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Zero Harpuia
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.18 20:14:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:CrotchGrab 360 wrote:
but incidentally there is no skill involved in camping on a roof spamming an explosive weapon (looking at you dark cloud) that's the kind of crap we did when we were 10 on N64 games. I didn't think this was an arcade spam fest.
And then there's running people over with LAVs. Nobody tries to use anything which uses skill in this game so I believe it is a moot point. There is very little skill involved in the game because everybody is flocking to the thing which requires the least skill to use.
This is the definition of FoTM. This is what gamers do. The constant quest for the easiest to use, most effective weapon available. Whether it's the LR, the HMG, the Flaylock, or the MD. All they do is try to satisfy the urge for the majority to feel better about their gaming. This is why after 4 months, I'm giving up the MD (fearing the future nerf) and now going with Dual Scrambler pistols. After trying the scout suit, I've moved back to my Adv Gal assault suit to improve my TTL while working on my gun game. The breach softens em up, the KiLO (I think that's what it is) to put em down. Just got my first headshot kill in a 1v1, which turned into a grenade kill on his buddy who came to help. In the end, it doesn't matter the weapon. The more you use it, the better you get with it. Pretty soon I'll start a trend, and the forum trolls will be calling for a nerf on the Scramber Pistol.
Dunno if you've been around that long, but they already DID. Thing used to have much greater range, it was the long range sidearm :p |
Nemo Bluntz
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.18 20:54:00 -
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Oh hey, another thread with people complaining about the AR. |
Thor McStrut
Reckoners
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Posted - 2013.08.19 00:52:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote: Dunno if you've been around that long, but they already DID. Thing used to have much greater range, it was the long range sidearm :p
I came around beginning of March I think. Chromosome was in full effect. My gun game pretty much sucks, so I choose to be a spray and pray guy and quickly leaned away from the pistols to the SMG. That's been my sidearm of choice, and was a good CQB backup for the Chromo/Uprising 1.1 MD. Now, I only really need it when I'm running low on MD ammo and can't disengage to find a hive. Which lately has been pretty frequently as I don't die nearly as often now that my tanking skills are improving.
With the armor updates coming, I foresee myself dying less and less, and my headshots steadily improving. If they've already been nerfed, I might be looking good for the next year at least. |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.08.19 00:58:00 -
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You know the forums do the same crap. A guy makes a complaint about AR because he dies too much by it. Player deems it OP. Posts thread about it. Others, whom falls victim to the standard issue rifle repeatedly, reads the thread and begins the movement. Now community is populated with AR OP threads.
Then you have this one guy who creates an alt or decide to do a field experiment. Wielding the weapon and getting kills with it, he deems it OP. Comes to thread to share testimony. Figures because he did this, now the world will understand and agree with the other bandwagon hoppers who says the AR is OP.
The AR is not OP. It's not a one shot kill weapon. If the opposing player has prepped his dropsuit appropriately for those ARs, then the AR user will have to use strategy and skill to take him down. Then it can be argued that their suit is OP.
Silly thread, tricks are for kids |
Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.08.19 01:11:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:I would use all those AR skill points i've invested if the burst didn't suck. Soon as I finish maxing kin cats, I'm saving up for the combat rifle and hoping that it's more than just a less effective AR. |
nicholas73
Starfox Merc Corp
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Posted - 2013.08.19 09:03:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:You know the forums do the same crap. A guy makes a complaint about AR because he dies too much by it. Player deems it OP. Posts thread about it. Others, whom falls victim to the standard issue rifle repeatedly, reads the thread and begins the movement. Now community is populated with AR OP threads.
Then you have this one guy who creates an alt or decide to do a field experiment. Wielding the weapon and getting kills with it, he deems it OP. Comes to thread to share testimony. Figures because he did this, now the world will understand and agree with the other bandwagon hoppers who says the AR is OP.
The AR is not OP. It's not a one shot kill weapon. If the opposing player has prepped his dropsuit appropriately for those ARs, then the AR user will have to use strategy and skill to take him down. Then it can be argued that their suit is OP.
Silly thread, tricks are for kids I think people are failing to see the point here, what I am trying to say is the AR needs some recoil when in ADS, cause it literally sprays like a laser when in ADS. The other thing mentioned was about the fitting requirements which is low for the AR which considerable higher for some other weapons. |
RedRebelCork
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
342
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Posted - 2013.08.19 09:06:00 -
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I have the opposite story.
I usually use ARs 90% of the time. Unlocked lvl3 (EXO-5) Mass Driver over the weekend. It's a beast and far more fun than the GEK assault rifle. A veritable kill-stealing monster. My only qualm is the 3 magazines run out very fast. |
nicholas73
Starfox Merc Corp
25
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Posted - 2013.08.19 09:08:00 -
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RedRebelCork wrote:I have the opposite story.
I usually use ARs 90% of the time. Unlocked lvl3 (EXO-5) Mass Driver over the weekend. It's a beast and far more fun than the GEK assault rifle. A veritable kill-stealing monster. My only qualm is the 3 magazines run out very fast.
What did I say about the AR being boring Speciality weapons are my type cause its really fun, MD is a bit overpowered now though.
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CrotchGrab 360
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Posted - 2013.08.19 11:20:00 -
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Dust Project 514 wrote:CrotchGrab 360 wrote:Duran Lex wrote:l And then there's running people over with LAVs. Nobody tries to use anything which uses skill in this game so I believe it is a moot point. There is very little skill involved in the game because everybody is flocking to the thing which requires the least skill to use. You calling me a nobody? There are a few that use weapons that require skill, BUT there are many thaT just use easy weapons, just to inflate their i-peen.
my e-peen is so big people lose dropships before they hit the ceiling. |
THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Pure Innocence. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.19 11:30:00 -
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nicholas73 wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:An assault rifle is NOT, I repeat, NOT a specialty weapon in any way. It's just a standard weapon, plain and simple. It's suppose to be easy to use.
Look at the real-world Kalashnikov AK-47. Effective, rugged, yet easy to use that a 7-year-old kid can learn how to use it in 5 minutes. That thing has killer recoil you know, man I just said to increase the damn recoil. An AK 47 DOES NOT have recoil, thats a stupid internet rumor created by armchair warriors who've never fired a gun in their lives. Fire one yourself and you'll see that the recoil is so miniscule that your sight picture looks like call of duty with how little the iron sights move. Fire some 00 buck from a 12g pump with a wooden stock, THATS recoil. |
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.08.19 11:38:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:nicholas73 wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:An assault rifle is NOT, I repeat, NOT a specialty weapon in any way. It's just a standard weapon, plain and simple. It's suppose to be easy to use.
Look at the real-world Kalashnikov AK-47. Effective, rugged, yet easy to use that a 7-year-old kid can learn how to use it in 5 minutes. That thing has killer recoil you know, man I just said to increase the damn recoil. An AK 47 DOES NOT have recoil, thats a stupid internet rumor created by armchair warriors who've never fired a gun in their lives. Fire one yourself and you'll see that the recoil is so miniscule that your sight picture looks like call of duty with how little the iron sights move. Fire some 00 buck from a 12g pump with a wooden stock, THATS recoil.
Im convinced everyone that says that has no idea how to properly shoulder a gun or just has tiny little arms weaker than a childs I mean its not like we would spend tons of time making our real world weapons effective while minimizing their drawbacks right? Every real world army uses assault rifles that kick up into the sky if you fire more than a single shot dont they? |
nicholas73
Starfox Merc Corp
28
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Posted - 2013.08.19 12:54:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:nicholas73 wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:An assault rifle is NOT, I repeat, NOT a specialty weapon in any way. It's just a standard weapon, plain and simple. It's suppose to be easy to use.
Look at the real-world Kalashnikov AK-47. Effective, rugged, yet easy to use that a 7-year-old kid can learn how to use it in 5 minutes. That thing has killer recoil you know, man I just said to increase the damn recoil. An AK 47 DOES NOT have recoil, thats a stupid internet rumor created by armchair warriors who've never fired a gun in their lives. Fire one yourself and you'll see that the recoil is so miniscule that your sight picture looks like call of duty with how little the iron sights move. Fire some 00 buck from a 12g pump with a wooden stock, THATS recoil. Im convinced everyone that says that has no idea how to properly shoulder a gun or just has tiny little arms weaker than a childs I mean its not like we would spend tons of time making our real world weapons effective while minimizing their drawbacks right? Every real world army uses assault rifles that kick up into the sky if you fire more than a single shot dont they?
Yes exactly my thoughts, shotguns and sniper rifles are supposed to have deadly recoil. For assault rifles its much less but when you go full auto its get tough to handle it.
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