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Beren Hurin The Vanguardians 1128	Posted - 2013.08.20 18:34:00 - [1] - Quote If there would have been a time to announce shifting to PS4 it would have been during Sony's press conference this afternoon. It wasn't mentioned at all. So we may be able to surmise that that won't be a priority for 2014.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 515	Posted - 2013.08.20 18:41:00 - [2] - Quote Next summer-ish, I suspect. This PS3 run is their "Adapt or Die" model at work. I think they've learned a valuable lesson or 2 in how consoles and their communities operate. Hope to see the Carbon built version on those PS4s.
Thumb Green Novashift 299	Posted - 2013.08.20 18:44:00 - [3] - Quote I'm pretty sure they said before that they weren't going to be on the ps4 when it came out, a while ago; but I could be mistaken.
HYENAKILLER X TEAM SHINOBI 187	Posted - 2013.08.20 18:45:00 - [4] - Quote I talked to the ceo and devs. Everything is fiing according to plan. Youre welcome for the insight and leadership that my high level connections have provided.
Beren Hurin The Vanguardians 1128	Posted - 2013.08.20 18:49:00 - [5] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: I talked to the ceo and devs. Everything is fiing according to plan. Youre welcome for the insight and leadership that my high level connections have provided. So nothing special at their booth?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 3637	Posted - 2013.08.20 18:52:00 - [6] - Quote The thing you have to remember is how the console market actually works. It's a known fact that many players will flock to the PS4, but a great number of other players will not really ditch their old consoles for probably the next 2-3 years. Even the PS Vita didn't immediately replace the PSP until about a year or two later mainly because of the price and lack of games when it first launched while the PSP is still a favorite among almost every PS fan because it can easily be hacked (as in jail breaking like you would a smartphone) and has a nearly unlimited line up of games for the PSP. Of course, the PS Vita eventually caught on with the PSP in terms of available games. The PS3 also took a long while to replace the PS2 mainly because of the hefty price tag it had back then. $500 is not something most people would drop on a whim for a console these days. Now, considering that the PS4 now has a strong line up of games already at this stage and has an affordable price tag of $399, I can see the PS4 taking less time to replace the PS3 than the PS3 did to the PS2.
R F Gyro Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 463	Posted - 2013.08.20 18:54:00 - [7] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Next summer-ish, I suspect. 5/14
Amarrian Desperado Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 17	Posted - 2013.08.20 18:55:00 - [8] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Next summer-ish, I suspect. 5/14 5/14/14 05:14:14 GMT
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 516	Posted - 2013.08.20 18:56:00 - [9] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Next summer-ish, I suspect. 5/14 True. Because that worked so well last time.
Purona The Vanguardians 38	Posted - 2013.08.20 18:57:00 - [10] - Quote I'm going to say this again. Being on PS4 will not make dust 514 automatically a better game. Since this games problems can not be solved with better graphics.

R F Gyro Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 463	Posted - 2013.08.20 19:01:00 - [11] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: R F Gyro wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Next summer-ish, I suspect. 5/14 True. Because that worked so well last time. However, May 2014 will be one year from Dust's official launch on the PS/3. Anyone care to guess what CCP's "PS/3 exclusive" deal with Sony will have stipulated?
lordjanuz Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men. 176	Posted - 2013.08.20 19:08:00 - [12] - Quote Purona wrote: I'm going to say this again. Being on PS4 will not make dust 514 automatically a better game. Since this games problems can not be solved with better graphics. I do think they should switch as soon as possible, Even you like it or not graphics is very important, and since we are in 2013 I should expect great graphic and good gameplay.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 2657	Posted - 2013.08.20 19:09:00 - [13] - Quote Purona wrote: I'm going to say this again. Being on PS4 will not make dust 514 automatically a better game. Since this games problems can not be solved with better graphics. Among the game's problems is lag, though, which could potentially be solved.
LOADED'HORN Raven Accord Black Core Alliance 3	Posted - 2013.08.20 19:14:00 - [14] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Next summer-ish, I suspect. 5/14 I have had that thought since the PS4 was announced. Hope it happens! 5/14/14.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 3639	Posted - 2013.08.20 19:17:00 - [15] - Quote lordjanuz wrote: Purona wrote: I'm going to say this again. Being on PS4 will not make dust 514 automatically a better game. Since this games problems can not be solved with better graphics. I do think they should switch as soon as possible, Even you like it or not graphics is very important, and since we are in 2013 I should expect great graphic and good gameplay. Graphics may play an important role, but gameplay and balanced mechanics are far more important than. It's too easy nowadays to make a shiny-looking game, but making the gameplay and mechanics excellent and balanced is the hardest part of all. And if the gameplay sucks and the mechanics are broken as hell then no one will like it.
Cosgar ParagonX 4431	Posted - 2013.08.20 19:20:00 - [16] - Quote I think Dust is in a good place by not being on PS4 at launch. This gives them extra time to learn the hardware, learn from launch titles' mistakes and successes, and work harder to put out a better product. Just keep in mind that Dust will never be superior to other established games out there, but as long as its a legit competitor despite being a free title, that's a goal worth achieving. People will get bored buying the newest military based arcade FPS and DLC packs in attempt to keep it fresh. But eventually they'll see this free Sci-Fi MMOFPS (That's more than a lobby shooter by then) and give it a try, finding something new and interesting enough to keep them coming back for more.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 3639	Posted - 2013.08.20 19:20:00 - [17] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Purona wrote: I'm going to say this again. Being on PS4 will not make dust 514 automatically a better game. Since this games problems can not be solved with better graphics. Among the game's problems is lag, though, which could potentially be solved. A better console won't help if the battle servers are having problems. It's like upgrading from Dial Up to cable while Comcast is having problems with maintaining a steady service.
Purona The Vanguardians 39	Posted - 2013.08.20 19:25:00 - [18] - Quote lordjanuz wrote: Purona wrote: I'm going to say this again. Being on PS4 will not make dust 514 automatically a better game. Since this games problems can not be solved with better graphics. I do think they should switch as soon as possible, Even you like it or not graphics is very important, and since we are in 2013 I should expect great graphic and good gameplay. The game has been in development for over 4 years and they cant even get all the suits vehicles and weapons in the game 3 months ago they only had concept art for vehicles most of the vehicles, drop suits and weapons . not only that they made an excuse as to why they couldn't give custom keyboard mapping Lastly when people complain its not about graphics. Its game play and content and neither of those will get fixed by going to Playstation 4 or PC if anything it would just slow down the process even more
R F Gyro Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 465	Posted - 2013.08.20 19:29:00 - [19] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: A better console won't help if the battle servers are having problems. It's like upgrading from Dial Up to cable while Comcast is having problems with maintaining a steady service. Are there any indications that there are server-side problems? Client-side, sure, CCP already admitted this. Network latency issues, absolutely. But I haven't seen any indications that the battle servers themselves can't cope.
R'adeh Hunt The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 338	Posted - 2013.08.20 19:34:00 - [20] - Quote Love the uninformed speculation going on in this thread...

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 3643	Posted - 2013.08.20 19:44:00 - [21] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: A better console won't help if the battle servers are having problems. It's like upgrading from Dial Up to cable while Comcast is having problems with maintaining a steady service. Are there any indications that there are server-side problems? Client-side, sure, CCP already admitted this. Network latency issues, absolutely. But I haven't seen any indications that the battle servers themselves can't cope. I'm not sure how they work exactly. I only referenced the battle servers as an example. My point is that it won't matter if the console is better than the old one if there are any problem with the connection in general. In the case of Dust and it's occasional disconnects and glitched SP earning (negative SP anyone?) and stuff like that, who is to say these problems won't carry over to the PS4 when the time comes? This is why it's important for CCP to stabilize everything first before porting over to the new console.
Purona The Vanguardians 39	Posted - 2013.08.20 19:55:00 - [22] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: A better console won't help if the battle servers are having problems. It's like upgrading from Dial Up to cable while Comcast is having problems with maintaining a steady service. Are there any indications that there are server-side problems? Client-side, sure, CCP already admitted this. Network latency issues, absolutely. But I haven't seen any indications that the battle servers themselves can't cope. https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=SPldrBIEnJ5hNf5bDBahRZic-k3Rh-Bs_n&v=aKYglEoJyNc&feature=player_detailpage&t=2146
Poonmunch DUST University Ivy League 199	Posted - 2013.08.20 19:57:00 - [23] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: If there would have been a time to announce shifting to PS4 it would have been during Sony's press conference this afternoon. It wasn't mentioned at all. So we may be able to surmise that that won't be a priority for 2014. Did they release a complete list of all the stuff that will be on PS4? If they didn't maybe we still have some hope. Munch
Rowdy Railgunner TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 36	Posted - 2013.08.20 20:02:00 - [24] - Quote Cosgar wrote: I think Dust is in a good place by not being on PS4 at launch. This gives them extra time to learn the hardware, They have been working with the hardware for 10+ years. Going to PS4/XBOXONE will be far easier for all developers than it has ever been in the history of past consoles.
Vin Vicious Capital Acquisitions LLC 267	Posted - 2013.08.20 20:04:00 - [25] - Quote I feel sorry for the people that pre ordered or plan on getting the PS4 during its first six months, you have no idea the pain and frustration you're going to recieve
Vin Vicious Capital Acquisitions LLC 267	Posted - 2013.08.20 20:05:00 - [26] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Cosgar wrote: I think Dust is in a good place by not being on PS4 at launch. This gives them extra time to learn the hardware, They have been working with the hardware for 10+ years. Going to PS4/XBOXONE will be far easier for all developers than it has ever been in the history of past consoles. Carbon engine has not been around for 10years just so were clear
Cosgar ParagonX 4436	Posted - 2013.08.20 20:07:00 - [27] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Cosgar wrote: I think Dust is in a good place by not being on PS4 at launch. This gives them extra time to learn the hardware, learn from launch titles' mistakes and successes, and work harder to put out a better product. Just keep in mind that Dust will never be superior to other established games out there, but as long as its a legit competitor despite being a free title, that's a goal worth achieving. People will get bored buying the newest military based arcade FPS and DLC packs in attempt to keep it fresh. But eventually they'll see this free Sci-Fi MMOFPS (That's more than a lobby shooter by then) and give it a try, finding something new and interesting enough to keep them coming back for more. They have been working with the hardware for 10+ years. Going to PS4/XBOXONE will be far easier for all developers than it has ever been in the history of past consoles. Quote the whole thing please.
sammus420 Goonfeet Top Men. 287	Posted - 2013.08.20 20:09:00 - [28] - Quote Poonmunch wrote: Did they release a complete list of all the stuff that will be on PS4? They also said lots of things would make it into the official PS3 launch with uprising. Of those things, barely any made it in.
BursegSardaukar Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 227	Posted - 2013.08.20 20:09:00 - [29] - Quote Wait... if they weren't part of the PS4 announcments... but this was stated... OMG HL3 CONFIRMED! erm.. I mean:PC DUST514 CONFIRMED!
Bettie Boop 2100190003 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 106	Posted - 2013.08.20 20:11:00 - [30] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: A better console won't help if the battle servers are having problems. It's like upgrading from Dial Up to cable while Comcast is having problems with maintaining a steady service. Stop the presses, Comcast stopped having problems?! I didn't hear the cheering, or see it on the front page of the news. We all know if anything would make front page news, Comcast not having problems would be it.

Cosgar ParagonX 4437	Posted - 2013.08.20 20:13:00 - [31] - Quote Bettie Boop 2100190003 wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: A better console won't help if the battle servers are having problems. It's like upgrading from Dial Up to cable while Comcast is having problems with maintaining a steady service. Stop the presses, Comcast stopped having problems?! I didn't hear the cheering, or see it on the front page of the news. We all know if anything would make front page news, Comcast not having problems would be it. As long as Comcast keeps throttling broadband, it'll always have problems.
Rowdy Railgunner TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 36	Posted - 2013.08.20 20:59:00 - [32] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Quote the whole thing please. Why? My comment was geared towards the fact that the core of the PS4 is an x86 architecture. There should be no lag time in developing for PS4 for lack of developer knowledge of the system. It is not a gaming system, it is a PC plugged into your TV.
Rowdy Railgunner TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 36	Posted - 2013.08.20 21:00:00 - [33] - Quote Vin Vicious wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Cosgar wrote: I think Dust is in a good place by not being on PS4 at launch. This gives them extra time to learn the hardware, They have been working with the hardware for 10+ years. Going to PS4/XBOXONE will be far easier for all developers than it has ever been in the history of past consoles. Carbon engine has not been around for 10years just so were clear An engine is not hardware, just so we are clear.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3460	Posted - 2013.08.20 21:02:00 - [34] - Quote If CCP goes with Unreal Engine 4, and they've already started work on it, then late 2014, but it's CCP we're talking about here with 5 guys working on DUST in Shanghai, so late 2015. If they're not using Unreal Engine 4, then I can't even speculate.
ThePlanetside2Bomber Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 8	Posted - 2013.08.20 22:40:00 - [35] - Quote CCP has no plans to port to PS4 because this game was a failure and has ruined their player base. No chance they can fix what they have done. Reputation is huge in gaming. Their's is shotty at best, after console failure.


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