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Smooth Assassin
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.24 21:50:00 -
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Don't be hating.
Seriously why? what is the reason? personally i think it's cos you proto's are jealous cos you had to work hard for it, but you know that we all worked hard for our dropsuits too or maybe someone stupidly skilled into a plasma cannon and needs a respec maybe they don't like the HMG cos there isn't a MLT version. |
Nicholas Silverton
Granite Mercenary Division
46
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Posted - 2013.08.24 21:54:00 -
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It's because people are afraid of FOTMers. This is stupid though because grinding to proto only takes a week and ccp takes their sweet Time buffing and nerfing |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
235
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Posted - 2013.08.24 21:57:00 -
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Nicholas Silverton wrote:It's because people are afraid of FOTMers. This is stupid though because grinding to proto only takes a week and ccp takes their sweet Time buffing and nerfing
Depends on what you're proto-ing,
and if you have a job,
or if you go to school,
or just don't have the time.
I think a respec every once and a while would be a good thing-
like maybe every 3 months or so... |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
3133
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Posted - 2013.08.24 21:59:00 -
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Nicholas Silverton wrote:It's because people are afraid of FOTMers. This is stupid though because grinding to proto only takes a week and ccp takes their sweet Time buffing and nerfing
If they decided to grind to proto, they worked for it. Not if you just respec.
Also, there's no way it takes a week. SP cap. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
936
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:00:00 -
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Nicholas Silverton wrote:It's because people are afraid of FOTMers. This is stupid though because grinding to proto only takes a week and ccp takes their sweet Time buffing and nerfing
The FOTM is merely a bad excuse for not wanting respecs though.
Example time:
If say vehicles would become FOTM suddenly, would everybody spec into them?
Or would a lot of people spec into AV to keep the FOTM vehicles at bay?
Would a lot of people anticipate that people would spec into AV and then spec into Assault/Slayer role themselves?
Would a lot of people anticipate that people would spec into Assault/Slayer and then spec into vehicles themselves?
And so on forever.
The point is that there's no fear for anything becoming FOTM since people would spec into the direct counter to this etc. |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
236
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:02:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Nicholas Silverton wrote:It's because people are afraid of FOTMers. This is stupid though because grinding to proto only takes a week and ccp takes their sweet Time buffing and nerfing If they decided to grind to proto, they worked for it. Not if you just respec. Also, there's no way it takes a week. SP cap.
True nuff,
but at the same time if a player gets his/her's favorite suit nerfed, or altered in a way that drastically changes play style, they would probably want to spec into another suit, but if they have a bunch of SP allocated into now useless things (to them) they would feel their time was wasted, and in the end- time is money... |
Garm Hellhound
What The French
CRONOS.
1
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:02:00 -
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Because this is new eden and choices should have consequences.
Also because ppl tend to respec into the OP fit when they have the occasion and thats what kills the game for others that stick to their fits/gamestyle.
And lastly, because it diverts technical resources and time away from actual development of the game . Not to mention all the people bitching and quitting the game because their respec is late or glitched..... blablabla
The first respec should never have happened
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
3133
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:03:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Nicholas Silverton wrote:It's because people are afraid of FOTMers. This is stupid though because grinding to proto only takes a week and ccp takes their sweet Time buffing and nerfing The FOTM is merely a bad excuse for not wanting respecs though. Example time: If say vehicles would become FOTM suddenly, would everybody spec into them? Or would a lot of people spec into AV to keep the FOTM vehicles at bay? Would a lot of people anticipate that people would spec into AV and then spec into Assault/Slayer role themselves? Would a lot of people anticipate that people would spec into Assault/Slayer and then spec into vehicles themselves? And so on forever. The point is that there's no fear for anything becoming FOTM since people would spec into the direct counter to this etc.
You must be new here. Everyone tries to use the FOTM- very few of us spec into whatever counters it.
Like right now- how many LRs and tactical ARs do you see to counter MDs? Very few. |
Bulletmonkey50
Fallen Disciples
The Minmatar Evolutionares
17
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:04:00 -
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yeah but what about suits? haha Nicholas we were talking earlier, i need to get my amarr assault proto, and i wouldn't mind a respec. cause super logi has gotten boring since there isn't as many heavies to chase around. plus people see my calogi and they know what must be done o.0
yes definitely respecs can be good. in eve its much easier to recover from a mistake, usually. they have yet to get that here in dust. but i think they should do respecs with new content. 1.4 is only 2 weapons. not worth it. if it was maybe 2 racial heavy suits and a scout suit. and some weapons, definitely, everyone deserves a respec. So they need to scatter respecs when content that should be here already gets into the game.
i personally wanted to be gallente heavy, cause real men armour tank. but they aren't in the game so i had to do something else. so when i they come out I'm hoping for a respec. |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
295
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:04:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Don't be hating.
Hating for hate's sake. Yeah I just used Hate as if it was a noun. It worked for Terror 13 years ago.
To be fair not everyone against respects are against them all. We have had a litany of views. |
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Smooth Assassin
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
62
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:04:00 -
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I feel sorry for noobs that don't know whats being nerfed. Last match i saw a MLT guy and he had a MD
First thing they should do is get a dropsuit |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
236
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:05:00 -
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Garm Hellhound wrote:Because this is new eden and choices should have consequences.
Also because ppl tend to respec into the OP fit when they have the occasion and thats what kills the game for others that stick to their fits/gamestyle.
And lastly, because it diverts technical resources and time away from actual development of the game . Not to mention all the people bitching and quitting the game because their respec is late or glitched..... blablabla
The first respec should never have happened
You seem to have ...computing...
0 likes
Seems your opinion is not valid to many... |
Smooth Assassin
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
62
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:06:00 -
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Garm Hellhound wrote:Because this is new eden and choices should have consequences.
Also because ppl tend to respec into the OP fit when they have the occasion and thats what kills the game for others that stick to their fits/gamestyle.
And lastly, because it diverts technical resources and time away from actual development of the game . Not to mention all the people bitching and quitting the game because their respec is late or glitched..... blablabla
The first respec should never have happened
Well the respec happened so what does that say about "New eden"? |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
1248
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:06:00 -
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cause of FOTM |
Ren Ratner
Infinite Raiders
73
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:06:00 -
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Skill permanence is a core feature of the game. That's the reason. It's a core feature. It was always a core feature. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
277
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:07:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Don't be hating.
Seriously why? what is the reason? personally i think it's cos you proto's are jealous cos you had to work hard for it, but you know that we all worked hard for our dropsuits too or maybe someone stupidly skilled into a plasma cannon and needs a respec maybe they don't like the HMG cos there isn't a MLT version.
Why are you in favor of it? What is the reason for respecs if you can just spec another month and be able to use the new equip then? Really. Why should you be able to respec if you get unlimited SP anyways? Speccing the wrong thing doesn't hurt you the slightest. It's not that because you specced an Amarr suit that you can never spec a Caldari suit for example.
If you spec into HMG you should be well aware that it costs SP and that you may end up not liking it. |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
236
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:08:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:I feel sorry for noobs that don't know whats being nerfed. Last match i saw a MLT guy and he had a MD
First thing they should do is get a dropsuit
Anoother great point for respecs!
+1 if you got that reference |
Smooth Assassin
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
64
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:08:00 -
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Got that. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
937
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:09:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:You must be new here. Everyone tries to use the FOTM- very few of us spec into whatever counters it.
Like right now- how many LRs and tactical ARs do you see to counter MDs? Very few.
The counter to MDs are shield tanked suits.
It's just not an effective counter because the MD is better than it was intended to be.
Sure vehicles are a counter as well, but we don't have respecs so how can people spec into them? |
Garm Hellhound
What The French
CRONOS.
6
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:10:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:Garm Hellhound wrote:Because this is new eden and choices should have consequences.
Also because ppl tend to respec into the OP fit when they have the occasion and thats what kills the game for others that stick to their fits/gamestyle.
And lastly, because it diverts technical resources and time away from actual development of the game . Not to mention all the people bitching and quitting the game because their respec is late or glitched..... blablabla
The first respec should never have happened
You seem to have ...computing... 0 likes Seems your opinion is not valid to many...
Or maybe its the first time i use this char to write in the forums now?
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Bittersteel the Bastard
WarRavens
League of Infamy
197
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:10:00 -
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I think there should just be one respec upon leaving the Academy (once they fix it) |
Ren Ratner
Infinite Raiders
74
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:10:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:Garm Hellhound wrote:Because this is new eden and choices should have consequences.
Also because ppl tend to respec into the OP fit when they have the occasion and thats what kills the game for others that stick to their fits/gamestyle.
And lastly, because it diverts technical resources and time away from actual development of the game . Not to mention all the people bitching and quitting the game because their respec is late or glitched..... blablabla
The first respec should never have happened
You seem to have ...computing... 0 likes Seems your opinion is not valid to many...
Or he rarely posts with that avatar. Who points out this crap? "You have 0 likes, you're worthless HURDUDURDURDUR". |
Another Heavy SOB
Pure Innocence.
EoN.
554
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:11:00 -
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Nicholas Silverton wrote:It's because people are afraid of FOTMers. This is stupid though because grinding to proto only takes a week and ccp takes their sweet Time buffing and nerfing
If it only took a week to skill into then why do you need a respec to skill something different?
It's the fact that being and idoit and failing to do your homework should not be rewarded. So what if there's No MLT version spend 12K SP to try it, if you see no potential for the weapon or item to be of use to you then do not skill it any further. If You do skill to proto and hate it well then that's your own damn fault.
Beyond that there is No maximum SP cap, therefore eventually all skills could be mastered. If we offered respecs constantly what would be the point of buying boosters for anyone above 20mill SP? Or even trying to cap out anymore?
I see alot of people saying "well MAG had respecs", yep it sure did. It also had a level cap at 60 with 60 skill point's while there were much more than 60 skills in the tree and as such one could never fill out all skills, Hence the respecs to try the skills you missed the first time around. |
Garm Hellhound
What The French
CRONOS.
6
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:12:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Garm Hellhound wrote:Because this is new eden and choices should have consequences.
Also because ppl tend to respec into the OP fit when they have the occasion and thats what kills the game for others that stick to their fits/gamestyle.
And lastly, because it diverts technical resources and time away from actual development of the game . Not to mention all the people bitching and quitting the game because their respec is late or glitched..... blablabla
The first respec should never have happened
Well the respec happened so what does that say about "New eden"? too many carebear in hisec
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Smooth Assassin
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
64
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:12:00 -
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Its not valid to alot |
Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
937
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:12:00 -
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Another Heavy SOB wrote:Beyond that there is No maximum SP cap, therefore eventually all skills could be mastered. If we offered respecs constantly what would be the point of buying boosters for anyone above 20mill SP? Or even trying to cap out anymore?
Who talks about constant respecs?
Respecs once in a while is what people want. I hope. |
Ren Ratner
Infinite Raiders
74
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:14:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Its not valid to alot
Alot just want to be left alone. |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
237
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:18:00 -
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Ren Ratner wrote:hackerzilla wrote:Garm Hellhound wrote:Because this is new eden and choices should have consequences.
Also because ppl tend to respec into the OP fit when they have the occasion and thats what kills the game for others that stick to their fits/gamestyle.
And lastly, because it diverts technical resources and time away from actual development of the game . Not to mention all the people bitching and quitting the game because their respec is late or glitched..... blablabla
The first respec should never have happened
You seem to have ...computing... 0 likes Seems your opinion is not valid to many... Or he rarely posts with that avatar. Who points out this crap? "You have 0 likes, you're worthless HURDUDURDURDUR".
Likes usually are a sign of agreement, therefor no-one agrees with him... |
Nemo Bluntz
TeamPlayers
EoN.
420
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:21:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Don't be hating.
Seriously why? what is the reason? personally i think it's cos you proto's are jealous cos you had to work hard for it, but you know that we all worked hard for our dropsuits too or maybe someone stupidly skilled into a plasma cannon and needs a respec maybe they don't like the HMG cos there isn't a MLT version.
Because it homogenizes the game. Get a respec, put your points to whatever is the strongest at the time, everyone does the same, thing gets nerfed, everyone cries for a respec so they can get the new current strongest thing in the game. Stop the repsecs, you start having people go into what they think will be fit their play style/fill in roles as opposed to just trying to be the very best suit at any given version of the game. |
Spycrab Potato
Hold-Your-Fire
274
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:21:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Nicholas Silverton wrote:It's because people are afraid of FOTMers. This is stupid though because grinding to proto only takes a week and ccp takes their sweet Time buffing and nerfing If they decided to grind to proto, they worked for it. Not if you just respec. Also, there's no way it takes a week. SP cap.
Do...Do you even play this game? Hitting cap and passive without boosters gives you under 400,000 a week. It takes 2.4 mil to go into a specialized proto suit. And that's if you already have the frames and dropsuit command.
Edit: Sorry person under that quote, quoted the wrong person. |
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