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Anmol Singh
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
285
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Posted - 2013.08.26 01:57:00 -
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ADV and basic HMG are both complete utter ****... you either have to be 1 meter away from your enemy to kill this baster or accept defeat to a milita suit. |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
944
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Posted - 2013.08.26 02:00:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:ADV and basic HMG are both complete utter ****... you either have to be 1 meter away from your enemy to kill this baster or accept defeat to a milita suit. MH82 is okaish. HMGs need alittle bit more range but the damage is okay, its more so the heavy suit sucks, not the hmg |
Anmol Singh
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
285
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Posted - 2013.08.26 02:08:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:ADV and basic HMG are both complete utter ****... you either have to be 1 meter away from your enemy to kill this baster or accept defeat to a milita suit. MH82 is okaish. HMGs need alittle bit more range but the damage is okay, its more so the heavy suit sucks, not the hmg
i got 1200 ehp and i go down, fking hate this game. |
castba
Penguin's March
86
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Posted - 2013.08.26 02:15:00 -
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Why would you expect heavy + hmg to be god mode? |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3529
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Posted - 2013.08.26 02:22:00 -
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the ADV HMG isn't too bad for pubs. |
Anmol Singh
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
286
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Posted - 2013.08.26 02:24:00 -
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castba wrote:Why would you expect heavy + hmg to be god mode?
Because its a GOD DAM HEAVY WITH FKING 1200 EHP AND A HEAVY MACHINE GUNE, "A MINI GUN" except we get taken down by milita suits at like 20 meters distance...
Why do you question sooo much? |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3529
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Posted - 2013.08.26 02:36:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:castba wrote:Why would you expect heavy + hmg to be god mode? Because its a GOD DAM HEAVY WITH FKING 1200 EHP AND A HEAVY MACHINE GUNE, "A MINI GUN" except we get taken down by milita suits at like 20 meters distance... Why do you question sooo much?
when you come to terms that heavies are a joke, you'll be fine.
1200+ HP means nothing. You have nades doing 800+ dmg on you, you have Mass Driver spam. People think playing a heavy is "EZ MODE!"... it's not.
Know your angles and positions, and always have a retreating route in mind. |
castba
Penguin's March
86
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Posted - 2013.08.26 02:42:00 -
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I question your thought because it is irrational and was hoping if you did question it yourself, you would hear how ridiculous it sounds.
From one heavy to another (although my sp is in forge and smg) Do you "stand and deliver" or do you pick your moments?
If you don't mind me suggesting something, try this fit:
Dren sentinel (or basic sentinel if you don't have the Elite pack - same suit) Complex damage mod Basic armour plate Complex repairer Basic hmg
Cost is under 11k so you can die 15 times and still make money (and have a ball)... Or you can run it, play intelligently (know when to pull back) and be surprisingly effective. |
Rynoceros
Rise of Old Dudes
575
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Posted - 2013.08.26 02:55:00 -
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25/2 is not uncommon for me with ADV Heavy, MH-82 on my 2m SP alt. I rarely do this on my 10m SP Assault since Uprising.
Unfortunately, MDs are everywhere right now and favor the same areas that Heavies do. This is where some Leroy Jenkins tactics prove useful. |
Shadow Archeus
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
122
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Posted - 2013.08.26 02:59:00 -
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I went 40-8 earlier today........using mlt suit complex damage mod complex armor repair and std hmg....the biggest threat is fgs and MDS......keep your distance but stay within range and have a logi......sure if there's a lot of explosives goin off its gunna be a bad match.....my advice is to have a fit with an ar or SCR to mediate the range......most people think o there's a heavy he can't hit me at this range then zap....charged headshot |
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Chad Michael Murray
The Phoenix Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.08.26 03:12:00 -
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Don't stand still while shooting, it helps out tons. Pinky swear. |
Anmol Singh
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
290
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Posted - 2013.08.26 03:32:00 -
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Chad Michael Murray wrote:Don't stand still while shooting, it helps out tons. Pinky swear.
if i dont stand, well i wont hit because of the spray of the gun... i literally have to stand still for the gun to stop spraying ... |
Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
591
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Posted - 2013.08.26 03:35:00 -
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yeah, on fighting things, it's either firing from an entrenched position(take a knee, use cover, etc) or my escape plan is: THE ONLY WAY OUT IS THROUGH! OPEN FIRE, WALK FORWARD! |
8213
Grade No.2
192
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Posted - 2013.08.26 03:49:00 -
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I have ADV HMG everything. I do more than fine with it. You can't use it on on every map and in every game mode.
You have to change your tactics up. Find DS 10 or CHICAGOCUBS4EVER and have them teach you for a game. You have to be wise with your engagements and you need a Repair Tool user to help you out time-to-time.
The range and damage for the HMG is fine, considering its the most powerful close range weapon in the game, by far. Anything 20m or closer, you will kill, every time. But its more of a support role on the battlefield than an offensive role.
This isn't like the Betas where the HMG rule the battlefield without any skill. Give it more time and practice.
It helps to be on both sides of the HMG know how. You have to know how to kill an HMG in order to know how to use an HMG..
Quite frankly, I think HMG is perfect right where its at. |
Anmol Singh
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
290
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Posted - 2013.08.26 03:51:00 -
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8213 wrote:I have ADV HMG everything. I do more than fine with it. You can't use it on on every map and in every game mode.
You have to change your tactics up. Find DS 10 or CHICAGOCUBS4EVER and have them teach you for a game. You have to be wise with your engagements and you need a Repair Tool user to help you out time-to-time.
The range and damage for the HMG is fine, considering its the most powerful close range weapon in the game, by far. Anything 20m or closer, you will kill, every time. But its more of a support role on the battlefield than an offensive role.
This isn't like the Betas where the HMG rule the battlefield without any skill. Give it more time and practice.
It helps to be on both sides of the HMG know how. You have to know how to kill an HMG in order to know how to use an HMG..
Quite frankly, I think HMG is perfect right where its at.
+1 but it can use a bit of a range buff, anything beyond 30m is unkillable and the tracking is just terrible |
8213
Grade No.2
192
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Posted - 2013.08.26 03:52:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:8213 wrote:I have ADV HMG everything. I do more than fine with it. You can't use it on on every map and in every game mode.
You have to change your tactics up. Find DS 10 or CHICAGOCUBS4EVER and have them teach you for a game. You have to be wise with your engagements and you need a Repair Tool user to help you out time-to-time.
The range and damage for the HMG is fine, considering its the most powerful close range weapon in the game, by far. Anything 20m or closer, you will kill, every time. But its more of a support role on the battlefield than an offensive role.
This isn't like the Betas where the HMG rule the battlefield without any skill. Give it more time and practice.
It helps to be on both sides of the HMG know how. You have to know how to kill an HMG in order to know how to use an HMG..
Quite frankly, I think HMG is perfect right where its at. +1 but it can use a bit of a range buff, anything beyond 30m is unkillable and the tracking is just terrible
That's called balance... |
DeadlyAztec11
Red Star Jr. EoN.
2012
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Posted - 2013.08.26 03:57:00 -
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First off, if your running armor plates, you are ruining your turn speeds for no reason. Second. SQUAT you fat sumo! Improves dispersion so much.
Third, get a complex damage mod on that *****.
I got a basic advanced heavy (cause I was smart enough to go Commando suit), standard HMG, M1 grenades, basic armor rep, enhanced shield extender and cardiac regulator.
I'm fkn crushin it! |
Anmol Singh
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
290
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Posted - 2013.08.26 03:59:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:First off, if your running armor plates, you are ruining your turn speeds for no reason. Second. SQUAT you fat sumo! Improves dispersion so much.
Third, get a complex damage mod on that *****.
I got a basic advanced heavy (cause I was smart enough to go Commando suit), standard HMG, M1 grenades, basic armor rep, enhanced shield extender and cardiac regulator.
I'm fkn crushin it!
i have about 590 armor and 620 shield, i do squat, i have a tiny rep on my adv suit only repping 3 Hps but i have enhanced dmg mod and adv hmg |
demonkiller 12
Seraphim Auxiliaries
129
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:05:00 -
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my HMG heavy is awesome always having 5:1 10:1 kd whenever im not forging with him Std Sentinel Std HMG Militia HMG (because ive only gone into heavy weapons on that character) Std Locus for those annoying bunny hopper that like to hover around me
Std shield energizer 2x militia armor reppers
i have 486 shield and armor since both skills are at 4 this fit is fine i dont see why you have a problem it also only costs 7k |
demonkiller 12
Seraphim Auxiliaries
129
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:17:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Chad Michael Murray wrote:Don't stand still while shooting, it helps out tons. Pinky swear. if i dont stand, well i wont hit because of the spray of the gun... i literally have to stand still for the gun to stop spraying ... after firing for 1 second the guns actually super accurate |
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Turtle Hermit Roshi
Famous.OTF Only The Famous
15
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:19:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:ADV and basic HMG are both complete utter ****... you either have to be 1 meter away from your enemy to kill this baster or accept defeat to a milita suit.
NOOB all i use is the basic hmg ..... jus got proficiency 5 tho consecutively i was doing 10/2 this bpast night hmg are the shiznit if you dont agree you are wrong ...and stupid |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
945
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:20:00 -
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Turtle Hermit Roshi wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:ADV and basic HMG are both complete utter ****... you either have to be 1 meter away from your enemy to kill this baster or accept defeat to a milita suit. NOOB all i use is the basic hmg ..... jus got proficiency 5 tho consecutively i was doing 10/2 this bpast night hmg are the shiznit if you dont agree you are wrong ...and stupid Im mostly happy with the hmg, tho i think it needs a tad more range. You? |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
673
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:22:00 -
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The HMG will be gaining accuracy in 1.4 as well since the operations skill will reduce dispersion by 5% rather than reducing heat buildup. You'll have to worry a bit about overheating but you'll be doing a lot more damage. |
demonkiller 12
Seraphim Auxiliaries
129
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:22:00 -
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8213 wrote:I have ADV HMG everything. I do more than fine with it. You can't use it on on every map and in every game mode.
The range and damage for the HMG is fine, considering its the most powerful close range weapon in the game, by far. Anything 20m or closer, you will kill, every time.. ive never seen a heavy beat plazma canun in CQC, it excels at the shotguns role |
demonkiller 12
Seraphim Auxiliaries
129
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:23:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:8213 wrote:I have ADV HMG everything. I do more than fine with it. You can't use it on on every map and in every game mode.
You have to change your tactics up. Find DS 10 or CHICAGOCUBS4EVER and have them teach you for a game. You have to be wise with your engagements and you need a Repair Tool user to help you out time-to-time.
The range and damage for the HMG is fine, considering its the most powerful close range weapon in the game, by far. Anything 20m or closer, you will kill, every time. But its more of a support role on the battlefield than an offensive role.
This isn't like the Betas where the HMG rule the battlefield without any skill. Give it more time and practice.
It helps to be on both sides of the HMG know how. You have to know how to kill an HMG in order to know how to use an HMG..
Quite frankly, I think HMG is perfect right where its at. +1 but it can use a bit of a range buff, anything beyond 30m is unkillable and the tracking is just terrible after firing for a few seconds killing anything at 60-75 meters is pretty easy |
demonkiller 12
Seraphim Auxiliaries
129
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:26:00 -
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Yea in 1.4 the HMG* op skill is being changed to 5% recoil reduction per level |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
242
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:27:00 -
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Wow you are complaining about the HMG the 2nd most unskilless weapon in the game? (1st being AR) |
castba
Penguin's March
89
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Posted - 2013.08.26 05:57:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:The HMG will be gaining accuracy in 1.4 as well since the operations skill will reduce dispersion by 5% rather than reducing heat buildup. You'll have to worry a bit about overheating but you'll be doing a lot more damage. Reducing kick, not dispersion |
Dexter307
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
129
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Posted - 2013.08.26 06:20:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:The HMG will be gaining accuracy in 1.4 as well since the operations skill will reduce dispersion by 5% rather than reducing heat buildup. You'll have to worry a bit about overheating but you'll be doing a lot more damage. No, its reducing recoil, but the hmg has hardly any recoil, so idk why they decided to nerf the hmg operations skill. |
RA Drahcir
Psygod9
136
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Posted - 2013.08.26 06:38:00 -
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HMGs need to be doing this and this |
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