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ShotGun Stevie The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 0	Posted - 2013.08.19 18:38:00 - [1] - Quote When the update of 1.4 comes rolling out what do you think will be next GÇ£NerfGÇ¥ thread. I for one know in fact that everyone and their mom will cry out that the Shot Gun is OP. Yet no change was made to the shotgun. Just a fixed hit detection across the board. Do any of you believe that the shotgun and HMG and other guns effected by the hit detection will be called if so please share your thoughts. Thank you GÇô Flaylock Steve
Cosgar ParagonX 4348	Posted - 2013.08.19 18:42:00 - [2] - Quote Let's call a spade a spade here: Everything that isn't an AR is considered OP because everyone wants this game to be a goddamned F2P CoD. In the self entitled minds of people that think this way, they can do no wrong and only want this game to be fair and fun for themselves and no one else. They'll degrade any weapon that they deem as "easy mode" due to misplaced xenophobic tendencies and a desire for a "fair fight" in a game designed to have messy full-scale battles. This mentality is a cancer on this community and until CCP stops trying to appeal to them at the expense of everyone else, Dust 514 will never get better. This game should be balanced to the point that nobody gives a flying flux about who's using what weapon aside from realizing that they need to use a different strategy on how to counter it.
Bazookah Tooth The Phoenix Federation 323	Posted - 2013.08.19 18:43:00 - [3] - Quote I hope your wrong Steve. Theres a lot of bad press out there about Dust 514 right now and the last thing they need to lose people with specialist weapons. The day I see a "nerf HMG" I will be happy like the MD users were at first and then suddenly very scared of what being in the spotlight requires. I hope the fixing of hit detection puts the AR back on the spot though because their range without lag is going to be brutal. -bazookah (HMG for life)
ShotGun Stevie The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 0	Posted - 2013.08.19 18:45:00 - [4] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Let's call a spade a spade here: Everything that isn't an AR is considered OP because everyone wants this game to be a goddamned F2P CoD. In the self entitled minds of people that think this way, they can do no wrong and only want this game to be fair and fun for themselves and no one else. They'll degrade any weapon that they deem as "easy mode" due to misplaced xenophobic tendencies and a desire for a "fair fight" in a game designed to have messy full-scale battles. This mentality is a cancer on this community and until CCP stops trying to appeal to them at the expense of everyone else, Dust 514 will never get better. This character was actually my main but I stopped using it because the hit detection sucks and because I accidently put the elite pack on Flaylock Steve. Once I start using my SG account or flaylock steve with a dren SG on a minja scout people will say IGÇÖm a FOTM chaser LOL when this account is twice the age of my alt xD. CanGÇÖt wait for the tears to roll in
Malek McRoland DUST University Ivy League 24	Posted - 2013.08.19 18:55:00 - [5] - Quote If anything, AR users(including myself) should have their ARs nerfed to better distinguish standard from proto. The fact that the standard AR only does three points less of damage( or something close to that) than the proto eliminates the reason to skill higher into the skill tree. I have no problem with the TacAR as is, but I would just like AR users to stop calling for everything to be nerfed lol
NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 339	Posted - 2013.08.19 18:56:00 - [6] - Quote ShotGun Stevie wrote: When the update of 1.4 comes rolling out what do you think will be next GÇ£NerfGÇ¥ thread. I for one know in fact that everyone and their mom will cry out that the Shot Gun is OP. Yet no change was made to the shotgun. Just a fixed hit detection across the board. Do any of you believe that the shotgun and HMG and other guns effected by the hit detection will be called if so please share your thoughts. Thank you GÇô Flaylock Steve Yes Shotgun is OP
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws 714	Posted - 2013.08.19 18:56:00 - [7] - Quote Malek McRoland wrote: If anything, AR users(including myself) should have their ARs nerfed to better distinguish standard from proto. The fact that the standard AR only does three points less of damage( or something close to that) than the proto eliminates the reason to skill higher into the skill tree. I have no problem with the TacAR as is, but I would just like AR users to stop calling for everything to be nerfed lol 3 points of damage over time plus multipliers (skills) adds up to a lot.
ShotGun Stevie The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 0	Posted - 2013.08.19 18:59:00 - [8] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: ShotGun Stevie wrote: When the update of 1.4 comes rolling out what do you think will be next GÇ£NerfGÇ¥ thread. I for one know in fact that everyone and their mom will cry out that the Shot Gun is OP. Yet no change was made to the shotgun. Just a fixed hit detection across the board. Do any of you believe that the shotgun and HMG and other guns effected by the hit detection will be called if so please share your thoughts. Thank you GÇô Flaylock Steve Yes Shotgun is OP LOL you actually posted xD Off topic: Even though we don't agree on the same matter I love going against your Corp, add me in game. On topic: Noob xD
FLAYLOCK Steve Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 395	Posted - 2013.08.19 19:01:00 - [9] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: ShotGun Stevie wrote: When the update of 1.4 comes rolling out what do you think will be next GÇ£NerfGÇ¥ thread. I for one know in fact that everyone and their mom will cry out that the Shot Gun is OP. Yet no change was made to the shotgun. Just a fixed hit detection across the board. Do any of you believe that the shotgun and HMG and other guns effected by the hit detection will be called if so please share your thoughts. Thank you GÇô Flaylock Steve Yes Shotgun is OP Well instead of adding ShotGun Steve add this character so we can squad in game xD
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3042	Posted - 2013.08.19 19:05:00 - [10] - Quote Lasers will make a comeback. Even if shotguns are fixed, that doesn't mean the paper-thin scouts wielding them will be buffed. I know shotgun assaults are a good idea, but the community has always been stuck in the mindset that scouts are only good for their speed.

Lightning xVx Diamond-Dogs 144	Posted - 2013.08.19 19:07:00 - [11] - Quote ShotGun Stevie wrote: When the update of 1.4 comes rolling out what do you think will be next GÇ£NerfGÇ¥ thread. I for one know in fact that everyone and their mom will cry out that the Shot Gun is OP. Yet no change was made to the shotgun. Just a fixed hit detection across the board. Do any of you believe that the shotgun and HMG and other guns effected by the hit detection will be called if so please share your thoughts. Thank you GÇô Flaylock Steve If Shotgun is nerfed more then what it is now, CCP will lose a customer. Permanently.
ShotGun Stevie The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 0	Posted - 2013.08.19 19:10:00 - [12] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Lasers will make a comeback. Even if shotguns are fixed, that doesn't mean the paper-thin scouts wielding them will be buffed. I know shotgun assaults are a good idea, but the community has always been stuck in the mindset that scouts are only good for their speed. trust me, me in a minja scout you won't see me coming. I'll 1 hit kill everything in my path and make people cry tears of blood. As you lie there dead i'll be cleaning up my duck tape on my suit
ShotGun Stevie The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 0	Posted - 2013.08.19 19:11:00 - [13] - Quote Lightning xVx wrote: ShotGun Stevie wrote: When the update of 1.4 comes rolling out what do you think will be next GÇ£NerfGÇ¥ thread. I for one know in fact that everyone and their mom will cry out that the Shot Gun is OP. Yet no change was made to the shotgun. Just a fixed hit detection across the board. Do any of you believe that the shotgun and HMG and other guns effected by the hit detection will be called if so please share your thoughts. Thank you GÇô Flaylock Steve If Shotgun is nerfed more then what it is now, CCP will lose a customer. Permanently. I'm calling it because I know how bad people cry
Hellkeizer The Avutora Complex 16	Posted - 2013.08.19 19:12:00 - [14] - Quote I can already hear my friend saying, "That's so ****ing STUPID!" if I tell him shotguns might get nerfed. Please CCP for the sake of my ears, don't do it!
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 298	Posted - 2013.08.19 19:12:00 - [15] - Quote With all the venom being spit concerning the MD, you would be bat crap crazy to think the Shotgun will suffer a different fate. Add in the fact that the MD was nerfed, then it was "un-nerfed" via hit detection being fixed. Compared to the Shotgun going back to the way it was with no nerf what-so-ever? There are not enough airguns in the world to clear out the amount of sand stuck in this communities vajay-jays...
NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 340	Posted - 2013.08.19 19:17:00 - [16] - Quote ShotGun Stevie wrote: NAV HIV wrote: ShotGun Stevie wrote: When the update of 1.4 comes rolling out what do you think will be next GÇ£NerfGÇ¥ thread. I for one know in fact that everyone and their mom will cry out that the Shot Gun is OP. Yet no change was made to the shotgun. Just a fixed hit detection across the board. Do any of you believe that the shotgun and HMG and other guns effected by the hit detection will be called if so please share your thoughts. Thank you GÇô Flaylock Steve Yes Shotgun is OP LOL you actually posted xD Off topic: Even though we don't agree on the same matter I love going against your Corp, add me in game. On topic: Noob xD LOL Sure thing Flaylock MD SG Scrambler Logi Suit and MOst of all LOGI LAV is OP
NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 340	Posted - 2013.08.19 19:18:00 - [17] - Quote FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: NAV HIV wrote: ShotGun Stevie wrote: When the update of 1.4 comes rolling out what do you think will be next GÇ£NerfGÇ¥ thread. I for one know in fact that everyone and their mom will cry out that the Shot Gun is OP. Yet no change was made to the shotgun. Just a fixed hit detection across the board. Do any of you believe that the shotgun and HMG and other guns effected by the hit detection will be called if so please share your thoughts. Thank you GÇô Flaylock Steve Yes Shotgun is OP Well instead of adding ShotGun Steve add this character so we can squad in game xD Hmm Alter Accounts I see
NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 340	Posted - 2013.08.19 19:19:00 - [18] - Quote Lightning xVx wrote: ShotGun Stevie wrote: When the update of 1.4 comes rolling out what do you think will be next GÇ£NerfGÇ¥ thread. I for one know in fact that everyone and their mom will cry out that the Shot Gun is OP. Yet no change was made to the shotgun. Just a fixed hit detection across the board. Do any of you believe that the shotgun and HMG and other guns effected by the hit detection will be called if so please share your thoughts. Thank you GÇô Flaylock Steve If Shotgun is nerfed more then what it is now, CCP will lose a customer. Permanently. ^^^ Nerf this guy first
ShotGun Stevie The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 0	Posted - 2013.08.19 19:19:00 - [19] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: With all the venom being spit concerning the MD, you would be bat crap crazy to think the Shotgun will suffer a different fate. Add in the fact that the MD was nerfed, then it was "un-nerfed" via hit detection being fixed. Compared to the Shotgun going back to the way it was with no nerf what-so-ever? There are not enough airguns in the world to clear out the amount of sand stuck in this communities vajay-jays... Exactly, the shotgun NOW will be the same as 1.4. Just a better hit detection system
ShotGun Stevie The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 0	Posted - 2013.08.19 19:20:00 - [20] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: NAV HIV wrote: ShotGun Stevie wrote: When the update of 1.4 comes rolling out what do you think will be next GÇ£NerfGÇ¥ thread. I for one know in fact that everyone and their mom will cry out that the Shot Gun is OP. Yet no change was made to the shotgun. Just a fixed hit detection across the board. Do any of you believe that the shotgun and HMG and other guns effected by the hit detection will be called if so please share your thoughts. Thank you GÇô Flaylock Steve Yes Shotgun is OP Well instead of adding ShotGun Steve add this character so we can squad in game xD Hmm Alter Accounts I see Well, this was my main but I was drunk one night and put the elite pack on Flaylock Steve which at the time was my alt. This character is older by a month i believe

Knight Soiaire Better Hide R Die 1888	Posted - 2013.08.19 19:21:00 - [21] - Quote Already called it. Knight Soiaire wrote: Once the Shotgun gets fixed, it'll get nerfed, the thing will be a beast in CQC and AR users wont like that one bit. I'm calling it. God I hope we're wrong.
Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 474	Posted - 2013.08.19 19:22:00 - [22] - Quote Oh you must have unlocked the DeLorean LAV.
ShotGun Stevie The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 0	Posted - 2013.08.19 19:23:00 - [23] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Already called it. Knight Soiaire wrote: Once the Shotgun gets fixed, it'll get nerfed, the thing will be a beast in CQC and AR users wont like that one bit. I'm calling it. God I hope we're wrong. CCP will nerf because ar cant take it out in cqc
Lightning Bolt2 DUST University Ivy League 109	Posted - 2013.08.19 19:34:00 - [24] - Quote I expect to see nerf Nova Knife threads and nerf SG threads cuz they'll be beast in cqc
NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 341	Posted - 2013.08.19 19:38:00 - [25] - Quote Lightning Bolt2 wrote: I expect to see nerf Nova Knife threads and nerf SG threads cuz they'll be beast in cqc The take some skill LOL
Cosgar ParagonX 4358	Posted - 2013.08.19 20:38:00 - [26] - Quote Why do we even try to have fun when this game is built around Caldari assaults with ARs?
Oso Peresoso RisingSuns 605	Posted - 2013.08.19 20:42:00 - [27] - Quote Malek McRoland wrote: If anything, AR users(including myself) should have their ARs nerfed to better distinguish standard from proto. The fact that the standard AR only does three points less of damage( or something close to that) than the proto eliminates the reason to skill higher into the skill tree. Except you still see Duvolles everywhere. The effects of the skills are rather large, there's plenty of reason to get AR OP V even if you rarely use a duvolle.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1691	Posted - 2013.08.19 20:42:00 - [28] - Quote aiming will be better... but have we heard anything about hit detection? Shotgun has never been OP... its been a solid weapon for CQC for sure, and annoying to go against but ive never died to a shotgun and been like "** it that ** is OP" Explosives are still the only weapon in this game that I feel have ever been truly overpowered. They just don't work right and make the gameplay worse as a result.
ExmapIe Core Ancient ExiIes 87	Posted - 2013.08.19 20:46:00 - [29] - Quote Shotgun is the only gun that actually takes skill.
Lightning xVx Diamond-Dogs 145	Posted - 2013.08.19 21:00:00 - [30] - Quote ExmapIe Core wrote: Shotgun is the only gun that actually takes skill. 8 shells, opponent has double that with another light weapon. I say its a legit OHK weapon.



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