i cant remember last time i got killed by a FG
how do you get killed by FG?
you AFK?

My problem with them;

- Too easy to aim
- Ridiculous radius and splash damage

The Breach, like every other Breach weapon in the game, should be the most accurate, but have less splash damage and radius than all other variants.

The Assault, rapid fire, but should be the least accurate of them all, trading RoF for accuracy. (There are currently no cons to using the Assault variant, not being able to hold the charge isn't a bad enough trade-off for its increased damage and RoF, despite what players say)

Get a Heavy up on a tower, and every dropship called out onto the map becomes useless, something that could be avoided with falloff or more innacurate forges.

Any Heavy that says "But Forge Gunz r hard to aim" is terrible at the game and should give up.

Have you even used a forge gun? There's a giant blue glow at the end and no zoom. It took lots of practice to get good with a forge. The only really easy kills are when I'm above a player and they have no where to hide and didn't know that I was above them.

Lol.

2.5m radius.

You dont even have to hit them.

its not the same ammount of damage as a direct hit

The problem lies in your statement: "....if you put a heavy on a tower..."

Make the roof build kill who stand on top and we solve the problem. Join us "ground" forger and see by yourself how Ass.Forge is OP.

Camper's with thale aRE the same, ehm no they get a scope....

Yes.

But the splash does more damage than an Ishukone Sniper Rifle.

ROOFTOPS OP NERF NAO.

Seriously though, make all DS-accessible-only rooftops slippery. No equipment+limited ammo = bad sniping spot.

Also, removing the ability to hold a charge makes the AssForge less useful as a shotgun type weapon, but WAY more useful as an AV weapon. I typically hold the charge on my basic forge for a fraction longer than strictly necessary, for fear of losing the shot.

I haven't killed someone with FG splash in a long, long time.

i dont know aboot that but you have a scope for the sniper , you choose what body part to shoot and from far than FG

you reaching for straws

The fact the FG doesn't have a Scope doesn't at all hinder its effectivness Vs Infantry.

When its got incredible accuracy, near instant projectile speed, and a 2.5m radius with more damage than a Proto Sniper, the last thing you need is a scope.

do you make the difference between things?

or do you belive everything has to be the same with same function?

Are you a troll? Or just dense?

Inside 300m, forge on rooftops beats EVERYTHING. Now, it makes sense if they smash you with direct damage. It is designed to beat on tanks, after all. But the splash is stupid effective. Because I'm a scrub, I don't bother going for direct damage with a forge (can't be bothered putting in the hours of practice). I just get my DAU-2A with one damage mod and troll everything. I can cover an objective more effectively than a sniper. I can smash up tanks as efficiently as a pair of swarms.

Now, when you're on the flats it's a different story; a forge gunner who tears it up on the flats is a terrifying beast, and truly deserves his kills. It's challenging to get direct damage kills.


As I've already said in the thread, I think Forge Gun is fine. It's rooftops what need nerfing. It'd get rid of those annoying snipers, too.

My problem with them;

- Too easy to aim
- Ridiculous radius and splash damage

The Breach, like every other Breach weapon in the game, should be the most accurate, but have less splash damage and radius than all other variants.

The Assault, rapid fire, but should be the least accurate of them all, trading RoF for accuracy. (There are currently no cons to using the Assault variant, not being able to hold the charge isn't a bad enough trade-off for its increased damage and RoF, despite what players say)

Get a Heavy up on a tower, and every dropship called out onto the map becomes useless, something that could be avoided with falloff or more innacurate forges.

Any Heavy that says "But Forge Gunz r hard to aim" is terrible at the game and should give up.

I disagree with messing with accuracy. My IAFG only holds 19 rounds ATM, would be 20 but I have an issue with dropping 500k for one more round. If my accuracy is decreased, my ammo should increase.

No.

The accuracy on the Kalakiota/9K330 would stay the same.

Assault forges need a real con to trade off for their increased damage and RoF.

As for Forges where the charge can be held, they lose accuracy the longer the charge is held.

They have to hit their target.

MORE LADDERS!!!

My problem with them;

- Too easy to aim
- Ridiculous radius and splash damage

The Breach, like every other Breach weapon in the game, should be the most accurate, but have less splash damage and radius than all other variants.

The Assault, rapid fire, but should be the least accurate of them all, trading RoF for accuracy. (There are currently no cons to using the Assault variant, not being able to hold the charge isn't a bad enough trade-off for its increased damage and RoF, despite what players say)

Get a Heavy up on a tower, and every dropship called out onto the map becomes useless, something that could be avoided with falloff or more innacurate forges.

Any Heavy that says "But Forge Gunz r hard to aim" is terrible at the game and should give up.

No.

The accuracy on the Kalakiota/9K330 would stay the same.

Assault forges need a real con to trade off for their increased damage and RoF.

As for Forges where the charge can be held, they lose accuracy the longer the charge is held.

MORE LADDERS!!!

An alternative, make it like the original Planetside's Lancer. That was a long range precision AV gun with charge-up too. Has high accuracy but it de-stabilised as you moved the crosshair, needed to let it settle where you want the shot to go a half-second before it finishes charging.

In practice will slightly increase aiming time and make FGs easier to evade. They need to do more predictive tracking as opposed to active tracking, more leading is required and it has to be done earlier. Potential accuracy is unchanged, it's the ability to correct aim with extreme alacrity and precision that is lost.

Just throwing it out there.