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Goric Rumis
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.08.19 21:05:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:I hope your wrong Steve. Theres a lot of bad press out there about Dust 514 right now and the last thing they need to lose people with specialist weapons.
The day I see a "nerf HMG" I will be happy like the MD users were at first and then suddenly very scared of what being in the spotlight requires. I hope the fixing of hit detection puts the AR back on the spot though because their range without lag is going to be brutal.
-bazookah
(HMG for life)
I actually think the HMG will be relatively weaker. Because of the dispersion, it's not as impacted by the particular problem with hit detection as more precise weapons like the AR. (It's definitely impacted, just not as much as more precise weapons.) If that's really going to be fixed in 1.4, and assault rifles get a boost from aim assist, the HMG is going to be practically useless. At least, I think that's how it will work. I guess we'll find out in a couple weeks. |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
1560
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Posted - 2013.08.19 21:25:00 -
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I can't wait for releases that won't turn every new iteration of dust into bizarro world.
If aiming (amongst other things) is actually improved maybe we'll stop seeing so much cascading weirdness in the future. |
Aythadis Smith
The Generals
EoN.
115
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Posted - 2013.08.19 21:28:00 -
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So thre might be a reason to "dust off the scout" for more then a quarter matches a day |
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
4
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Posted - 2013.08.19 21:31:00 -
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u mad i popped u with my popcorn machine POP POP ^-_-^ LOL |
Medical Crash
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC
RUST415
98
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Posted - 2013.08.19 22:48:00 -
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If CCP ever gets the aiming right, shotguns will be forum enemy # 1. There are virtually none "SG are OPereed derp" threads should tell you something is wrong with them right now in DUST. People HATE shotguns, they hate getting killed in one shot in close quarters.
Have you every played BF3? Do you know many f * g admins ban shotguns from their servers? A LOT.
Do you know how many times I've had admins boot me in restriction free servers because they got mad for losing to shotguns? A LOT.
Then they have the nerve to send hatemail even though they only win due to admin abuse.
I'd say about 95% of dedicated servers do not allow shotguns, but the almighty AR is somehow NEVER banned. Even though I'm only effective in CLOSE QUARTERS, people still ***** about it. Stupid, makes no damn sense.
Here, this is what I'm talking about.
Me getting banned from BF3 server for making admin rage due to being shotgunned.
Can't wait till aiming is finally fixed in DUST, and we get to see morons come out of the woodwork crying on these forums. I will prepare a tear-cup of massive proportions. |
Bazookah Tooth
The Phoenix Federation
323
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Posted - 2013.08.19 22:54:00 -
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Goric Rumis wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:I hope your wrong Steve. Theres a lot of bad press out there about Dust 514 right now and the last thing they need to lose people with specialist weapons.
The day I see a "nerf HMG" I will be happy like the MD users were at first and then suddenly very scared of what being in the spotlight requires. I hope the fixing of hit detection puts the AR back on the spot though because their range without lag is going to be brutal.
-bazookah
(HMG for life) I actually think the HMG will be relatively weaker. Because of the dispersion, it's not as impacted by the particular problem with hit detection as more precise weapons like the AR. (It's definitely impacted, just not as much as more precise weapons.) If that's really going to be fixed in 1.4, and assault rifles get a boost from aim assist, the HMG is going to be practically useless. At least, I think that's how it will work. I guess we'll find out in a couple weeks.
There is much i despise about what you are saying but i think you may be right. I can only hope that with the hit detection fix all the time i have taken to make sure the little dot on the screen is on a target will pay off. The one thing i do think will happen is long distance shots for HMG will become better. We lost sharpshooter but its only amplified by the lag and hit detection. Should those two come together we may see a few more kills on the screen.
-bazookah
(HMG for life) |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
3050
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Posted - 2013.08.19 23:02:00 -
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ShotGun Stevie wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Lasers will make a comeback. Even if shotguns are fixed, that doesn't mean the paper-thin scouts wielding them will be buffed.
I know shotgun assaults are a good idea, but the community has always been stuck in the mindset that scouts are only good for their speed. trust me, me in a minja scout you won't see me coming. I'll 1 hit kill everything in my path and make people cry tears of blood. As you lie there dead i'll be cleaning up my duck tape on my suit
As long as the other team isn't completely oblivious, you'll OHK one person, then get killed by somebody with a militia AR |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
512
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Posted - 2013.08.19 23:06:00 -
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I hope so.
My 2 mains are a Gallente Shotty and a Minnie Heavy.
1.4 is my golden egg laying goose.
If only they had the racial Heavies inbound...
And maps. |
8213
Grade No.2
169
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Posted - 2013.08.19 23:17:00 -
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Forges |
Beren Hurin
The Vanguardians
1123
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Posted - 2013.08.19 23:20:00 -
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HMGs
Because their carriers are going to get aim assist, be more durable and mobile, and they will have more accuracy. |
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FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
400
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Posted - 2013.08.20 04:29:00 -
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Oh the tears will surely fall. |
Valentine Crendre
ZionTCD
65
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Posted - 2013.08.20 05:51:00 -
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It may be OP but unreliably so.
Because the problem right now is this...
The scouts using the SG can attest that currently the hit detection is absolutely god awful and random. Even worse for KB/M users since the tweaks to SG/mouse sensitivity is jacked as well.
At close range, strafe SGing is very difficult because of the very tight spread on the blast. If you're lucky, you'll hit the target (with pretty much the entire spread). This will do a lot of damage, making the SG seem OP. But in reality, it's because the damn SG mechanic is broken and needs fixing. A SGunner needs both skill and luck to hit you on the first blast..
To remedy this, the spread on the SG should be tight on aiming down and the blast should fly wide when hip firing...
Of course, the screwy hit detection and mouse sensitivity is an entirely different issue and that needs to be addressed first before CCP can move onto "improving"  the SG mechanics, in the terrible, unbalanced manner that they probably will undertake... |
Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
142
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Posted - 2013.08.20 06:10:00 -
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shotguns maybe in my opinion, but i honestly don't see you guys getting nerfed. I mean a shotgun is a shotgun. Its suppose to kill quick...... but the only thing i hate truly hate about shotguns is that the militia shotgun can do 1 hit klls just as good as a adv. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
208
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Posted - 2013.08.20 06:18:00 -
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The shotgun is fine but I want it nerfed because I dont like it, that is all lol  |
Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
142
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Posted - 2013.08.20 06:31:00 -
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whoa whoa whoa... they can't nerf forges it's an AV weapon (and this comming frm a dropship pilot). it's not like MD or TACs this would be a can of worms.
what do you think is going to happen...... HAVs are gonna have just that much breathing room to pulverize infintry and if that happens the nerf infection will have spread to the already weakened and critical vehicle deprtment and CCP will won't just nerf HAVs but probably dropships too. CCP has done pointless nerfs (dropships) and buffs (LAVs) before.
yeah i can see it now..................................................................... an AR taking me down . |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
228
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Posted - 2013.08.20 08:36:00 -
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No,crybaby bitches go away! |
tander09
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
36
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Posted - 2013.08.20 09:07:00 -
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whats worse is shotgunners camp the objective and when people hack the objective, the use their instakill cannons to kill them and rack up their K/D ratio |
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