DUST Search - As a logibro, I need to be able to see my teammates health without having to aim...

broonfondle majikthies wrote:

ZDub 303 wrote:

broonfondle majikthies wrote:

ZDub 303 wrote:

broonfondle majikthies wrote:

You realise we haven't actually seen the changes yet? We can't speculate what it will be like until its here and we give it a try.

We can speculate all day... that's the definition of the word.

*sigh* I have dyslexia, give me a break. I'm struggling to get the words spelt right so you can understand. Grammar is a distant secondary priority.

You know what I mean, we have nothing to go on. Its all hearsay and conjecture and we won't know if it will work until we try it

This is what forums are for though, speculating on new changes and then giving feedback once we've tried them.

These kinds of posts are a good thing dude, encourage these types of posts. They are much more productive than whining and bitching about how you can no longer see health bars and you are quitting the game. Am I wrong?

I'm not discouraging the post, its a valid point that logi's need to be able to see players health but as this is a totally new system and we don't even have a screenshot of in game action post patch why should we assume you won't get enough information to know who to help? After all, from what little we do know, if you decided to run knives (mad I know) then you wouldn't get player feed until your right next to them, right? But all we have is a short description to go on. Who knows, it might be something easily adapted to.
and your right, not constructive to whine after the fact

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I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 679	Posted - 2013.08.23 15:03:00 - [1] - Quote With 1.4 I have no complaints. I actually see some great unexpected changes (Scrambler Rifle buff FTW), but I am worried about how easy it will be for me to see the health of allies. As of right now, it still takes some effort to aim at my teammates when they are far away...and even then, I can't easily tell who is in need of help and who isnt. I fully agree with the removal of friendly player icons from the sides of the screen, but how will this affect my ability to quickly address a situation? will I still be able to see friendlies' health when they are nearby? Or will my best bet be to find a random squad? I tend to work alone these days...and I don't just support my squad members even if I am in a squad. __________________________ I could be totally wrong here so excuse me if I have read the patch notes wrong...but this could be a big downside for me as a logi. Maybe the solution would be some more icons to represent a player that is below a certain % of armor who needs reps, similar to the icon for a downed player?
DS 10 Pure Innocence. EoN. 776	Posted - 2013.08.23 15:05:00 - [2] - Quote I think players with rep tools in their equipment slot should be able to see teammates' armor HP more easily than without a rep tool in the slot. I don't know how difficult that would be to implement though.
I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 679	Posted - 2013.08.23 15:07:00 - [3] - Quote DS 10 wrote: I think players with rep tools in their equipment slot should be able to see teammates' armor HP more easily than without a rep tool in the slot. I don't know how difficult that would be to implement though. Maybe the icon would only show up if you have a repair tool equipped
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3239	Posted - 2013.08.23 15:17:00 - [4] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: DS 10 wrote: I think players with rep tools in their equipment slot should be able to see teammates' armor HP more easily than without a rep tool in the slot. I don't know how difficult that would be to implement though. Maybe the icon would only show up if you have a repair tool equipped Just like with the Nanite Injector. Signal boost this ****. Get everyone in here so we can make this happen.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1778	Posted - 2013.08.23 15:20:00 - [5] - Quote Gonna need to start scanning your allies for sure now, and listen carefully for rep call outs from squadmates... Gonna be... interesting... for sure. I would totally support health bars showing when people have armor damage when you have a rep tool equipped, that would be a nice change.
DS 10 Pure Innocence. EoN. 779	Posted - 2013.08.23 15:25:00 - [6] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: DS 10 wrote: I think players with rep tools in their equipment slot should be able to see teammates' armor HP more easily than without a rep tool in the slot. I don't know how difficult that would be to implement though. Maybe the icon would only show up if you have a repair tool equipped Just like with the Nanite Injector. Signal boost this ****. Get everyone in here so we can make this happen. Yup. People already don't use reps very often. Even if it was just for your squad, it would help. Maybe have the teammate's chevron pulse like a heartbeat or something when they're below 30% of their armor.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3240	Posted - 2013.08.23 15:27:00 - [7] - Quote DS 10 wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: DS 10 wrote: I think players with rep tools in their equipment slot should be able to see teammates' armor HP more easily than without a rep tool in the slot. I don't know how difficult that would be to implement though. Maybe the icon would only show up if you have a repair tool equipped Just like with the Nanite Injector. Signal boost this ****. Get everyone in here so we can make this happen. Yup. People already don't use reps very often. Even if it was just for your squad, it would help. Maybe have the teammate's chevron pulse like a heartbeat or something when they're below 30% of their armor. That's another good suggestion. Allows a Logi player to see which players need their help most without having to pan around and waste time.
broonfondle majikthies P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 184	Posted - 2013.08.23 15:27:00 - [8] - Quote You realise we haven't actually seen the changes yet? We can't speculate what it will be like until its here and we give it a try.
RKKR The Southern Legion 325	Posted - 2013.08.23 15:28:00 - [9] - Quote Agreed. Oooh and CCP while you are at it, give the triage hives some love with a different color or something so the blueberries can swarm to it :) (this smiley is for you CCP Mintship, I hope you read this!)
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1778	Posted - 2013.08.23 15:29:00 - [10] - Quote broonfondle majikthies wrote: You realise we haven't actually seen the changes yet? We can't speculate what it will be like until its here and we give it a try. We can speculate all day... that's the definition of the word.

broonfondle majikthies P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 184	Posted - 2013.08.23 15:32:00 - [11] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: broonfondle majikthies wrote: You realise we haven't actually seen the changes yet? We can't speculate what it will be like until its here and we give it a try. We can speculate all day... that's the definition of the word. sigh I have dyslexia, give me a break. I'm struggling to get the words spelt right so you can understand. Grammar is a distant secondary priority. You know what I mean, we have nothing to go on. Its all hearsay and conjecture and we won't know if it will work until we try it
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1778	Posted - 2013.08.23 15:37:00 - [12] - Quote broonfondle majikthies wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: broonfondle majikthies wrote: You realise we haven't actually seen the changes yet? We can't speculate what it will be like until its here and we give it a try. We can speculate all day... that's the definition of the word. sigh I have dyslexia, give me a break. I'm struggling to get the words spelt right so you can understand. Grammar is a distant secondary priority. You know what I mean, we have nothing to go on. Its all hearsay and conjecture and we won't know if it will work until we try it This is what forums are for though, speculating on new changes and then giving feedback once we've tried them. These kinds of posts are a good thing dude, encourage these types of posts. They are much more productive than whining and bitching about how you can no longer see health bars and you are quitting the game. Am I wrong?
I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 684	Posted - 2013.08.23 15:54:00 - [13] - Quote Yeah, this post isn't here to tell CCP that they should have done A rather than B, but instead to bring up a perspective that they might not have looked at. For instance, the new system is great for assaults/heavies/scouts/sqauds who don't want blue dots cluttering up their HUD, but is bad for logistics who need to know where their teammates are at all times.
broonfondle majikthies P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 184	Posted - 2013.08.23 16:02:00 - [14] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: broonfondle majikthies wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: broonfondle majikthies wrote: You realise we haven't actually seen the changes yet? We can't speculate what it will be like until its here and we give it a try. We can speculate all day... that's the definition of the word. sigh I have dyslexia, give me a break. I'm struggling to get the words spelt right so you can understand. Grammar is a distant secondary priority. You know what I mean, we have nothing to go on. Its all hearsay and conjecture and we won't know if it will work until we try it This is what forums are for though, speculating on new changes and then giving feedback once we've tried them. These kinds of posts are a good thing dude, encourage these types of posts. They are much more productive than whining and bitching about how you can no longer see health bars and you are quitting the game. Am I wrong? I'm not discouraging the post, its a valid point that logi's need to be able to see players health but as this is a totally new system and we don't even have a screenshot of in game action post patch why should we assume you won't get enough information to know who to help? After all, from what little we do know, if you decided to run knives (mad I know) then you wouldn't get player feed until your right next to them, right? But all we have is a short description to go on. Who knows, it might be something easily adapted to. and your right, not constructive to whine after the fact
Jade Hasegawa Intrepidus XI EoN. 57	Posted - 2013.08.23 16:10:00 - [15] - Quote broonfondle majikthies wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: broonfondle majikthies wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: broonfondle majikthies wrote: You realise we haven't actually seen the changes yet? We can't speculate what it will be like until its here and we give it a try. We can speculate all day... that's the definition of the word. sigh I have dyslexia, give me a break. I'm struggling to get the words spelt right so you can understand. Grammar is a distant secondary priority. You know what I mean, we have nothing to go on. Its all hearsay and conjecture and we won't know if it will work until we try it This is what forums are for though, speculating on new changes and then giving feedback once we've tried them. These kinds of posts are a good thing dude, encourage these types of posts. They are much more productive than whining and bitching about how you can no longer see health bars and you are quitting the game. Am I wrong? I'm not discouraging the post, its a valid point that logi's need to be able to see players health but as this is a totally new system and we don't even have a screenshot of in game action post patch why should we assume you won't get enough information to know who to help? After all, from what little we do know, if you decided to run knives (mad I know) then you wouldn't get player feed until your right next to them, right? But all we have is a short description to go on. Who knows, it might be something easily adapted to. and your right, not constructive to whine after the fact Its an interesting change to be certain,my only concern I like knowing where the blueberries are on the team, I dont want to go into an objective without support, sometimes mey friends are not online and I dont want to be running solointo trouble soknowing a smurf or 2 are around helps me
Hawkings Greenback Red Star Jr. EoN. 72	Posted - 2013.08.23 16:12:00 - [16] - Quote broonfondle majikthies wrote: You realise we haven't actually seen the changes yet? We can't speculate what it will be like until its here and we give it a try. CCP have seen the changes & could explain a little better to avoid some of the problems we have seen over the recent months. Also there is nothing wrong with speculation & trying to better an idea before it is put in game.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws 736	Posted - 2013.08.23 16:13:00 - [17] - Quote How about you guys get a nanohive icon as well? I'd love to the shoot at you then at the ground but I'm out of ammo, and I certainly don't have time to send you an in-game message. =(

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 665	Posted - 2013.08.23 16:58:00 - [18] - Quote As a Logibro I support this thread. However, I'm also moving it to Feedback/Requests. CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics @CCP_Logibro

Skihids Bullet Cluster 1942	Posted - 2013.08.23 17:52:00 - [19] - Quote I've already retired the needle on most of my suits due to lack of use, I'd hate to come to the conclusion that the rep-tool isn't worth the slot too.
Draco Cerberus Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 258	Posted - 2013.08.23 19:11:00 - [20] - Quote Skihids wrote: I've already retired the needle on most of my suits due to lack of use, I'd hate to come to the conclusion that the rep-tool isn't worth the slot too. It really isn't...A movie a friend made about nano hives, notice the triage points in an ambush match

I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 686	Posted - 2013.08.23 20:13:00 - [21] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: As a Logibro I support this thread. However, I'm also moving it to Feedback/Requests. Thank you, I would have done it myself if I had the powers that be...
sQuatch78 Ametat Security Amarr Empire 6	Posted - 2013.08.23 20:20:00 - [22] - Quote Great post on this topic. Since we are wearing highly advanced dropsuits, its a bit odd that all suits have the same HUD. Maybe have role-specific HUDs that address these points. Logis could have icons of squad mates on the top or left/right of main view with health indicators. Think LoL/Dota2 overlays to get an idea. you don't have to reinvent the wheel every time CCP ;) cheers, sQuatch
Vin Vicious Capital Acquisitions LLC 291	Posted - 2013.08.23 20:34:00 - [23] - Quote If its possible, only show people's health bars if they have received armor damage
Lillica Deathdealer Mango and Friends 196	Posted - 2013.08.23 22:14:00 - [24] - Quote I agree with this. Wouldnt it be nice to make a change within the suits themselves, so logistics suits see this information while assault and other types dont? This could become a feature very important to distinguishing role types and discouraging their use as a different role, while not making it impossible. Because its the little things that count.
Cosgar ParagonX 4537	Posted - 2013.08.23 22:43:00 - [25] - Quote Draco Cerberus wrote: Skihids wrote: I've already retired the needle on most of my suits due to lack of use, I'd hate to come to the conclusion that the rep-tool isn't worth the slot too. It really isn't...A movie a friend made about nano hives, notice the triage points in an ambush match I run a similar fitting. That setup is legit.
Cross Atu Conspiratus Immortalis Covert Intervention 1637	Posted - 2013.08.26 16:25:00 - [26] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Draco Cerberus wrote: Skihids wrote: I've already retired the needle on most of my suits due to lack of use, I'd hate to come to the conclusion that the rep-tool isn't worth the slot too. It really isn't...A movie a friend made about nano hives, notice the triage points in an ambush match I run a similar fitting. That setup is legit. Yeah odd that the triage award is capped on the repair tool but not on the repair hives...
I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 699	Posted - 2013.08.26 20:38:00 - [27] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: Cosgar wrote: Draco Cerberus wrote: Skihids wrote: I've already retired the needle on most of my suits due to lack of use, I'd hate to come to the conclusion that the rep-tool isn't worth the slot too. It really isn't...A movie a friend made about nano hives, notice the triage points in an ambush match I run a similar fitting. That setup is legit. Yeah odd that the triage award is capped on the repair tool but not on the repair hives... Probably because you can't repair vehicles with them...
Sarducar Kahn xCosmic Voidx The Superpowers 55	Posted - 2013.08.26 21:23:00 - [28] - Quote As a drive and pilot I need to see the health of my gunners so I know when to run and save their suits. Please let me keep health bars for people in my vehicles. They might not have changed it, and shouldn't have but some confirmation would be lovely.
I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 699	Posted - 2013.08.26 21:44:00 - [29] - Quote Sarducar Kahn wrote: As a drive and pilot I need to see the health of my gunners so I know when to run and save their suits. Please let me keep health bars for people in my vehicles. They might not have changed it, and shouldn't have but some confirmation would be lovely. The best solution for this would be health bars down in the corner with your vehicle above each "dot" where a player is in the vehicle. They could also be color coded to represent who's almost dead, etc.
Princeps Marcellus Expert Intervention Caldari State 183	Posted - 2013.08.31 23:33:00 - [30] - Quote I'd also like it if we could see the actual armor units (180/180) that people have, because I'd really like to be able to focus my healing on armor tankers, and it would be great if there was a way to tell if someone was an armor tanker.



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