems more real. Also Star Trek gave us a lot of today's technology and Star Wars only gave us empty plots, bad acting and shallow characters. I love them both but Star Trek is better.
I can only agree with that SW had one shallow character.
Episode 6 Luke. His depth was about as much as a puddle in Death Valley.
But otherwise, th Star Wars movies has a nice plot, and a ton of great characters besides the one noted.
For me however, its all about simply its a fart load easier to watch a few one hour TV shows, then three 2 hour movies.
One thing that make firefly 30 times better then everyone, is it combines the endearablity of Star Wars characters, with the space ship/tech/thought process based story telling of ST, along with its own flair in writing and the atmosphere.
God there must be a season two...
Until then however, reruns FTW! |
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CCP Saberwing
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.15 06:23:00 -
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I love both.
But all things considered, Star Wars > Star Trek. I remember borrowing the original 3 Star Wars films repeatedly from my public library as a kid and watching them to death. My childhood literally was Star Wars. The new three films though...don't get me started.
I also think both of the new Star Trek movies are pretty cool!
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.15 07:54:00 -
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What about Stargate?  |
soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2013.09.15 13:20:00 -
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Muppets from Space and yes Stargate was alright. The series SG-1 was even better. |
ToRgUe77
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
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Posted - 2013.09.16 04:02:00 -
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Star Wars (well the only the originals) The newer films are kind of shallow and unmemorable |
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2013.09.16 23:02:00 -
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ToRgUe77 wrote:Star Wars (well the only the originals) The newer films are kind of shallow and unmemorable
Meesa sad you dont likem prequels.
Signed
Jar Jar Binks
Worst character ever outside of Ewoks |
Lucrezia LeGrand
Delta Enterprise
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Posted - 2013.09.17 07:15:00 -
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soulreaper73 wrote:ToRgUe77 wrote:Star Wars (well the only the originals) The newer films are kind of shallow and unmemorable Meesa sad you dont likem prequels. Signed Jar Jar Binks Worst character ever outside of Ewoks
I don't know. Maybe I was at the "right" age when Phantom Menace came out but I liked Jar Jar Binks and thought he was hilarious. I remember I used to have a Jar Jar plushee.
I also used to think Attack of the Clones was an awesome "romantic" movie, soooo, maybe everything looks better in hindsight. |
Solaire Randash
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.09.19 04:56:00 -
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Only one or 2 other Stargate lovers? :( Love me the Stargate ^_^ |
soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2013.09.19 20:05:00 -
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star wars has the cool video games aka battlefront, lego star wars |
soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2013.09.19 20:07:00 -
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http://youtu.be/ztYS2Nho7F0
best star trek episode ever |
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