It's a shame that every day more and more people get proto AV equipment but yet tanks still stay at a disadvantage.

One guy should not be able to take out a tank. I've seen it happen. Sure to weaker tanks mostly but still.

I can't get mad if i lose a tank to 6 guys.

But i believe it's totally reasonable for me to get mad at one guy that uses proto swarms and takes me out because he keeps following me and there is nothing i can do, or to that one guy sitting on a tower with a proto forge making my tank useless.

I LOL my pants off at all of the failhards who say an LLAV is more durable then a tank.


-GARBAGE-

My repair tool, my passive/active resistance modules, and my knowledge of the maps makes me one elusive beasts.

You should also see how my tank hugs LLAVs. I am Snuggles the Bear and I am about to soften that FABRIC!!!

Enough though.
LLAV's are easy to pop, just hard to solo, as a vehicle should be ESPECIALLY when its intended purpose is to stop and repair shields and armor. It is sad that people think that they should be easy to destroy especially when even the lower tier ones cost more than a single proto suit.

I CAN agree on scaling damage to suits based on speed, with the lowest speeds pushing people aside.
I CAN agree on vehicles taking a percentage of damage based on the type of suit hit, to force thought to engage.

I DON'T agree with nerfing resistance or shields.
I DON'T agree with nerfing speed/maneuverability.

Also, CCP should allow for more WPs for Logistic Vehicle roles, such as MCRU spawn ins, assists gained from scans, points for repairing armor and shields, and more!

Its severely lacking.

*note*
Seeing as most people INSTANTLY assume that any form of reasonable discussion about LLAVs means you are a dirty murder taxi user, I can refer you to Espeon or LordChaos who can tell you I am a tank operator and a dropship users.
Flying the ADS is like painting a masterpiece, and I am Michaelangelo, potential Aspbergers and everything.

Double Mary'd...

Today is not my day :(

I know that is the main reason I did it. I remember shooting at a Charybdis with militia swarms after the last respec and thinking that is was just a glitch that had made the swarms not register. Then I learned that they were more durable than any HAV you will ever see on the battlefield. Not only that but they go lightning fast and insta-kill you with a 3mph love tap from their bumpers.

Now I am not new to AV. I was dedicated AV back in Chromosome. Though, that meant a different thing back then. My job then was to keep LAV's away from objectives. Keep dropships from hovering over points and keeping HAV's away from infantry. Though, I never saw a reason to go past standard swarms. Reason was, I didn't need to destroy every vehicle on the enemy team, I just needed to hit them and make them run for the hills. To deter them. This is not the case in Uprising. People kept coming at you with free militia LAV's, even if they just had 1 armor left, they still came at you. LLAV's are worse. You can't even dent them with standard. That's why I HAD TO get proto Swarms, I had to destroy them as fast as possible. Why? Because I knew, know, that it is either me or them. They don't get scared the way they uses to in Chromosome, they won't stop till there dead... That's where I come in.

Who suffers from all this? Dropships and to a lower degree low tier HAV's. Unfortunately for them, AV will remain balanced as long as LLAV's remain the death machines they are.

Drop the price in for HAV and DS. And that should fix a lot of the QQ going on. people act like they never played any other vehicle FPS before. They are killing machines their too, but just are easily swatted down by two dedicated players and in some cases one dedicated player. But many don't whine about it, cause it costs them nothing. So lowering the price should ease that pain a bit.

If its swarms people are specing into then its to a higher degree on HAVs

It's a shame that every day more and more people get proto AV equipment but yet tanks still stay at a disadvantage.

One guy should not be able to take out a tank. I've seen it happen. Sure to weaker tanks mostly but still.

I can't get mad if i lose a tank to 6 guys.

But i believe it's totally reasonable for me to get mad at one guy that uses proto swarms and takes me out because he keeps following me and there is nothing i can do, or to that one guy sitting on a tower with a proto forge making my tank useless.

It's a shame that every day more and more people get proto AV equipment but yet tanks still stay at a disadvantage.

One guy should not be able to take out a tank. I've seen it happen. Sure to weaker tanks mostly but still.

I can't get mad if i lose a tank to 6 guys.

But i believe it's totally reasonable for me to get mad at one guy that uses proto swarms and takes me out because he keeps following me and there is nothing i can do, or to that one guy sitting on a tower with a proto forge making my tank useless.

I know that is the main reason I did it. I remember shooting at a Charybdis with militia swarms after the last respec and thinking that is was just a glitch that had made the swarms not register. Then I learned that they were more durable than any HAV you will ever see on the battlefield. Not only that but they go lightning fast and insta-kill you with a 3mph love tap from their bumpers.

Now I am not new to AV. I was dedicated AV back in Chromosome. Though, that meant a different thing back then. My job then was to keep LAV's away from objectives. Keep dropships from hovering over points and keeping HAV's away from infantry. Though, I never saw a reason to go past standard swarms. Reason was, I didn't need to destroy every vehicle on the enemy team, I just needed to hit them and make them run for the hills. To deter them. This is not the case in Uprising. People kept coming at you with free militia LAV's, even if they just had 1 armor left, they still came at you. LLAV's are worse. You can't even dent them with standard. That's why I HAD TO get proto Swarms, I had to destroy them as fast as possible. Why? Because I knew, know, that it is either me or them. They don't get scared the way they uses to in Chromosome, they won't stop till there dead... That's where I come in.

Who suffers from all this? Dropships and to a lower degree low tier HAV's. Unfortunately for them, AV will remain balanced as long as LLAV's remain the death machines they are.

I know that is the main reason I did it. I remember shooting at a Charybdis with militia swarms after the last respec and thinking that is was just a glitch that had made the swarms not register. Then I learned that they were more durable than any HAV you will ever see on the battlefield. Not only that but they go lightning fast and insta-kill you with a 3mph love tap from their bumpers.

Now I am not new to AV. I was dedicated AV back in Chromosome. Though, that meant a different thing back then. My job then was to keep LAV's away from objectives. Keep dropships from hovering over points and keeping HAV's away from infantry. Though, I never saw a reason to go past standard swarms. Reason was, I didn't need to destroy every vehicle on the enemy team, I just needed to hit them and make them run for the hills. To deter them. This is not the case in Uprising. People kept coming at you with free militia LAV's, even if they just had 1 armor left, they still came at you. LLAV's are worse. You can't even dent them with standard. That's why I HAD TO get proto Swarms, I had to destroy them as fast as possible. Why? Because I knew, know, that it is either me or them. They don't get scared the way they uses to in Chromosome, they won't stop till there dead... That's where I come in.

Who suffers from all this? Dropships and to a lower degree low tier HAV's. Unfortunately for them, AV will remain balanced as long as LLAV's remain the death machines they are.

I know that is the main reason I did it. I remember shooting at a Charybdis with militia swarms after the last respec

It's a shame that every day more and more people get proto AV equipment but yet tanks still stay at a disadvantage.

One guy should not be able to take out a tank. I've seen it happen. Sure to weaker tanks mostly but still.

I can't get mad if i lose a tank to 6 guys.

But i believe it's totally reasonable for me to get mad at one guy that uses proto swarms and takes me out because he keeps following me and there is nothing i can do, or to that one guy sitting on a tower with a proto forge making my tank useless.

But you can not nerf AV until you nerf LLAV's.

Regardless, one person should be able to destroy a tank, because it takes only one person to use them.

I don't usually run into more than one LLAV and their I find that RE works in taking em out. NOW THAT IS A BULL AND MATADOR SCENERIO. Sometimes I win, and sometimes I misjudge the distance.


As for tanks? LOL I've never shied away from letting everyone one know where I was on the field. Still don't. I use to haunt objectives. Now I do BOTH.

*Both. Like two places at same time!*

They know what it means. The other place I haunt is the enemys RED LINE. You won't have to go far to find me. If you find me.

*I'm sure the tattle tale of a tank guard you kill first will cry out your position..*

Maybe, but by that time, the tank has two choices. RECALL or LOSE IT.

As an ambulance driver and not a murder taxi I can say the durability needs to stay the same. Doing the job properly means being in the path of some heavy ordinance. I agree there needs to be more incentive to fulfil its intended role (though I get mail from tankers who can't believe how survivable they become with my help it doesn't fill my coffers, so I only pull it out for my squad)

P.S the troop repper is a joke, the best I can do is tag someone while they hack.. then I get shot -_-

HAVs are overpriced and should have their upper tier variants available.
Then again, they shouldn't be able to parallel park the mother ******* on top of every single objective in the game.
Same with LAVs. Every gap on the terrain and installations is conveniently just wide enough to cruise through.

**** them.

Blast on, Aztec.
I just picked up a Proto 'Tankcry' Duvolle Tactical Tear Bucket on the market that I'm itching to use.

LOL Cry elsewhere

You're joking right?
You either redline your kill-padder or you get on the forums and complain about how mistreated you and all of your little pilot buddies are. Then boast about your awesomeness.
STFU already.
Eat a greasy bag of *****.

QQ

Infantry like you wanted vehicles nerfed and it happened and now you do have to deal with redline tanks because you put them up ther

Cause and effect

I liked where tanks were in Chromosome. Probably could've even used resistance buffs.
The problem is CCP. Not infantry.
They ruined it. Not AV grenades (that everybody was fine with 4 months ago), not lolswarms (again, fine until Uprising), not even Forge Guns were a problem.
You guys got ******. No doubt in that. But we get it already. I'm assuming that CCP has as well by now.
My shotguns got ruined, too. Do I see 500 threads about it everyday? Or irrational spam threads about nerfing everything else?
No. We specced into other **** weapons and moved on or quit the game.

You guys run to the redline because your frontline tactics suck. This mentality of thinking gunners are useless and LLAV running reps as an annoyance is just like going into a squad of reds running solo infantry, no matter your experience level - you have prepared for failure by not utilizing all of the tools available to you.

You guys run to the redline because your frontline tactics suck. This mentality of thinking gunners are useless and LLAV running reps as an annoyance is just like going into a squad of reds running solo infantry, no matter your experience level - you have prepared for failure by not utilizing all of the tools available to you.

I LOL my pants off at all of the failhards who say an LLAV is more durable then a tank.


-GARBAGE-

My repair tool, my passive/active resistance modules, and my knowledge of the maps makes me one elusive beasts.

You should also see how my tank hugs LLAVs. I am Snuggles the Bear and I am about to soften that FABRIC!!!

Enough though.
LLAV's are easy to pop, just hard to solo, as a vehicle should be ESPECIALLY when its intended purpose is to stop and repair shields and armor. It is sad that people think that they should be easy to destroy especially when even the lower tier ones cost more than a single proto suit.

I CAN agree on scaling damage to suits based on speed, with the lowest speeds pushing people aside.
I CAN agree on vehicles taking a percentage of damage based on the type of suit hit, to force thought to engage.

I DON'T agree with nerfing resistance or shields.
I DON'T agree with nerfing speed/maneuverability.

Also, CCP should allow for more WPs for Logistic Vehicle roles, such as MCRU spawn ins, assists gained from scans, points for repairing armor and shields, and more!

Its severely lacking.

*note*
Seeing as most people INSTANTLY assume that any form of reasonable discussion about LLAVs means you are a dirty murder taxi user, I can refer you to Espeon or LordChaos who can tell you I am a tank operator and a dropship users.
Flying the ADS is like painting a masterpiece, and I am Michaelangelo, potential Aspbergers and everything.

you again?
just adapt already

I know that is the main reason I did it. I remember shooting at a Charybdis with militia swarms after the last respec and thinking that is was just a glitch that had made the swarms not register. Then I learned that they were more durable than any HAV you will ever see on the battlefield. Not only that but they go lightning fast and insta-kill you with a 3mph love tap from their bumpers.

Now I am not new to AV. I was dedicated AV back in Chromosome. Though, that meant a different thing back then. My job then was to keep LAV's away from objectives. Keep dropships from hovering over points and keeping HAV's away from infantry. Though, I never saw a reason to go past standard swarms. Reason was, I didn't need to destroy every vehicle on the enemy team, I just needed to hit them and make them run for the hills. To deter them. This is not the case in Uprising. People kept coming at you with free militia LAV's, even if they just had 1 armor left, they still came at you. LLAV's are worse. You can't even dent them with standard. That's why I HAD TO get proto Swarms, I had to destroy them as fast as possible. Why? Because I knew, know, that it is either me or them. They don't get scared the way they uses to in Chromosome, they won't stop till there dead... That's where I come in.

Who suffers from all this? Dropships and to a lower degree low tier HAV's. Unfortunately for them, AV will remain balanced as long as LLAV's remain the death machines they are.

Cause I am a vehicle operator and know my business canine symbol that also doubles as a term of endearment.

Kinda makes me sad how many people 'don't get it'.

It's a shame that every day more and more people get proto AV equipment but yet tanks still stay at a disadvantage.

One guy should not be able to take out a tank. I've seen it happen. Sure to weaker tanks mostly but still.

I can't get mad if i lose a tank to 6 guys.

But i believe it's totally reasonable for me to get mad at one guy that uses proto swarms and takes me out because he keeps following me and there is nothing i can do, or to that one guy sitting on a tower with a proto forge making my tank useless.

I think the best think is fix the text right now to properly show where there repairs are at now.

No need to bring the reps in line with the text.

The reps where they are now are what allows us to even be competitive.



I roll my eyes at the AV's who want to nerf the repairs.
You guys are funny wanting to solo well built vehicles.

Collision damage doesn't REALLY bug me, because I am in my tank mostly.

As for the person who said a tank hid through the barrage of three proto AV, he is one lucky SOB. Not saying it is impossible, but you guys messed up on your coordination. 3 proto AVs, properly coordinated, can take out most tanks. Just saying.
Also, pics or it didn't happen.

Anyways, happy hunting.

LLAV'S made people get proto AV

I LOL my pants off at all of the failhards who say an LLAV is more durable then a tank.


-GARBAGE-

My repair tool, my passive/active resistance modules, and my knowledge of the maps makes me one elusive beasts.

You should also see how my tank hugs LLAVs. I am Snuggles the Bear and I am about to soften that FABRIC!!!

Enough though.
LLAV's are easy to pop, just hard to solo, as a vehicle should be ESPECIALLY when its intended purpose is to stop and repair shields and armor. It is sad that people think that they should be easy to destroy especially when even the lower tier ones cost more than a single proto suit.

I CAN agree on scaling damage to suits based on speed, with the lowest speeds pushing people aside.
I CAN agree on vehicles taking a percentage of damage based on the type of suit hit, to force thought to engage.

I DON'T agree with nerfing resistance or shields.
I DON'T agree with nerfing speed/maneuverability.

Also, CCP should allow for more WPs for Logistic Vehicle roles, such as MCRU spawn ins, assists gained from scans, points for repairing armor and shields, and more!

Its severely lacking.

*note*
Seeing as most people INSTANTLY assume that any form of reasonable discussion about LLAVs means you are a dirty murder taxi user, I can refer you to Espeon or LordChaos who can tell you I am a tank operator and a dropship users.
Flying the ADS is like painting a masterpiece, and I am Michaelangelo, potential Aspbergers and everything.

Unfortunately until anti vehicle vehicles are available av will continue to dominate, after that av should be to prey on the stupid tankers, it should be enough to scare someone away, and kill them if they don't!

2 Proto Forge guns and 1 Proto swarms CAN be taken, if you are in an ARMOR tank.
Yeah he barely survived but he did activate his regen stuff enough to barely survive, plus he only had like 5000+ ish armor,ive seen tanks with 8k....

I dont know whats the big surprise.....If you really dont believe a tank can survive 3 proto av simultaneously then you are delusional and need to play as infantry a little more. See how good you can do vs tanks while you ALSO have infantry shooting at you. (im talking about GOOD tanks not militia crap ok?)

I DO AGREE TANKS NEED A BUFF, this buff being a price reduction of (approximately) 1/3 .
Tanks cant be buffed MORE.
They already take a lot of specialization and organization to take down,and only 1 Tanker to wreak havok.
If you Buff them more in any way we will end up with ALL infantry going AV or vehicles.

But a price reduction is fair since the cost of getting a good tank is a little HIGH for their actual performance.