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GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
the unholy legion of darkstar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.08.26 06:51:00 -
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dude dont get mad all suits are for different situations heavys are mostly close quarters assault rifles for medium and close snipers for medium and long range but my tip for u is always stay close to friendlys and never go out in the open unless u want to be run over by llav. |
Jake Bloodworth
DUST University
Ivy League
92
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Posted - 2013.08.26 06:55:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:First off, if your running armor plates, you are ruining your turn speeds for no reason. Second. SQUAT you fat sumo! Improves dispersion so much.
Third, get a complex damage mod on that *****.
I got a basic advanced heavy (cause I was smart enough to go Commando suit), standard HMG, M1 grenades, basic armor rep, enhanced shield extender and cardiac regulator.
I'm fkn crushin it! i have about 590 armor and 620 shield, i do squat, i have a tiny rep on my adv suit only repping 3 Hps but i have enhanced dmg mod and adv hmg
Do tell how you managed 620 shields while running a damage modifier? |
Boomer Dues Mortis
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
197
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Posted - 2013.08.26 08:02:00 -
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I went 44-0 a week ago with a 17k suit using a Std HMG, the problem is not the gun it is the user. |
Shadow Of-Chaos
Club Midnight
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Posted - 2013.08.26 08:02:00 -
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Jake Bloodworth wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:First off, if your running armor plates, you are ruining your turn speeds for no reason. Second. SQUAT you fat sumo! Improves dispersion so much.
Third, get a complex damage mod on that *****.
I got a basic advanced heavy (cause I was smart enough to go Commando suit), standard HMG, M1 grenades, basic armor rep, enhanced shield extender and cardiac regulator.
I'm fkn crushin it! i have about 590 armor and 620 shield, i do squat, i have a tiny rep on my adv suit only repping 3 Hps but i have enhanced dmg mod and adv hmg Do tell how you managed 620 shields while running a damage modifier?
he didnt |
THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Pure Innocence.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.26 08:09:00 -
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get prof 5, & use 2 complex damage mods on a basic proto with a boundless.
you will never complain about the HMG again. |
General Erick
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
61
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Posted - 2013.08.26 09:14:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:ADV and basic HMG are both complete utter ****... you either have to be 1 meter away from your enemy to kill this baster or accept defeat to a milita suit. MH82 is okaish. HMGs need alittle bit more range but the damage is okay, its more so the heavy suit sucks, not the hmg i got 1200 ehp and i go down, fking hate this game.
Two lessons from an experienced heavy player with only 1000 max HP.
1. Stay out of open areas.
2. Stay on target and don't press the L1 button unless at long range. |
XiBravo
TeamPlayers
EoN.
187
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Posted - 2013.08.26 09:18:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:get prof 5, & use 2 complex damage mods on a basic proto with a boundless.
you will never complain about the HMG again.
That's enough out of you 
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Scalesdini
The Surrogates Of War
128
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Posted - 2013.08.26 09:44:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:ADV and basic HMG are both complete utter ****... you either have to be 1 meter away from your enemy to kill this baster or accept defeat to a milita suit.
You're doing it wrong. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
17
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Posted - 2013.08.26 10:04:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:castba wrote:Why would you expect heavy + hmg to be god mode? Because its a GOD DAM HEAVY WITH FKING 1200 EHP AND A HEAVY MACHINE GUNE, "A MINI GUN" except we get taken down by milita suits at like 20 meters distance... Why do you question sooo much?
Becaue every 5 min you complain about something that so many other people can use effectively, its almost as if you expect to be one man army irrespective of your fit, vechile or mindset. Learn to use the guns and stop sounding like a 3 year old throwing his teddy's out the cot all time!!
If a weapon isnt working for you go to the training grounds and ask for advice! |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
1109
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Posted - 2013.08.26 10:08:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:ADV and basic HMG are both complete utter ****... you either have to be 1 meter away from your enemy to kill this baster or accept defeat to a milita suit.
I they are using an AR, I feel your pain. AR's are insanely OP against heavy suits.
Otherwise, HMG's > Most everything in CQC. If it wasn't for AR's and shield tanked players, they would be incredibly OP.
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
3302
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Posted - 2013.08.26 13:00:00 -
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I use a militia heavy with a standard HMG and a militia damage mod ( I'm poor okay), I get stomped at range but if I play smart and get close I can do some serious damage, in an ambush yesterday I managed to flank a group of reds, I got 4 kills in under 10 seconds before they took me down, maybe you should just get good OP? |
SILVERBACK 02
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
156
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Posted - 2013.08.26 13:16:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:ADV and basic HMG are both complete utter ****... you either have to be 1 meter away from your enemy to kill this baster or accept defeat to a milita suit. MH82 is okaish. HMGs need alittle bit more range but the damage is okay, its more so the heavy suit sucks, not the hmg i got 1200 ehp and i go down, fking hate this game.
try using the assault foorge as an anti infantry weapon... you will be suprised
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Doc Noah
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
480
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Posted - 2013.08.26 14:38:00 -
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AR OP against heavies? Seems about right, its not like a heavy could use an AR or anyth~ |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
5914
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Posted - 2013.08.26 14:44:00 -
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I don't know how the HMG performs in PC but in pubs I don't see why anyone would complain. I romp the crap out of pubs with my advanced HMG fit and it feels like it's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too easy, not the other way.
L2Flux?
Doc Noah wrote:AR OP against heavies? Seems about right, its not like a heavy could use an AR or anyth~
I took AR all the way to prof 3 with some upgrade skills and what not. I want to get rid of every last SP I wasted on those boring ass guns.
Oh wait, that would destroy the delicate economy of DUST and send us spiraling helplessly out of control into a world of chaos and dismay where everything is FoTM and everyone is sad. |
Jake Bloodworth
DUST University
Ivy League
93
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Posted - 2013.08.26 15:02:00 -
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Shadow Of-Chaos wrote:Jake Bloodworth wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:First off, if your running armor plates, you are ruining your turn speeds for no reason. Second. SQUAT you fat sumo! Improves dispersion so much.
Third, get a complex damage mod on that *****.
I got a basic advanced heavy (cause I was smart enough to go Commando suit), standard HMG, M1 grenades, basic armor rep, enhanced shield extender and cardiac regulator.
I'm fkn crushin it! i have about 590 armor and 620 shield, i do squat, i have a tiny rep on my adv suit only repping 3 Hps but i have enhanced dmg mod and adv hmg Do tell how you managed 620 shields while running a damage modifier? he didnt
I know this, and you know this. But, I don't think he knows this.  |
Kam Elto
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
65
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Posted - 2013.08.26 15:03:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:The HMG will be gaining accuracy in 1.4 as well since the operations skill will reduce dispersion by 5% rather than reducing heat buildup. You'll have to worry a bit about overheating but you'll be doing a lot more damage. No, its reducing recoil, but the hmg has hardly any recoil, so idk why they decided to nerf the hmg operations skill.
yeah, not going to be much of an improvement. any word about changing the Sentinel racial bonus that reduces feedback damage? that's a useless bonus for most heavies. |
Cobra CLUTCH79
OVERLORDS OF THE ONI SERPENT
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Posted - 2013.08.26 15:06:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Chad Michael Murray wrote:Don't stand still while shooting, it helps out tons. Pinky swear. if i dont stand, well i wont hit because of the spray of the gun... i literally have to stand still for the gun to stop spraying ...
theres a skill to fix that.. |
Jake Bloodworth
DUST University
Ivy League
93
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Posted - 2013.08.26 15:18:00 -
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I don't think any honest REAL heavy player is going to complain about where the HMG is at. I regularly put up 30+ kill matches with an advanced HMG on a Dren suit. My K/D ratio has risen tremendously since I switched to heavy with Uprising. The HMG could use a quality of life buff here and there. I "think" we are getting one next patch, but that remains to be seen. Any weakness with the heavy lies in the suit and the user. But, we are getting a little love for the suit in 1.4 as well. So, the weakness is going to lie squarely on the user.
The HMG is an absolute terror in close combat. The aiming fixes and the turn speed fixes are going to make it MORE of a terror. I'm convinced that bad heavy players are just like bad tank players. They stand there thinking they should be nigh invincible. This is simply not the case. I shall include a few pointers below for you.
1) Yes, proficiency matters. Spend your SP to get that to 5 as soon as your core skills are in order.
2) Yes, core matters. Get your core armor and shield skills up ASAP. 1000 EHP without the first armor plate is beastly.
3) Yes, Damage Modifiers matter. Complex mods as soon as 1 and 2 are in order imo.
4) Yes, you have to take cover. Bullets are hella dangerous!
5) Yes, you have to strafe, albeit more slowly, like the assault players.
6) Yes, you are the problem if you can't put up big scores in PUB matches.
Example Pub Stomp Suit (Remember: Full core armor/shield and proficiency 5)
Dren Sentinel (Basic Sentinel will do just as well at a slightly higher cost)
Highs - Complex Damage Modifier (But, But, shield extenders... NO)
Lows - Cardiac Regulator Blueprint, 2x Blue Print armor Reps
Sidearm - Blueprint SMG
Heavy Weapon - MH-82 Heavy Machine Gun
Grenades - Blue Print
Sub 20k isk suit that destroys people. Many 40+ kill with less than 10 death matches with this bad boy. Your mileage may vary.
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