No QQ and no trolls please.

Meh goodluck with that especially in this forum.


I know you will take this reply as a troll or me QQing or whatever you guys want to attack but...


It's nice to see this considered an exploit now when EoN does it but not before when others did it for weeks. Oh well.

This is being supported by not only the FEC but members of EoN too. Both sides have QQers, cut that **** out for once and support somthing that truely is to support the community and game.

Locking the districts to farm is a pathetic move, as well as making a large chunk of the board useless for those that really do want to fight.

So from me and many others that DO care about the game and not just our wallets, +1 .

Am I wrong in saying that the defender don't get 50% of the attacker's remaining clones, unless the attacker brought more than 150 clones?

What I mean is that I don't think the defender gets those 50% of the initial 150 clones, but if the attacker brought 200 clones and only lost 150 (either in battle or via the minimum clone loss), then the defender would get 25 clones?

Other than that your post is pretty accurate.

That would be incorrect the defender does receive 50% of the attack clones to the district and the remaining 50% are how the winning isk reward is paid to the players. 36 million for a clone pack of 120, 60 clones to the district and 60 to the players at a rate of 300,000 per clone so for a maximum of 18 million isk reward to the defending players for winning.

Are you sure, because you only get 150k per clone killed?

Though like I said, everything else is accurate, so no matter what there's still a profit to be made when locking districts.

The clones are sold from the district at a rate of 150,000 isk per clone and are worth 300,000 isk to the players on their reward.

locking yourself up started with cronos and everyone asked for a fix

The reply from ccp: Lolmaybein10years, wedon'tknowhow.

Back then at least it cost you ISK not earned you some.

Easy. Just double the price on clone packs.

Funny you see what he did there? You sir are a witty guy!

Well, I am positive CCP won't do anything about it until we don't care anymore.

Constructively CCP could announce this glitch a violation of TOS, and that it will be monitored and any corp or person caught still using this exploit after 5 days of the announcement, will have their account banned, or reset.

Funny you see what he did there? You sir are a witty guy!

Well, I am positive CCP won't do anything about it until we don't care anymore.

Constructively CCP could announce this glitch a violation of TOS, and that it will be monitored and any corp or person caught still using this exploit after 5 days of the announcement, will have their account banned, or reset.

That would probably fix it, but it would take them giving a **** first.

This is like buying up all the houses in monopoly. No Houses = No rent. The rules are very clearly laid out and we are following them to a T. The way to counter buying up all the houses in monopoly is to not let the dude get set up. You've had months and months to attack us. The LoI war was the ideal time.

Well I just lost some respect for the Team Players.

You do know you can't take your ISK with you.

This is like buying up all the houses in monopoly. No Houses = No rent. The rules are very clearly laid out and we are following them to a T. The way to counter buying up all the houses in monopoly is to not let the dude get set up. You've had months and months to attack us. The LoI war was the ideal time.

The problem is that you guys acquired all of this land while PC was unplayable to a large chunk of the playerbase due to lag and memory leaks, and while the balance was arguably as skewed and "broken" as it's ever been towards a few FOTM setups.

Heck, I'd be surprised if the majority of players even realized you guys were grabbing so much land, most of us didn't even look at the stats for PC for months. Now that the majority of the technical problems with PC are fixed, and the game is a little bit more balanced, everyone takes another look at the game mode and lo and behold; 1 group seems to own most of the territory.

Now, this would be fine if the equilibrium could be fixed by attacking your districts and whittling down your hold to just the amount of districts you guys can hold (which was the main intent of the FEC). Unfortunately, with the broken mechanic of being able to "lock down" your districts and still turn a profit, you can pretty much sit on all that land inevitably.

Is this your fault? No. You guys saw an opportunity and took it. Unfortunately for you guys though, just like so many other aspects of the game, CCP's mistakes are going to have to negatively effect someone in order to fix them.

So, if you guys want to sit on those districts and leave them locked indefinitely, then go for it, it just helps prove how broken the game mode really is. However, if you don't want to sit on them and keep them locked, then it looks to me like you're either going to keep getting attacked until you reach a size that you can hold on your own, or you can step up to the negotiating table and meet the demands of the FEC.

The cheap way, the hard way, or the easy way.

Your choice.

This is such a ridiculous argument. It's just so disingenious, and doesn't really reflect reality. I'm just going to copy/pasta my response in the the bugs forum thread, because it's just as relevant to your post as it was over there:

We earned all of our districts fair and square. Most of the corps that we took the districts from, didn't show up or showed up with like 4 guys and ringers.. PC has been playable for months now. And still we marched on. Because we DO like a good fight... but most of the matches launched were red-line- pubstomp that were never intended to do anything but waste our time. Granted some corporations showed up ready, but the vast majority of the attacks were designed to take us away from playing the good games. Also: Neither side is in a position to make "Demands". Locked or not, I think we have a strong position. We've used this time to stomp out the fires.

but if all of you clowns would have sat it out like the rest of us; maybe CCP would have fixed things sooner. .

I've heard it all.

I've heard it all.

based on your quote, it looks like you only "heard" one sentence.

So if the melee exploit should be bannable then what about locking of districts? Just saying both are pathetic and no excuse will ever change that

I think they should be stripped of ISK made of said cowardly act and be fined per district, per day for using this to hurt the game.

OR be stripped of the districts totally.

You(funny story) started this war. You waged it with faceless masses.
We don't have faceless masses, but we do have friends and resources. We have been accumulating resources(Districts and ISK) aggressively since PC started and we will be damned if our massive material advantage isn't going to be the weapon we fight it with if it is completely within the ruleset.

You stack timers, we stack timers.

I think they should be stripped of ISK made off said cowardly act and be fined per district, per day for using this to hurt the game.

OR be stripped of the districts totally.

You know it does sound like TP is scared now. All that talk that they do about their greatness and here they are hiding in a corner and shaking in their dropsuits. Even if you guys win this war I bet you lose alliance members and friends. The beginning of your end has started TP. You have made so many enemys that you will never be able to rest easy. Also while you hide and do nothing lots of smaller corps and alliances are getting better and better everyday. What makes you think you can hold out indefinitely against the influx of new alliances and various ppl that hate you guys and everything that you stand for because you guys will for sure be king nothings then.

Oh no - people hate TP! Hide yo kids, hide yo wife!

Im better at this then you so stop while you are ahead or keep going and look like an idiot.........There I go again. Look like an idiot. Ha

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So, cool for you, I guess, for playing when it was terrible, but if all of you clowns would have sat it out like the rest of us; maybe CCP would have fixed things sooner. Instead, you helped perpetuate the problems by keeping the numbers up in a literally broken game mode, took most of the land, earned billions of ISK, and can now exploit the continued broken mechanics to insulate yourselves from having to actually defend your land.

I mean, get real.

You know it does sound like TP is scared now. All that talk that they do about their greatness and here they are hiding in a corner and shaking in their dropsuits. Even if you guys win this war I bet you lose alliance members and friends. The beginning of your end has started TP. You have made so many enemys that you will never be able to rest easy. Also while you hide and do nothing lots of smaller corps and alliances are getting better and better everyday. What makes you think you can hold out indefinitely against the influx of new alliances and various ppl that hate you guys and everything that you stand for because you guys will for sure be king nothings then.

Hide yo districts

Hide yo districts

If the melee glitchers get banned I'd be fine with this.

CRONOS does this, response - Its metagaming, u mad bro? GOML noobs

EoN does this, response - Its exploiting the game, you cheating, you afraid to lose?


Love the double standards from the community

Fact is it isnt cheating or exploiting anything, its a part of the game mechanics and if you want to do it go ahead because a corp is attacking another corps district so its fine - In other words 'Metagaming at its finest'

CRONOS does this, response - Its metagaming, u mad bro? GOML noobs

EoN does this, response - Its exploiting the game, you cheating, you afraid to lose?


Love the double standards from the community

Fact is it isnt cheating or exploiting anything, its a part of the game mechanics and if you want to do it go ahead because a corp is attacking another corps district so its fine - In other words 'Metagaming at its finest'

The entire PC mechanic needs to change.

It's not worth playing. I really, really, really hate the ringer mechanic. I think there should be a 20 clone penalty for every ringer you bring into the match.

Start there and I think you'd start to see some balance in PC.