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nicholas73
Starfox Merc Corp
16
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Posted - 2013.08.18 15:52:00 -
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And I was blown away, its too freaking easy to use and kill. Its such an easy weapon. But its boring.
As a speciality weapon user (MD, Laser, Shotguns, Plasma Cannon soon), I found it way too easy to use. Moreover the fitting requirements are so freaking low.
The AR needs to be toned down a bit, not in damage but in recoil. The damn thing has no freaking recoil at all.
Next Please bring the fitting requirements of other weapons down to the AR level or raise the AR ones up, its not fair cause some weapons have nearly double the requirement. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
4269
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Posted - 2013.08.18 15:58:00 -
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I personally think you're pissing in the wind. CCP wants the AR to be easy mode for some reason, that's probably why they call it an AR. But even so, niche weapons need to be buffed back up to being effective at their niche and immune to AR nerf requests afterwards so history doesn't repeat itself. |
Duran Lex
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
142
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:04:00 -
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Oh the irony.
The AR being one of the easiest weapons to use in the game,
and yet when killed by anything else its "you don't have the skill to aim and shoot at me."
Yes, skill is why you are using one of the highest DPS weapons in the game, with an effective range suitable for more situations then any other gun in the game, so effectively.
Skill |
Taeryn Frost
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
53
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:10:00 -
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Considering the starter fits, I don't know how anyone wouldn't have tried out the AR before >_>;
Also, I don't really care about skill required, I just want to put whatever I aim at on its back. |
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
1861
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:11:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:I personally think you're pissing in the wind. CCP wants the AR to be easy mode for some reason, that's probably why they call it an AR. But even so, niche weapons need to be buffed back up to being effective at their niche and immune to AR nerf requests afterwards so history doesn't repeat itself.
Once the Shotgun gets fixed, it'll get nerfed, the thing will be a beast in CQC and AR users wont like that one bit.
I'm calling it. |
CrotchGrab 360
187.
190
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:15:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Oh the irony. The AR being one of the easiest weapons to use in the game, and yet when killed by anything else its "you don't have the skill to aim and shoot at me." Yes, skill is why you are using one of the highest DPS weapons in the game, with an effective range suitable for more situations then any other gun in the game, so effectively. Skill
but incidentally there is no skill involved in camping on a roof spamming an explosive weapon (looking at you dark cloud) that's the kind of crap we did when we were 10 on N64 games. I didn't think this was an arcade spam fest.
And then there's running people over with LAVs. Nobody tries to use anything which uses skill in this game so I believe it is a moot point. There is very little skill involved in the game because everybody is flocking to the thing which requires the least skill to use. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
729
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:22:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:I personally think you're pissing in the wind. CCP wants the AR to be easy mode for some reason, that's probably why they call it an AR. But even so, niche weapons need to be buffed back up to being effective at their niche and immune to AR nerf requests afterwards so history doesn't repeat itself. Maybe so newer players can use a weapons that's not completely alien to them and maybe get a feel for the game. |
Dust Project 514
Pistol King
233
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:33:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:Duran Lex wrote:l And then there's running people over with LAVs. Nobody tries to use anything which uses skill in this game so I believe it is a moot point. There is very little skill involved in the game because everybody is flocking to the thing which requires the least skill to use.
You calling me a nobody? There are a few that use weapons that require skill, BUT there are many thaT just use easy weapons, just to inflate their i-peen. |
nicholas73
Starfox Merc Corp
16
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:35:00 -
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Taeryn Frost wrote:Considering the starter fits, I don't know how anyone wouldn't have tried out the AR before >_>;
Also, I don't really care about skill required, I just want to put whatever I aim at on its back.
Well I played about for a while in chromosome only with the militia assault rifle, then I switched to Mass Drivers, never used them in Uprising. I only used them due to my "Black Eagle" Suit which I saved for so long. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
4270
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:35:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Cosgar wrote:I personally think you're pissing in the wind. CCP wants the AR to be easy mode for some reason, that's probably why they call it an AR. But even so, niche weapons need to be buffed back up to being effective at their niche and immune to AR nerf requests afterwards so history doesn't repeat itself. Maybe so newer players can use a weapons that's not completely alien to them and maybe get a feel for the game. There's nothing wrong with that, but when it's all that's being used by almost 90% of the player base, it goes from being familiar to being too effective. When's the last time you've seen someone use the breach or burst? |
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broonfondle majikthies
P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
168
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:42:00 -
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CCP has always said the current AR is no meant to be the 'standard' weapon of the game. They always intended the Minmatar Combat Rifle to be that. When the new weapons roll out the current AR will undoubtedly change.
Personally I use SMG, the kick makes it a little trickier to use at range so is more challenging. Also it supports my Assault suits 'blitzer' style of play |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
730
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:44:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Cosgar wrote:I personally think you're pissing in the wind. CCP wants the AR to be easy mode for some reason, that's probably why they call it an AR. But even so, niche weapons need to be buffed back up to being effective at their niche and immune to AR nerf requests afterwards so history doesn't repeat itself. Maybe so newer players can use a weapons that's not completely alien to them and maybe get a feel for the game. There's nothing wrong with that, but when it's all that's being used by almost 90% of the player base, it goes from being familiar to being too effective. When's the last time you've seen someone use the breach or burst? Far and few between. The breach is only good at later levels and the burst...well let's not talk about the burst.
But I do agree that the standard AR does all jobs better then the other rifles(except maybe the TAC)
You have a point, but people are gonna use what they wanna use. Honestly, I can't wait for the Gallente AR to be renamed to the blaster rifle and get its range cut. It will finally stop being the go to weapon newberrys. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3613
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:48:00 -
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An assault rifle is NOT, I repeat, NOT a specialty weapon in any way. It's just a standard weapon, plain and simple. It's suppose to be easy to use.
Look at the real-world Kalashnikov AK-47. Effective, rugged, yet easy to use that a 7-year-old kid can learn how to use it in 5 minutes. |
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
1864
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:49:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:An assault rifle is NOT, I repeat, NOT a specialty weapon in any way. It's just a standard weapon, plain and simple. It's suppose to be easy to use.
Look at the real-world Kalashnikov AK-47. Effective, rugged, yet easy to use that a 7-year-old kid can learn how to use it in 5 minutes.
Its too effective in all situations though.
Remove Basic AR! |
nicholas73
Starfox Merc Corp
18
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:55:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:An assault rifle is NOT, I repeat, NOT a specialty weapon in any way. It's just a standard weapon, plain and simple. It's suppose to be easy to use.
Look at the real-world Kalashnikov AK-47. Effective, rugged, yet easy to use that a 7-year-old kid can learn how to use it in 5 minutes. That thing has killer recoil you know, man I just said to increase the damn recoil. |
Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
14
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Posted - 2013.08.18 17:23:00 -
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I agree when you say that the fitting requirements are too low. With the ar I can fit a better tank while still having a good punch. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
743
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Posted - 2013.08.18 17:53:00 -
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Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
274
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Posted - 2013.08.18 18:04:00 -
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nicholas73 wrote:So I just tried wanking and I was blown away, its too freaking easy to do and spill. Its such an easy act. But its boring.
As a novelty sex toy user (Butt plugs, Anal beads, nipple clamps, Prostate Cannon soon), I found it way too easy to do. Moreover my balls hang so freaking low.
The 5 finger discount needs to be toned down a bit, not in strokes but in pleasure. The damn thing has no pain or risk at all.
Next Please bring the fitting requirements of my anus down a level or make wankers use sand paper, its not fair cause some wankers have nearly double the pleasure.
Totally agree. We should all be having the same exact orgasms. |
Thumb Green
Novashift
285
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Posted - 2013.08.18 18:39:00 -
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People that talk like Knight Soiaire sound like children that are sore losers and have had their feelings hurt.
No recoil at all? Must be using a basic, bpo, or militia version. Increase the recoil? Go ahead, because recoil will never be an issue for someone that knows how to use an AR because they know to feather it.
Skill? Pfft, hardly anything in this game takes "skill". The only time the MD takes skill is if the person your shooting it at is more than 60 meters away and you don't have the high ground; and even then it's just a matter of getting used to the firing arc. However the way most people use it requires no skill unless you consider hopping around shooting at peoples feet an act of skill. |
Thor McStrut
Reckoners
124
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Posted - 2013.08.18 18:44:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:
but incidentally there is no skill involved in camping on a roof spamming an explosive weapon (looking at you dark cloud) that's the kind of crap we did when we were 10 on N64 games. I didn't think this was an arcade spam fest.
And then there's running people over with LAVs. Nobody tries to use anything which uses skill in this game so I believe it is a moot point. There is very little skill involved in the game because everybody is flocking to the thing which requires the least skill to use.
This is the definition of FoTM. This is what gamers do. The constant quest for the easiest to use, most effective weapon available. Whether it's the LR, the HMG, the Flaylock, or the MD. All they do is try to satisfy the urge for the majority to feel better about their gaming.
This is why after 4 months, I'm giving up the MD (fearing the future nerf) and now going with Dual Scrambler pistols. After trying the scout suit, I've moved back to my Adv Gal assault suit to improve my TTL while working on my gun game. The breach softens em up, the KiLO (I think that's what it is) to put em down. Just got my first headshot kill in a 1v1, which turned into a grenade kill on his buddy who came to help.
In the end, it doesn't matter the weapon. The more you use it, the better you get with it. Pretty soon I'll start a trend, and the forum trolls will be calling for a nerf on the Scramber Pistol. |
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Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
274
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Posted - 2013.08.18 19:00:00 -
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So OP popped his AR cherry and is just caught up in the moment. I felt the same way after I tried FGing, MDing and HMGing for the first time. All just as easy. Absolutely love Scrambler Pistols for my calogi especially the breach! Extremely satisfying especially when you get some head:D |
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
1869
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Posted - 2013.08.18 19:02:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:People that talk like Knight Soiaire sound like children that are sore losers and have had their feelings hurt.
No recoil at all? Must be using a basic, bpo, or militia version. Increase the recoil? Go ahead, because recoil will never be an issue for someone that knows how to use an AR because they know to feather it.
Skill? Pfft, hardly anything in this game takes "skill". The only time the MD takes skill is if the person your shooting it at is more than 60 meters away and you don't have the high ground; and even then it's just a matter of getting used to the firing arc. However the way most people use it requires no skill unless you consider hopping around shooting at peoples feet an act of skill.
What did I do to deserve this?
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Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
650
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Posted - 2013.08.18 19:07:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Thumb Green wrote:People that talk like Knight Soiaire sound like children that are sore losers and have had their feelings hurt.
No recoil at all? Must be using a basic, bpo, or militia version. Increase the recoil? Go ahead, because recoil will never be an issue for someone that knows how to use an AR because they know to feather it.
Skill? Pfft, hardly anything in this game takes "skill". The only time the MD takes skill is if the person your shooting it at is more than 60 meters away and you don't have the high ground; and even then it's just a matter of getting used to the firing arc. However the way most people use it requires no skill unless you consider hopping around shooting at peoples feet an act of skill. What did I do to deserve this? You put a CD back into it's case without properly aligning it.
You monster! |
Thumb Green
Novashift
285
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Posted - 2013.08.18 19:17:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote: Once the Shotgun gets fixed, it'll get nerfed, the thing will be a beast in CQC and AR users wont like that one bit.
That's what you did to deserve it Knight Soiaire. I apologize if you were being sarcastic but after seeing it thrown across the forums for months I just can't help but think of anyone that says something like that as a little child that's a sore loser and has had their feelings hurt. |
HYENAKILLER X
TEAM SHINOBI
181
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Posted - 2013.08.18 19:23:00 -
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Lol ar is easy when killiing noobs. Mass driver, flaylock and forge gun is easy killing protos and vehicles.
Clowns.
Fight good players and get back to me about the ar. |
Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
274
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Posted - 2013.08.18 19:32:00 -
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Why would only AR users care when shotguns get fixed? |
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.08.18 19:35:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote: Once the Shotgun gets fixed, it'll get nerfed, the thing will be a beast in CQC and AR users wont like that one bit.
That's what you did to deserve it Knight Soiaire. I apologize if you were being sarcastic but after seeing it thrown across the forums for months I just can't help but think of anyone that says something like that as a little child that's a sore loser and has had their feelings hurt.
What thrown around the forums for months.
That AR users will get whatever weapon that can best them nerfed?
Gee, if so many people are saying it, I must be right!
I've gotten hatemail from AR users saying the shotgun requires no skill because its a one hit kill weapon, thats the sort of people we're dealing with. |
Thumb Green
Novashift
287
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Posted - 2013.08.18 19:50:00 -
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Just because the masses believe something doesn't mean it's right.
I've gotten hate mail from people that don't use AR's for "using a modded controller" and being an "exploit using ***" while using a gek. That's just the sort of people that play this game; every weapon has a group of whinny bitches that don't want to blame themselves for getting killed by it. |
Exardor
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2013.08.18 20:04:00 -
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Alright! This week we switch from "MD is overpowered and for noobs." to "AR is overpowered and for noobs."
Next week: Scrambler Rifle is overpowered and for noobs! Same Bat-Time, Same Bat-Channel!
Seriously, wtf guys... |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
711
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Posted - 2013.08.18 20:04:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Cosgar wrote:I personally think you're pissing in the wind. CCP wants the AR to be easy mode for some reason, that's probably why they call it an AR. But even so, niche weapons need to be buffed back up to being effective at their niche and immune to AR nerf requests afterwards so history doesn't repeat itself. Maybe so newer players can use a weapons that's not completely alien to them and maybe get a feel for the game. There's nothing wrong with that, but when it's all that's being used by almost 90% of the player base, it goes from being familiar to being too effective. When's the last time you've seen someone use the breach or burst?
I would use all those AR skill points i've invested if the burst didn't suck. |
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