DUST Search - CCP here is your vid of the melee cheat being used in PC and Tournament batts

Zatara Rought wrote:

Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:

Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:

Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:

If shotgun hit detection wasn't **** you probably all would be getting shot gunned instead of punched in the face.

IF poop had bones it would walk.

Please, don't use 'ifs' and 'buts' in this case. The user is clearly exploiting a glitch in the game's mechanic.

I know the glitch exists. I am aware that stacking melee mods will allow you to two shot anyone.

Just stating the fact that at the end of the day, that scout got within it's prime killing space. Shotgunning would provide the exact same results you are seeing here. I'd like for you guys to keep that in mind as you're crying about this. I would like to see glitches and bugs polished off but to me, you guys were dead anyway.

This is silly logic. With the melee glitch you actually aim and rapid fire melee will turn your body towards you opponent. You have no reload time, and because you need no weapon you don't have to sacrifice cpu p/g so you can run all complex kin kats/shield extenders/ damage mods/stamina mods. You're clip is astronomically high with the melee glitch. The shotty with hit detection or knives you have to get close and aim..and then wait for a short period of time before attacking again (whether that's half a sec between shotgun blasts or half a sec before nova slashes) where this glitch can go on like the energizer bunny.

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Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 7752	Posted - 2013.08.25 20:56:00 - [31] - Quote Well it took me awhile to figure out what exactly is happening here, thanks a lot op for not describing reproduction steps :< either way forwarded.
Baracka Flocka Flame SyNergy Gaming EoN. 760	Posted - 2013.08.25 21:00:00 - [32] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Well it took me awhile to figure out what exactly is happening here, thanks a lot op for not describing reproduction steps :< either way forwarded. lolwut you never heard of this? Wow... someone told me about this couple months ago lol. Atleast CCP and CPM on top of their game. Got to say though CCP really needs to come out and address this. People have been sending in tickets and getting BS replies. Sooner or later you will just see people on each team running around doing this then into pubs. Should be fun.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 7752	Posted - 2013.08.25 21:02:00 - [33] - Quote Baracka Flocka Flame wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Well it took me awhile to figure out what exactly is happening here, thanks a lot op for not describing reproduction steps :< either way forwarded. lolwut you never heard of this? Wow... someone told me about this couple months ago lol. Atleast CCP and CPM on top of their game. Got to say though CCP really needs to come out and address this. People have been sending in tickets and getting BS replies. Sooner or later you will just see people on each team running around doing this then into pubs. Should be fun. I heard of it, never seen it performed on me and I know how to do it myself. Just the video was poor enough I couldn't tell what was going on.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3525	Posted - 2013.08.25 21:02:00 - [34] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Well it took me awhile to figure out what exactly is happening here, thanks a lot op for not describing reproduction steps :< either way forwarded. tbh, CCP knows about it, we're asking for action against said player and his team. Why his team you might ask. - They knew what he was doing and condoned it. - Team Sports, let's take for example men's 4x100m at the Olympics. If 1 guy is found positive for PEDs, his 3 teammates will be DQ'd, stripped of medals if they got any, and he is banned.
low genius the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance 354	Posted - 2013.08.25 21:09:00 - [35] - Quote InsertCoinHere wrote: CCP I hope you can give the community some feedback on when you plan on fixing this problem. This cheat is going on in PC and tournament battles and is resulting in a win for the team that is using this cheat. I put this vid together for you so you can see for yourself the cheat in action. It is a one shot kill, and towards the end of the vid you can see where it is used to kill 3 guys in a row. Please fix this as soon as you can CCP, thanks Coin http://youtu.be/J6H52yHy1Dk yeah, that looks pretty wak.
Everything Dies Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 45	Posted - 2013.08.25 21:14:00 - [36] - Quote Can someone explain to me what's going on? I don't mean how to do the glitch, but rather what exactly is happening that makes this a glitch? Is it a basic melee attack that is somehow resulting in one-hit kills? I'm not much of a fighter at close range but I am trying to experiment a bit more...what should I be looking out for when/if someone tries this?
InsertCoinHere 0uter.Heaven 53	Posted - 2013.08.25 21:19:00 - [37] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Baracka Flocka Flame wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Well it took me awhile to figure out what exactly is happening here, thanks a lot op for not describing reproduction steps :< either way forwarded. lolwut you never heard of this? Wow... someone told me about this couple months ago lol. Atleast CCP and CPM on top of their game. Got to say though CCP really needs to come out and address this. People have been sending in tickets and getting BS replies. Sooner or later you will just see people on each team running around doing this then into pubs. Should be fun. I heard of it, never seen it performed on me and I know how to do it myself. Just the video was poor enough I couldn't tell what was going on. First of all, thanks for forwarding this to CCP. As far as the quality goes, you can go to change quality at the bottom right of the volume and make it 720hd. I just hope CCP does the right thing by the guys that played against him in the tournaments. As far as PC batts goes we screwed. PPL can come on here and say what thy want, but a guy cheating getting top 3 in tournament or PC batts going 20 plus kills doing this is not right and this needs to be addressed. Once again thanks for your support, Coin
Kane Banned Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 10	Posted - 2013.08.25 21:21:00 - [38] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: Can someone explain to me what's going on? I don't mean how to do the glitch, but rather what exactly is happening that makes this a glitch? Is it a basic melee attack that is somehow resulting in one-hit kills? I'm not much of a fighter at close range but I am trying to experiment a bit more...what should I be looking out for when/if someone tries this? The glitch allows you to melee 2-3 times a second which results in you being instakilled.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3526	Posted - 2013.08.25 21:21:00 - [39] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: Can someone explain to me what's going on? I don't mean how to do the glitch, but rather what exactly is happening that makes this a glitch? Is it a basic melee attack that is somehow resulting in one-hit kills? I'm not much of a fighter at close range but I am trying to experiment a bit more...what should I be looking out for when/if someone tries this? you'll know when it happens. Your HP goes from full to 0 in half a second.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1819	Posted - 2013.08.25 21:32:00 - [40] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: Can someone explain to me what's going on? I don't mean how to do the glitch, but rather what exactly is happening that makes this a glitch? Is it a basic melee attack that is somehow resulting in one-hit kills? I'm not much of a fighter at close range but I am trying to experiment a bit more...what should I be looking out for when/if someone tries this? The glitch allows you to melee as fast as you can hit the button. With two melee mods you get around +140% melee damage. So 110 base dps on cal logi suit x 2.4 = 264 damage per hit, and you can hit around 4 times per second. You're essentially able to do 1000 dps and melee has aim assist so the moment you even get close to the person they will die. So you get a cal logi with 2 kin cats and 2 cardiac regulators and you can sprint melee everywhere. Hit detection on sprinting targets in PC is so bad thats its almost impossible to kill him before he can sprint into you. Since you're using sprint to cancel the animation, you just sprint right up to the person and start hitting. You can't sidestep or anything due to the melee aim assist.

Zatara Rought TeamPlayers EoN. 1010	Posted - 2013.08.25 21:41:00 - [41] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: If shotgun hit detection wasn't **** you probably all would be getting shot gunned instead of punched in the face. IF poop had bones it would walk. Please, don't use 'ifs' and 'buts' in this case. The user is clearly exploiting a glitch in the game's mechanic. I know the glitch exists. I am aware that stacking melee mods will allow you to two shot anyone. Just stating the fact that at the end of the day, that scout got within it's prime killing space. Shotgunning would provide the exact same results you are seeing here. I'd like for you guys to keep that in mind as you're crying about this. I would like to see glitches and bugs polished off but to me, you guys were dead anyway. This is silly logic. With the melee glitch you actually aim and rapid fire melee will turn your body towards you opponent. You have no reload time, and because you need no weapon you don't have to sacrifice cpu p/g so you can run all complex kin kats/shield extenders/ damage mods/stamina mods. You're clip is astronomically high with the melee glitch. The shotty with hit detection or knives you have to get close and aim..and then wait for a short period of time before attacking again (whether that's half a sec between shotgun blasts or half a sec before nova slashes) where this glitch can go on like the energizer bunny. And with the cal logi, look at the video he does 1k damage in less than a sec. I've never seen a shotty do that much, or knives...right?
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws 780	Posted - 2013.08.25 21:46:00 - [42] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: If shotgun hit detection wasn't **** you probably all would be getting shot gunned instead of punched in the face. IF poop had bones it would walk. Please, don't use 'ifs' and 'buts' in this case. The user is clearly exploiting a glitch in the game's mechanic. I know the glitch exists. I am aware that stacking melee mods will allow you to two shot anyone. Just stating the fact that at the end of the day, that scout got within it's prime killing space. Shotgunning would provide the exact same results you are seeing here. I'd like for you guys to keep that in mind as you're crying about this. I would like to see glitches and bugs polished off but to me, you guys were dead anyway. This is silly logic. With the melee glitch you actually aim and rapid fire melee will turn your body towards you opponent. You have no reload time, and because you need no weapon you don't have to sacrifice cpu p/g so you can run all complex kin kats/shield extenders/ damage mods/stamina mods. You're clip is astronomically high with the melee glitch. The shotty with hit detection or knives you have to get close and aim..and then wait for a short period of time before attacking again (whether that's half a sec between shotgun blasts or half a sec before nova slashes) where this glitch can go on like the energizer bunny. I'd like to be clear I don't condone this stuff. Glitch needs to be fixed. I'm pretty sure everyone agrees on that. I am having fun arguing though.
mollerz Minja Scouts 906	Posted - 2013.08.25 22:10:00 - [43] - Quote Calamity jane and Annie Oakley have been doing this for a long time. That's when I realized those guys aren't actually good. They just glitch and flock to the FOTM. I used to look forward to hunting them with knives, but since they need that kind of crutch I just ran them over. But who cares. A game developed this sloppy lost my attention. Sad too. Most of the scout community is awesome. But the game just sucks so badly cause of this type of lack of QA in CCPs development.
Shadow of War88 0uter.Heaven 36	Posted - 2013.08.25 22:45:00 - [44] - Quote sad but true
Funkmaster Whale 0uter.Heaven 288	Posted - 2013.08.26 01:47:00 - [45] - Quote I've personally asked Arirana to stop exploiting in a PC match as a gesture of good sportsmanship and he flat out refused because he said he couldn't afford to "hold back" (read: not cheat). Anyways, I e-mailed CCP about it several times and have posted it all over the Technical Forums. The only response I've gotten so far is: "We are aware of this melee issue and we are also actively looking into deploying a fix as soon as possible." Let's hope that means it'll be deployed in a hotfix and not have to wait until 1.5. :/
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 940	Posted - 2013.08.26 01:57:00 - [46] - Quote so we have had 2 major exploit bugs so far... the Mike Tyson one hitter quitter and the invisible mercs..... neither glitch was truly brought into the open as a problem officially from CCP... so expect a quiet but very deserving fix to this issue
SoTah Pawp Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 955	Posted - 2013.08.26 01:59:00 - [47] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: so we have had 2 major exploit bugs so far... the Mike Tyson one hitter quitter and the invisible mercs..... neither glitch was truly brought into the open as a problem officially from CCP... so expect a quiet but very deserving fix to this issue At least the invisible glitch isn't abused in PC as far as I know - or even used/capable. AE on the other hand is abusing the melee glitch like crazy and defend there right too. Lol scrubs.
calvin b Molon Labe. League of Infamy 373	Posted - 2013.08.26 02:14:00 - [48] - Quote OK I know this is going to sound like I am a D*** but whatever. Its not cheating its a glitch and the person is exploiting it. Yes its a bit unfair but look what everyone did with the flay lock. How many are guilty of that one or how about the TAC AR? The person is using a legal exploit, yes legal. why you ask, simple CCP apparently does not test there goods before they release them. If they did this would not be happening like all the other FIM. So please do not blame the player blame CCP. Hate the game not the player.
SoTah Pawp Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 957	Posted - 2013.08.26 02:25:00 - [49] - Quote calvin b wrote: OK I know this is going to sound like I am a D*** but whatever. Its not cheating its a glitch and the person is exploiting it. Yes its a bit unfair but look what everyone did with the flay lock. How many are guilty of that one or how about the TAC AR? The person is using a legal exploit, yes legal. why you ask, simple CCP apparently does not test there goods before they release them. If they did this would not be happening like all the other FIM. So please do not blame the player blame CCP. Hate the game not the player. So - blame CCP because people are willing to exploit broken mechanics to win PC matches? Makes sense honestly. Corps like AE need every little bit they can get to be good.
Another Heavy SOB Pure Innocence. EoN. 570	Posted - 2013.08.26 02:29:00 - [50] - Quote calvin b wrote: OK I know this is going to sound like I am a D*** but whatever. Its not cheating its a glitch and the person is exploiting it. Yes its a bit unfair but look what everyone did with the flay lock. How many are guilty of that one or how about the TAC AR? The person is using a legal exploit, yes legal. why you ask, simple CCP apparently does not test there goods before they release them. If they did this would not be happening like all the other FIM. So please do not blame the player blame CCP. Hate the game not the player. Really? How many time's am I going to have to post this. Blaming CCP for exploiting a glitch is the same as stealing a car and blaming the owner for leaving the keys in it. The owner was dumb but you're still a thief. Also you need to be clear on the definition of a "glitch", which is a malfunction or irregularity often within an electronic system. As you should know the flaylock was not malfunctioning it was simply bad design. While choosing to use it was certainly using a crutch it was NOT a malfunctioning game mechanic!

Zekain Kade TeamPlayers EoN. 1533	Posted - 2013.08.26 02:37:00 - [51] - Quote this glitch isn't that big of a deal really. I mean, he puts himself in so much danger just to kill one guy. The matches I've played against him, the exploit did not help him out as much as everyone says it does. His KD always remained relatively even during the match. using a little teamwork, and calling out his location can go a long way. Don't let him get close.
SoTah Pawp Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 958	Posted - 2013.08.26 02:54:00 - [52] - Quote Zekain Kade wrote: this glitch isn't that big of a deal really. I mean, he puts himself in so much danger just to kill one guy. The matches I've played against him, the exploit did not help him out as much as everyone says it does. His KD always remained relatively even during the match. using a little teamwork, and calling out his location can go a long way. Don't let him get close. Obviously when he plays against one of the best team he doesn't do as well - but that doesn't change the fact he's cheating to do well.
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 228	Posted - 2013.08.26 03:04:00 - [53] - Quote Cant everyone triple melee?

CCP Wolfman C C P C C P Alliance 1387	Posted - 2013.08.26 03:16:00 - [54] - Quote Looking at it now and what kinds of fix may be possible. Will let you know when I know :-)

Cosgar ParagonX 4572	Posted - 2013.08.26 03:19:00 - [55] - Quote CCP Wolfman wrote: Looking at it now and what kinds of fix may be possible. Will let you know when I know :-) Here's what it looks like from a user's perspective too.
ReGnYuM TeamPlayers EoN. 795	Posted - 2013.08.26 03:53:00 - [56] - Quote Easy Solution: Take the stamina drain logarithm on jumping, and add it to the melee system. ReGnUM Wins
0bi wan-jacobi Ancient Exi1es 48	Posted - 2013.08.26 03:58:00 - [57] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Easy Solution: Take the stamina drain logarithm on jumping, and add it to the melee system. ReGnUM Wins ReGnYum always wins :(. Perhaps they could nerf regnyum while there at it. That would help pc out alot :O
Ferocitan Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 53	Posted - 2013.08.26 04:03:00 - [58] - Quote I wonder when going 17,11,1 with dual militia scrambler pistol blueprints is conaidered a cheat.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 791	Posted - 2013.08.26 04:05:00 - [59] - Quote CCP Wolfman wrote: Looking at it now and what kinds of fix may be possible. Will let you know when I know :-) delay = fixed...done?
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1324	Posted - 2013.08.26 04:09:00 - [60] - Quote CCP Wolfman wrote: Looking at it now and what kinds of fix may be possible. Will let you know when I know :-) So, can we expect AE to be disqualified from the tournament and all districts taken with this exploit in the recent war to be returned to their rightful owners? It very clearly states that exploits are not allowed in the tournament rules, but the guys at urgent fury don't seem to understand what is going on with it.



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