It is obvious these people don't play their own games. They refer to graphs rather than actually referring to people in the role they are modifying.

Who asked for ammunition for vehicles? It seems like ANOTHER un-fun and un-necessary mechanic tacked on to further limit the viability of our vehicles.

Where are the Warpoints for Logistic Vehicle operations outside of the Infantry Repair vehicle's tool? Why do dropships still get no Warpoints for spawn ins? Why no points for shield transporting or armor repairing?

All Wolfman's post tells me is HE DOESN'T GET IT.
We don't fill a niche?

-WRONG-

Imagine HAVs as Heavies and use us as so.
We accel in point defense in PC, as well as vehicle denial and suppression of infantry.

Dropships accel in getting infantry to point FAST and SAFE.
They also help with putting snipers in great locations.
With turreteers, they provide a very clear infantry and tank suppression role.

LLAVs offer incredible scouting opportunities. Whether eye-balling the enemy or scanning them out, they can
point out the enemy. They can harass infantry with their turret, passengers or with your bumper. They can
shield transport and armor repair infantry rather well and with certain builds you can rep tanks with them.

Just because the vocal minority of ****** vehicle operators can't make them work doesn't mean they don't fill a niche
and it doesn't mean you need to IMPOSE MORE RESTRICTIONS ON US!!!


He is working on a mechanic he doesn't know offering changes
that aren't needed for players who do get it. It is getting RIDICULOUS.

November and the PS4 can't come soon enough because I just can't stop shaking my head at this game.

Until then, I'll still be using my HAVs, LAVs, and Dropships, wishing furiously they'd give us more tools to work with,
rather than the CONSTANT stream of disappointment.

It is obvious these people don't play their own games. They refer to graphs rather than actually referring to people in the role they are modifying.

Who asked for ammunition for vehicles? It seems like ANOTHER un-fun and un-necessary mechanic tacked on to further limit the viability of our vehicles.

Where are the Warpoints for Logistic Vehicle operations outside of the Infantry Repair vehicle's tool? Why do dropships still get no Warpoints for spawn ins? Why no points for shield transporting or armor repairing?

All Wolfman's post tells me is HE DOESN'T GET IT.
We don't fill a niche?

-WRONG-

Imagine HAVs as Heavies and use us as so.
We accel in point defense in PC, as well as vehicle denial and suppression of infantry.

Dropships accel in getting infantry to point FAST and SAFE.
They also help with putting snipers in great locations.
With turreteers, they provide a very clear infantry and tank suppression role.

LLAVs offer incredible scouting opportunities. Whether eye-balling the enemy or scanning them out, they can
point out the enemy. They can harass infantry with their turret, passengers or with your bumper. They can
shield transport and armor repair infantry rather well and with certain builds you can rep tanks with them.

Just because the vocal minority of ****** vehicle operators can't make them work doesn't mean they don't fill a niche
and it doesn't mean you need to IMPOSE MORE RESTRICTIONS ON US!!!


He is working on a mechanic he doesn't know offering changes
that aren't needed for players who do get it. It is getting RIDICULOUS.

November and the PS4 can't come soon enough because I just can't stop shaking my head at this game.

Until then, I'll still be using my HAVs, LAVs, and Dropships, wishing furiously they'd give us more tools to work with,
rather than the CONSTANT stream of disappointment.

CCP Rejavik
CCP Shanghia

Same company different studios, one has near perfected the player feedback process, the other is still rolling on the floor after it fell over its first baby step.

I don't agree with that. I use my blaster tank as a way to push objectives and clear the map of lavs, allowing my team to cross open parts of the map and kill and capture objectives.

Railgun tank is used to counter enemy havs, drops, manned installations and snipers. not bad for holding objectives from a far.

Missile tank...... well that's just for fun I guess.

You are being very, very ignorant wih your post.

Turrets will now have finite ammunition. Vehicle vs. vehicle combat generally boils down to two vehicles parked opposite one another firing until someone pops. This is not fun. Finite ammunition allows us to make turrets more POWERFUL while preventing them from being a constant threat; spam a target and eventually you will run out of ammo.

That's what has been said. And I don't know about you but I don't like parking next to enemy tanks and shooting constantly to see who overhearts/runs out of modules to activate first. Open your eyes.

Missiles currently are suppression and bombardment of larger targets (anti-facility anti-hav) without the prohibitive cost of a rail gun but you have to fight a bit more like a brawler with it. The spread and streak of the missiles is nice that it helps with ground to air accuracy but due to the slow travel speed this all falters out at longer distances.

i bet 1million ISK that turrets don't get any more powerful.

I actually like a majority of the proposed changes, limited ammo stores being my favorite. Means you'll at least have to get off your redline hill to reload.

Also, if they talked to the people they were modifying, it would be nothing but a slew of requests for buffs in every niche role. I'd take data over "feels" any day.

Naw, they will simply recall the vehicle and call in another for a reload, something most tankers are used to.

The biggest benefit I see is having a buddy use up all the rounds in your side turrets then nubs have no reason to stay in your vehicle and they cannot reveal your location with random spam as well.