Tank snipers need a way to be destroyed. Something like if they stay behind the redline for too long they get blown up.

There is no real way to kill these fucks, as soon as you do a fraction of damage they run back too where you cant get them with out being killed by redline.

Not good enough to snipe and do not know what a tank is for.

OB's?
Counter them with another HAV?

Tank snipers need a way to be destroyed. Something like if they stay behind the redline for too long they get blown up.

There is no real way to kill these fucks, as soon as you do a fraction of damage they run back too where you cant get them with out being killed by redline.

Not good enough to snipe and do not know what a tank is for.

Tank snipers need a way to be destroyed. Something like if they stay behind the redline for too long they get blown up.

There is no real way to kill these fucks, as soon as you do a fraction of damage they run back too where you cant get them with out being killed by redline.

Not good enough to snipe and do not know what a tank is for.

I, for one, just spent time in a match where someone went 26 and 0 sniping from on top of the MCC. Said gentleman could fire at anything on the map an could not be shot from anywhere on the map. I could not fire on this gent from inside the enemy redline with a sniper rifle. If you'd care to experiment, you'll find that there are many weapons which simply disappear behind the redline, and there are a great deal which don't provide the time to reach someone behind the redline. While I understand the gameplay aspect of the inconsistent redlines and agree with it, that doesn't necessarily mean it isn't being horribly abused. And someone wants me to learn to adapt??? To exploits??? Sorry, not a lot of sympathy for the people who need to cheat the code to get their kills here.

BTW I don't blame the programmers for having holes in the code......I'd just really like to see the folks who abuse them account banned.

Sniping tanks are a consequence, like murder taxi, when tankers (or ex tankers) do it, they are the consequence of a overwhelming AV.

railguns r nothing lime artillery obs r a form of artillery..
the sniping with tanks isnt funny...

When my tank cannot be killed by one person who spent under 75k sp into av nades, I will leave the redline.

When losing a tank doesn't set me back a minimum of 4 matches, I will leave the redline.

When standard forge guns can't outdps an advanced large rail gun, I will leave the redline.

When I no longer have only standard vehicles with which to take on your proto swarms, I will leave the redline.

When I don't need to beg the devs to leave in a confirmed glitch just to make it possible for me to survive, I will leave the redline.

Until then, I'm planting my happy ass safely where you can't get me. You can suck it up and deal with it.

First off rail tanks are long range engagement wepons and when im in the redline with my rail it is normally my job to hold up the rear objective somthing redli e rails are verry effective at because we are long range wepons so sitting in the redling playing point defense on the rear objective is a perfictly valid tactic. And of course when I see a red out in the open within my 250 m rendering distance I will shoot to kill . What the f@#k do all you whiny ar scrubs expect me to do just let them breeze on in get comfy and hack the objective...... hell no im going to give them a 1 way ticket to there mcc. Rail tanks will sit and snipe in the redline so just get over it and play your role.

OB's?
Counter them with another HAV?

Tank snipers need a way to be destroyed. Something like if they stay behind the redline for too long they get blown up.

There is no real way to kill these fucks, as soon as you do a fraction of damage they run back too where you cant get them with out being killed by redline.

Not good enough to snipe and do not know what a tank is for.

Not good enough to snipe and do not know what a tank is for.

I think you're missing the point, the issue isn't your range. The issue is your effective invulnerability to 95% of the players on the map. Personally, I don't think an entire squad should have to work at least half the map just to kill a red-line tank, while it has free license to pick them off the entire time. If we weren't game-blocked from causing you damage, I'm pretty sure you'd see a fair deal less complaints.

Also, the problem is the same that allows folks to camp in the MCC for the entire map and gain points, and I'm pretty sure everyone who doesn't do it hates that.

The problem isn't near invulnerability, ask yourself a better question - Why do you have to kill that tank?

I can be invulnerable any game if I want, just by sitting in the MCC.

The problem, if there is one, is that the tank can cover key locations of the map. That would more easily be explained as poor map design, or good tactic. I think it's a little of both. A well placed rail tank can deny people access to key strategic ground, forcing the fight to an area that favours their team. I think this is a good thing. Having clear sight lines to objective hacking stations is ridiculous. The lack of concealment in this game is ridiculous.

You sir, have an amazing lack of imagination.

Red lines are only visible to the Blue team, FYI. The Red have a different Red Line (much like the one you see when you play the opposite side on that map). The CCP/Shanghai Red Line defined Red Zone is a great little engineering solution for setting boundaries in the game with nothing more than an update to a text file (or whatever they use). As it appears you have not been around for long it might be interesting to note that the Red Zones have moved dramatically over many of the maps.

So blowing them up for being in their own zone makes no sense whatsoever. Which is why I suspect that you have not played long enough to notice the lines are different for Attackers and Defenders.

Also, if you get the Red Tank to retreat you have effectively removed it from battle.

You are late to the party. Learn how to play this game.

2 heavies, forge guns, av nades, and an lav.

drive up that hill he is on and tell him how you feel problem solved

For one, obviously the people who have an issue aren't complaining about your ability to drive/move into a place which affords you 18 seconds to live and shoot, so why point out the difference in red lines, that's just a ridiculous argument. If you can get a kill in the real red line, kudos to you, I hope it was worth the suit and/or vehicle, I've made the sacrifice before myself. On the other hand, anyone who's been playing this game any amount of time has a pretty good idea where the redline that kills the enemy is, and anyone who cares to think about it for a moment realizes this is what the discussion is about.

No one is asking you to camp the centre of the map with your tank because, you see, you don't have to bring in that tank. The map isn't suited to a rail tank or sniper? Too damned bad. Many maps aren't suited to other people's weapon of choice and none of us have the option of going into god mode when it happens. Why should 16 people have to "adapt" to your exploit, and take a suicide squad incapable of infantry warfare into the far reaches of the map, just so you can maintain your KDR. Sorry if it's not a rail tank map....LEARN TO ADAPT.

There's an easy solution to all of this....make both red lines have a timer....give the friendly one a minute if you like. This stops folks from gaining a completely unfair and illogical advantage(sorry folks you can't defend it from a realism or game balance vantage point), and has the ancillary benefit of making it impossible to MCC camp. That's just my thoughts on thematter.

I have underlined the scechyest part of your argument . We are fighting thoisands of years in the future in a verry distant galaxy with clones that use an arry of weponry from plasma canons to laser rifels not only that but oir consciousness is transfered at the-ámoment of death so tell me whare the realism starts? I have said this already but you missed the point rail tanks and snuper rifels are long range I say again long range now if we are in the refline holding up the rear objective(unfortunatly the maps arnt big enough to pull us out the redline and play point defense with longrang wepo s) and distracting enimy troops by forcing some if they wish to , to try and take us on
We perform many tasks at once while sitting in tge redline

1 distract the enimy ( the more tgat try to get me tge less mercs my ground troops have to take on)

2 point defense of the rear objective within optimum engagement range of our equiped wepon.

3 calling out enimy fkanking manouvers

4 vehicle domminense on the field.

5 pissing off oeaple like you. (Its calld psychological warfair)

As I said before youll just have to deal with it.

1) you misunderstood him.
2) typo overload (or your grammar just sucks but I like to think it was just a sequence of errors)

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`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST.