Wellp, from the looks of it by Wolfman's post, dropships are getting the nerfcannon compared to tanks and their nerf hammer. I understand that they're trying to rework vehicles, but in terms of pilots and being able to do something, they just obliterated any chances of dropship pilots to survive in the skies until what, 1.7, 1.8? 1.5 was supposed to be the savior but it seems most were wrong.

A) The whole system they're using to rework - based on tanks

Reading that, CCP is essentially making it so everything is merely situational, ex: you use active hardeners on your tank and you can take 15 seconds of pain. With Dropships? Let's see.. I still don't know where the majority of forgegun and railtank shots come from, so how do I know when to activate said hardener? What's the point if it has a year-long recharge time? (over exaggeration).

B) Adding turret ammunition - Once more, based on tanks.

Not that vehicle turrets already overheat or anything, but that combined with small turrets, which, I might add, dropships are only capable of using; greatly decreases survivability in all combat situations, whether it's logistics or an Assault variant. A key example here is using the 20G blasters. It takes at least 60 shots to kill someone with it, why? Because Dropships. In the assault variant, it requires keeping on target, seems easy? Not when your ship is slightly rocking or when you suddenly get smashed by a forge gun shot.

Dropships were already pretty situational for the most part; assault used to surpress enemies, attack tanks/LAV's, troop transport. By doing what they're doing, they've removed them being even situational for everything except getting in an MLT and flying your forge gunner to a high place where he rains fire down. Unless 1.5 proves me wrong, I honestly can't say I'll be flying dropships anymore. They already cost a fortune; generally the same or more than tanks (save Enforcers) and they are the easiest thing to kill since, well, ever.

They have only ever been nerfed, never buffed. Before, it was a nerf hammer, now? It's a nerfcannon. I hope we vehicle users can get a respec for 1.5, becase they just killed off all reasons to use them. 'Tis but a sad day.

As much as I like to think I'm a team player I will be removing all side guns from my DS's. Non-team members simply won't leave my DS and shoot like morons at everything. I feel like a kindergarten teacher - "Yes, well done, you've certainly shown that patch of completely barren ground who's boss. Ooh, nice job waking up that sleeping turret gun. Makes my escape from the nasty red forgegunner so much more entertaining..." -_-

dude, ima fking quit if the tank gets nerfed 1 more god dam time... Also if they put the ammo thing.. ima quit

Next their gonna put fking gass station in the middle of the map for us to get out and refuel our tanks...

Don't care if you quit just because you lack reason. How is unlimited ammo plausible and don't give me the "I'm manufacturing my own ammo inside the tank" BS someone else tried.

iam not sure how 1.5 will work out but i can asure you dropships dont cost any where near the ammount HAV's do now have i herd of drop ships being more expensive than them. i mean our large turrets are very pricey.

Don't care if you quit just because you lack reason. How is unlimited ammo plausible and don't give me the "I'm manufacturing my own ammo inside the tank" BS someone else tried.

Don't care if you quit just because you lack reason. How is unlimited ammo plausible and don't give me the "I'm manufacturing my own ammo inside the tank" BS someone else tried.

so pretty much giving turrets ammo would screw up my dropship/ads, and also make using missile turrets even more pointless.

Using tanks are already very dependant on your team and now ill have to trust randoms to capture and hold supply depots, or else ill have to drive back to base. Games that have vehicles mixed in with infantry do not give ammo to there vehicles.

dude, ima fking quit if the tank gets nerfed 1 more god dam time... Also if they put the ammo thing.. ima quit

Next their gonna put fking gass station in the middle of the map for us to get out and refuel our tanks...

with a nano hive your practically manufacturing ammo. Its entirely plausible that if they can reanimate people beside crus and in inside of vehicles then ammo should be like Childs play

I couldn't care less about tanks, but I LOL'd with the gas station comment.

This is just another example of CCP not knowing wtf they'e doing. Listening to ppl that say tanks should have limited ammo. That's not how to go about nerfing tanks. Finding balance between their damage output and survivability is key. If that means nerfing their damage output to balance them, fine. But that means POSSIBLY reducing damage values of tank guns, not limiting their ammo.

so pretty much giving turrets ammo would screw up my dropship/ads, and also make using missile turrets even more pointless.

Using tanks are already very dependant on your team and now ill have to trust randoms to capture and hold supply depots, or else ill have to drive back to base. Games that have vehicles mixed in with infantry do not give ammo to there vehicles.

Im not sure I have a preference either way but dont give me the "realism" is more important than game balance nonsense.

Were in space with teleports and warp gates. Unlimited battery powernon dropsuits that can move forever. Nano armor reps. Transfering conciousness to clones. Laser crystals and energy shields. Give me a break

Limited ammo might not be as bad an idea if tanks were FREE. (although I'd still question it)

But when tanks cost in the millions of isk, then potentially making it nothing more than a 3-man tansport after a few minutes just sounds dumb.

Well, this derailed rather quickly.

I hope im not spending half of the match running away because module cooldowns are up.
Half the match leaving mid fight to restock ammo because assault dropship aiming is crqp
And the third half running away because one assault forge gun started firing at me.

Then getting an rdv spawned into me when I have a single minute to come back to it all

Roll with a squad. It's a team-based game. You shouldn't be allowed to run solo without any consequences.