Started running a squad of 6 vehicle users. You sure you want us to work together?

Started running a squad of 6 vehicle users. You sure you want us to work together?

I certainly could use the war points.

So why is the expectation that infantry use teamwork to counter vehicles a given while vehicle users doing the same to survive AV is being treated as a new concept?

Because ~2000 damage per AV grenade.

So why is the expectation that infantry use teamwork to counter vehicles a given while vehicle users doing the same to survive AV is being treated as a new concept?

Two guys spamming Lai Dais. Without getting more grenades, that's ~12,000 damage. Tank can't accelerate fast enough to escape that, nevermind getting modules running.

So why is the expectation that infantry use teamwork to counter vehicles a given while vehicle users doing the same to survive AV is being treated as a new concept?

You do realize they coupled it with a nerf, right?

Why is it so hard for people to read patch notes.. Or, they do, but since they don't actually use the weapon system they start crying wolf..

The overall DPS stays on par, due to the reload between shots 3 and 4. Used to be you could fire 5 shots before reloading, now it's max 3. The only thing they're doing is fixing the re-lock time, which has been horribly screwed up for ages now.

1800 for the proto version of the packed, the one with less seek range, which won't one shot either LLAV's or tanks like locus do to infantry.

Honestly If a tank gets solod by AV nades he is either unaware of the situation or simply has bad luck. You need to get close to spam AV nades that puts you on high risk and if the tanker recognizes you you are dead. If someone sits on a hive spamming AV nades he has either succesfully sneaked up to or set a trap in both cases he deserves the kill. Also the Lai Dai is a proto AV nade it should be able to kill std and adv gear.

BUT I am a bit unsure wether I like the effectiveness of AV nades or not. On one hand they are high risk high reward but beeing more effective as the other AV options seems not right. I still believe they should get a penalty against tanks and a bonus against LAVs

1800 for the proto version of the packed, the one with less seek range, which won't one shot either LLAV's or tanks like locus do to infantry.

Honestly If a tank gets solod by AV nades he is either unaware of the situation or simply has bad luck. You need to get close to spam AV nades that puts you on high risk and if the tanker recognizes you you are dead. If someone sits on a hive spamming AV nades he has either succesfully sneaked up to or set a trap in both cases he deserves the kill. Also the Lai Dai is a proto AV nade it should be able to kill std and adv gear.

BUT I am a bit unsure wether I like the effectiveness of AV nades or not. On one hand they are high risk high reward but beeing more effective as the other AV options seems not right. I still believe they should get a penalty against tanks and a bonus against LAVs

You do realize they coupled it with a nerf, right?

Why is it so hard for people to read patch notes.. Or, they do, but since they don't actually use the weapon system they start crying wolf..

The overall DPS stays on par, due to the reload between shots 3 and 4. Used to be you could fire 5 shots before reloading, now it's max 3. The only thing they're doing is fixing the re-lock time, which has been horribly screwed up for ages now.

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing AV nades lose their ability to do damage; instead, have them temporarily disable the vehicle and prevent them from moving/firing for a few seconds. Pair a fast/sneaky infantry unit that can get in range for the AV nades with an FG/SLer and see what you can do.

OR tanks need proto level! Basic/advanced tanks obviously shouldn't compete with prototype level swarms. It's best to wait for CCP to let them be in the game.