DUST Search - At 21 Million sp, I will have "maxed" out my character.

I-Shayz-I wrote:

I am currently at 18.7 million sp

What I mean by this is that I won't have anything worthwhile left to put sp into. Sure, there are more levels I could throw sp into to make my weapons or dropsuits SLIGHTLY better, but I'd rather not waste millions of sp just to make my guns use up one less pg...or something.

Vehicles are not my thing, so I haven't put a single point into them. I have the watch saga anyways...

To better explain, here's what I have calculated I will have at 21 million sp

-All passives such as armor, shields, biotics, engineering, etc. at level 4 (electronics and hacking at 5)
-Complex extenders and plates, as well as complex energizers and repairers
-Complex damage mods, hacking mods,
-1 proto dropsuit, 1 advanced dropsuit (Logistics mk.0, Commando A-1 series)
-4 prototype weapons all with at least proficiency 3 (Scrambler Rifle, Mass Driver, HMG, Forge Gun)
-2 prototype equipment (repair tool and drop uplink)
_____________________

The idea here is that I will have 4 effective roles that I can switch to on the battlefield to help my team. I can be a long range support medic, a close quarters speed hacker, an AV specialist, or a defensive pusher.

What's your opinion? Should I have focused my skills more to become the ultimate logi instead of branching off to the heavy class? Should I start to skill into other roles to be more versatile? What about trying new weapons and equipment?

I'm just surprised that I'm this far already.

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I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 663	Posted - 2013.08.21 03:22:00 - [1] - Quote I am currently at 18.7 million sp What I mean by this is that I won't have anything worthwhile left to put sp into. Sure, there are more levels I could throw sp into to make my weapons or dropsuits SLIGHTLY better, but I'd rather not waste millions of sp just to make my guns use up one less pg...or something. Vehicles are not my thing, so I haven't put a single point into them. I have the watch saga anyways... To better explain, here's what I have calculated I will have at 21 million sp -All passives such as armor, shields, biotics, engineering, etc. at level 4 (electronics and hacking at 5) -Complex extenders and plates, as well as complex energizers and repairers -Complex damage mods, hacking mods, -1 proto dropsuit, 1 advanced dropsuit (Logistics mk.0, Commando A-1 series) -4 prototype weapons all with at least proficiency 3 (Scrambler Rifle, Mass Driver, HMG, Forge Gun) -2 prototype equipment (repair tool and drop uplink) _____________________ The idea here is that I will have 4 effective roles that I can switch to on the battlefield to help my team. I can be a long range support medic, a close quarters speed hacker, an AV specialist, or a defensive pusher. What's your opinion? Should I have focused my skills more to become the ultimate logi instead of branching off to the heavy class? Should I start to skill into other roles to be more versatile? What about trying new weapons and equipment? I'm just surprised that I'm this far already.
Aizen Intiki Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 468	Posted - 2013.08.21 03:24:00 - [2] - Quote Well, you might as well save up for other things. As for the Logi thing, yea, you should have went for it more.
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1049	Posted - 2013.08.21 03:31:00 - [3] - Quote An extra 6% damage to guns is helpful, and get more equipment.
Thumb Green Novashift 305	Posted - 2013.08.21 03:36:00 - [4] - Quote Become the ultimate logi and gain the admiration of all. I might have reppers on my suit already but when I'm down I still enjoy the attention of a logi's proto injector & love rod.
IceShifter Childhaspawn DUST University Ivy League 198	Posted - 2013.08.21 04:09:00 - [5] - Quote Go all the way. If you want a sink, that isn't too useless, go for turrets. Dedicated gunners are still pretty rare.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1219	Posted - 2013.08.21 04:30:00 - [6] - Quote I would have mine maxed out...IF CCP DECIDED TO GIVE ME A GALLENTE SIDEARM ALREADY.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 3666	Posted - 2013.08.21 04:53:00 - [7] - Quote Things to save up for when they arrive... 1. Cloaking modules - According to CCP, it's probably a predator-style cloak 2. Fighters 3. Speeders 4. Portable Bubble Shields - According to CCP, it's probably a Halo-style bubble shield 5. More racial suits and weapons
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster 743	Posted - 2013.08.21 05:03:00 - [8] - Quote I'm at 21 and I wish I had 28...I need so for vehicles...and other weapons...also...I really wanna spec into Amarr suits..,they...are...awesome.
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 561	Posted - 2013.08.21 05:13:00 - [9] - Quote I don't know why people power grind so hard for SP after a certain point. They complain for respecs, but at that point, it doesn't take much to max something new. Invest in cores people.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 526	Posted - 2013.08.21 05:20:00 - [10] - Quote Gimme all of my racial suits and bump that to about 40 or 50m. It would be nice to pick from solid Heavy, Logi, Assault, or Scout suits whenever the situation calls for it.

lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 924	Posted - 2013.08.21 05:31:00 - [11] - Quote I added up my time this build and I have taken a 2 month break in all not reaching my SP cap in 3 months and still sit at 17.5 million sp..... more sp does not make the game any better :)
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 955	Posted - 2013.08.21 12:44:00 - [12] - Quote Nice OP As a counter i am a vehicle user with access to all vehicles currently except ADS and scout LAVs I have nearly all support skills at lvl5 except lol engineering not 25% PG extra for me unlike dropsuits We do not have adv/proto mods which i assume will be level 3 and 5 to access, unlike infantry We do not have adv/proto hulls which will take level 3 and 5 to access, unlike infantry When we do get these it will be more SP added to the total Thats not including a pilot dropsuit and any new mods that may work with the dropsuit Sitting at 22mil SP (i have 5 mil saved for the pilot suit) i have not yet gained access to adv/proto mods or hulls but routinely in pub matches and PC matches im against adv/proto AV nearly every game no matter what vehicle i choose to bring out OP on the other hand with 21mil invested roughly the same as my SP amount he will be able to do several roles at adv/proto level and can compete and engage with everything currently on the field in pub and PC matches while being more versitile at the touch of a button at a supply depot This isnt a dig at OP but more of a highlight to show how far vehicles are behind
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 766	Posted - 2013.08.21 12:52:00 - [13] - Quote once I cap out which will be 26 million sp for me, I will begin speccing into another role...most likely I will start speccing into vehicles or an armor based AR fit.
XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 206	Posted - 2013.08.21 12:57:00 - [14] - Quote I feel so under trained at 12.2mill...
Argo Filch Cannonfodder PMC 46	Posted - 2013.08.21 13:29:00 - [15] - Quote When and if this game reaches the point where stuff like armor and shield tanking are differentiated, and you have an organized group/squad/team that dictates armor tank for a match, you would be more viable in a gal logi suit. Or if shield is called for you'd do better in a cal logi suit. But as long as all the suits are just a mishmash of the same old same old it makes not much sense to skill into other suits... but there might be a time when this is. I for myself plan to eventually skill into all racial logistic suits. So i will most certainly not be done at 21mil SP.
THE TRAINSPOTTER ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN 179	Posted - 2013.08.21 13:31:00 - [16] - Quote so who kills you?
KingBabar Ancient Exiles 1057	Posted - 2013.08.21 14:08:00 - [17] - Quote Well I look at it a little different, at least to whats "maxed out". I calculate that as a Logi I'll need roughly 30 M skillpoints to max that role out, with 1 gun and nades. Just to mention some: -4 kinds of proto equioment - All passive skills at lvl 5 - All AR skills at lvl 5. Even though it might seem silly to use about 3.6 M skillpoints just for the two skills AR fittting optimisation and AR reload speed, I still want them. Since I use 1 prot CPU extender on all my Logi fits, PG becomes the factor that stops me from putting more fancy stuff on. But getting the last 2 PG out of the suit by lowering the gun fitting cost I might go from a basic to an advanced needle, and the same goes for regulators, bunny hop extenders and so on. As long as you can fit the suit better, its worth it IMO. Another thing is that doing it "the hard way", getting all those very expensive but low output skills taken care of now, will let me fit future assault suits or whatever to the max right off the bat. I also go into armor plates and other stuff that I don't really use ATM, but if I want to spec into an armor tanked suit later on, all the support skills are bought and ready. Other than whats been mentioned I would also take this time inbetween content release and "finished roles" to take stuff like extra hacking speed, better stealth, better counter stealth, CPU skills of weapons and grenades and so on. I think that I'll pass 40 M skillpoints before I actually run out of decent stuff to spec into, by that time, most likely we'll have more content to spec into. Then I will start on either another suit or a sidearm in preparation for another suit...
Beren Hurin The Vanguardians 1133	Posted - 2013.08.21 14:11:00 - [18] - Quote IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote: Go all the way. If you want a sink, that isn't too useless, go for turrets. Dedicated gunners are still pretty rare. Turrets are based on the skill of the user? Not the driver?
NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 350	Posted - 2013.08.21 14:13:00 - [19] - Quote I think you gotta be Close to 30 mil to be satisfied
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8	Posted - 2013.08.21 14:40:00 - [20] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: I think you gotta be Close to 30 mil to be satisfied Hard to wrap my head around this since I'm sitting at about 3.2mil SP. Pretty daunting actually.

ROADKILLURAZZ MURDER TAXI COMPANY 86	Posted - 2013.08.21 14:46:00 - [21] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I am currently at 18.7 million sp What I mean by this is that I won't have anything worthwhile left to put sp into. Sure, there are more levels I could throw sp into to make my weapons or dropsuits SLIGHTLY better, but I'd rather not waste millions of sp just to make my guns use up one less pg...or something. Vehicles are not my thing, so I haven't put a single point into them. I have the watch saga anyways... To better explain, here's what I have calculated I will have at 21 million sp -All passives such as armor, shields, biotics, engineering, etc. at level 4 (electronics and hacking at 5) -Complex extenders and plates, as well as complex energizers and repairers -Complex damage mods, hacking mods, -1 proto dropsuit, 1 advanced dropsuit (Logistics mk.0, Commando A-1 series) -4 prototype weapons all with at least proficiency 3 (Scrambler Rifle, Mass Driver, HMG, Forge Gun) -2 prototype equipment (repair tool and drop uplink) _____________________ The idea here is that I will have 4 effective roles that I can switch to on the battlefield to help my team. I can be a long range support medic, a close quarters speed hacker, an AV specialist, or a defensive pusher. What's your opinion? Should I have focused my skills more to become the ultimate logi instead of branching off to the heavy class? Should I start to skill into other roles to be more versatile? What about trying new weapons and equipment? I'm just surprised that I'm this far already. I hit that mark months ago! Take a break and come back in a year!
I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 665	Posted - 2013.08.21 19:52:00 - [22] - Quote THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote: so who kills you? Depends on which fitting I'm using. Every fitting and weapon has a weakness. If I'm running my logi, grenades, snipers, and vehicles are my major weakness as they often come as a surprise to me. As a heavy, shotguns, assault rifles, and mass drivers can chew me up as there's no way I can dodge their bullets as much or run away from them to get a better angle.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 7589	Posted - 2013.08.21 20:05:00 - [23] - Quote you could go about sampling other play styles or as some folks here said store your SP for future features and acquire isk in the meantime. You can also take a break come back later.
Cosgar ParagonX 4492	Posted - 2013.08.21 20:13:00 - [24] - Quote Sitting on 12.5 million with a maxed out grenadier/support logi role and after ~1.5 million, I'll have my speedy hacker logi maxed out. (Assuming I still have my bonus after 1.4) After that, I'm saving my SP for the combat rifle and working on core vehicle skills when the Minmatar LAV comes out.
I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 665	Posted - 2013.08.21 20:35:00 - [25] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: you could go about sampling other play styles or as some folks here said store your SP for future features and acquire isk in the meantime. You can also take a break come back later. I think it's funny when people suggest to me that I should take a break. There's no other game out right now with a better medic class with an awesome medgun. None. Zero. Nada. The last one was Resistance 2 co-op (TF2 isn't my thing), and now I'm here waiting for either Destiny or Battlefront 3. The only other ones are for PC, and I don't exactly want to get a gaming PC just to try them. ____________________ As for actually replying to your post...I have tried out many different playstyles with a bunch of different alternate accounts that I created way back in the closed beta. I currently have 4 other characters at about 5-6 million sp: -A dedicated heavy class (this is where I found out I liked the heavy role) -A dedicated vehicle specialist (I never really found tanks that fun, LAVs and dropships have no wp potential besides being cheap) -A sniper/long range/sneaky scout gallente class (after 1.2 shotgun scouts seemed useless, and i had no idea if the modules were working, and I could never do well with a sniper) -A super speedy shield recharge class (started with minmatar scout and kin cats and shield mods, turned into caldari assault with shield regulators) My logi character turned split off into a heavy specialist and now I get around 2k+ wp per match because I can take out waves of enemies and tanks if needed, then switch back to support the front lines, or hack a few objectives and switch the odds in our favor, all while constantly earning wp. But yeah, maybe I will start saving up for say a Caldari/minmatar heavy (or commando class :D), or maybe even the next heavy weapon.
Marek Seven Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2013.08.21 20:38:00 - [26] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I am currently at 18.7 million sp What I mean by this is that I won't have anything worthwhile left to put sp into. Sure, there are more levels I could throw sp into to make my weapons or dropsuits SLIGHTLY better, but I'd rather not waste millions of sp just to make my guns use up one less pg...or something. Vehicles are not my thing, so I haven't put a single point into them. I have the watch saga anyways... To better explain, here's what I have calculated I will have at 21 million sp -All passives such as armor, shields, biotics, engineering, etc. at level 4 (electronics and hacking at 5) -Complex extenders and plates, as well as complex energizers and repairers -Complex damage mods, hacking mods, -1 proto dropsuit, 1 advanced dropsuit (Logistics mk.0, Commando A-1 series) -4 prototype weapons all with at least proficiency 3 (Scrambler Rifle, Mass Driver, HMG, Forge Gun) -2 prototype equipment (repair tool and drop uplink) _____________________ The idea here is that I will have 4 effective roles that I can switch to on the battlefield to help my team. I can be a long range support medic, a close quarters speed hacker, an AV specialist, or a defensive pusher. What's your opinion? Should I have focused my skills more to become the ultimate logi instead of branching off to the heavy class? Should I start to skill into other roles to be more versatile? What about trying new weapons and equipment? I'm just surprised that I'm this far already. Get weapon proficiency as high as possible - every little bit of damage helps.
Epicsting pro Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 184	Posted - 2013.08.21 20:43:00 - [27] - Quote I want my amarrian heavy aircraft all ready and laser turrets, and a nitro bomb to burn the heathens with, I can see it now a noob walking along when a bright spot light fall apon him he looks up in aww, and disintegrate under form 4 lasers.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster 247	Posted - 2013.08.21 20:46:00 - [28] - Quote You're logi and not skilled into nanohives and nanite injectors!? For shame on you sir! J/K but I would suggest putting points into nano tech
I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 666	Posted - 2013.08.21 21:20:00 - [29] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: You're logi and not skilled into nanohives and nanite injectors!? For shame on you sir! J/K but I would suggest putting points into nano tech I have level 3 nanocircuitry Better nanite injectors are horrible as they both take up more cpu/pg AND give you less wp potential in the long run. I always run milita or standard. There's no reason to skill past the K-2's as they cost way too much pg/cpu, and the repair ones have to heal you first before they give you ammo. By the time they've healed you, you have wasted time, died, or run out of nanite clusters to actually get ammo from them. I run standard 80% of the time, and the K-2 if I have extra room on my suit. So no, putting another 700k sp into them just to use prototype is worthless to me. ____________________ Basically, at the respec I chose two equipment to skill to proto. That turned out to be the repair tool for the core repair tool (105/s FTW), and uplinks for the ones that can drop 3 at a time, and the allotek stable (prototype uplink at advanced pg/cpu cost) Now that I think about it, I should have only skilled to level 4 repair tool (BDR-8 is amazing) and level 2 uplink (stable uplinks are where it's at), but at the time I wanted to help out as much as possible in PC so yeah... _____________________ As a last point, if the nanocircuitry skill helped make nanohives and injectors better, then I would have absolutely maxed that skill out...but all the skill does is unlock stuff...
Silas Swakhammer GamersForChrist Orion Empire 69	Posted - 2013.08.21 21:27:00 - [30] - Quote A heavy... on a speeder... quick hacking everything. Oh yes.



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