My biggest gripe is actually with the lagging hit boxes. If that was fixed, aiming would be much more reliable.

No, you're BLIND. The Acceleration is bad, it's too big, this causes making accurate twitch shots impossible. Also, the sensitivity is too slow, needs to be at least 3 X what the max currently is.

Others will agree with me that the aiming is bad.

Most of you just suck at landing your shots


#thetruthhurts

+1
I have no problem with aiming, just sometimes the hit detection doesn't work to well, and that when i'm trying to rail snipe i can't see the people, only their names

Well, Dr. Allopathy, assuming you're not trolling.....

When it comes to hit detection, i'm more and more of the opinion that it's really a hitbox lag/network lag issue.

When it come to aiming, it's too consistently clunky to be just a lag issue. And I don't think it's the missing aim assist either, since I've had that turned off since Mordu's private trials. In DUST, most of my fine aiming at range is done with the left stick.

I will tell you this - when i play battlefield(Yay free PS3+ downloads) i know the failings are mine and mine alone. When i play DUST, maybe 5-10% of my deaths are attributable to wonky/failed core mechanics. Just guessing about the 5-10%, i don't keep track of it other than by my annoyance level.

The other thing that tells me those of us are not totally out-to-lunch re the core mechanics is the consistency with which they get mentioned in reviews of DUST.

Most of you just suck at landing your shots


#thetruthhurts

Do you use a shotgun as main?

No?

S*FU then :3

I use a shotty for fun, and I do pretty well with it :) that's a HIT DETECTION ISSUE


learn to read

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#thetruthhurts

Just because a company mentions core mechanics or any broad trait inside a review does not mean that it is a major issue lying with the game.

Anyone can go in and put together a run of the mill review. Hell, you can easily use content from other reviews and reword it so that you save the time, effort, and money spent to even play the game (this excludes Dust obviously).

The mechanics are fine.

Also, the sensitivity is too slow

I think the aiming is perfectly fine

Fun Fact: Did you know that in Dust 514, you could change your sensitivity if you think the sensitivity is wonkey? If you do then there is no reason to complain about the sensitivity in this game. I think the aiming is just fine but not the hit detection.

Most of you just suck at landing your shots


#thetruthhurts

I have to thank you for a good chuckle, Doc. In fact a day later it still bring a grin to my face.

Yesterday. Skim Junction. You and your crew were camping the roof of the mushroom over bravo.

I had gone out to recover echo(edited, had delta originally) and had to make my way back over the open killing field to the compound. So i did the drunken master walk across the field of death. Not sure how many of you were up there, i know i was taking fire from a sniper rifle and an AR. But i made it, tucked myself behind the cover of the wall with 80 armor left to heal up. The sniper had tagged me once and the AR had been landing sporadic pepper on me.

And then you got me, Doc, but it was sooo worth the death when i saw the killfeed.....Doctor Allopathy(EXO-5 Mass Driver)Vrain Matari.

Man i laughed. Still chuckling

Sounds like fanboy speak to me.

#ccpdeepthroat

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#thetruthhurts

Whatever floats your boat, I don't typically think about deepthroat

That's cool.

The tracking and hit detection are all pretty awful. If you think its "perfectly fine" however? It's that blind fanboy scent I'm getting a waft of. And it smells awful.

Most of you just suck at landing your shots


#thetruthhurts

On a serious note I think anti aliasing is the culprit here.

If you want to see how bad aiming is, run two complex modifiers and run up on somebody with a scrambler pistol. Shoot them in the head after your sprint and you will see the kind of thing I deal with on daily basis. I've had instances where I've shot someone from behind in the head 3 times before the 4th shot finally registers... it's bad. The shotgun suffers from this same kind of lag, it's less noticeable with an AR because the rate of fire is big that it's hard to notice, but with most pump and dump weapons it's the difference between getting a kill and getting killed.

Plasma cannons, flaylocks, and mass drivers all usually go through people if you don't hit the torso, and I guarantee it's not going through their legs every time.

wait...aiming is fine? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You people even play Chromosome? Did you even play another FPS before DUST? If you did, you'll see aiming sucks. Even CCP admitted aiming sucks cuz they're fixing it as we speak...or attempting to fix it.

In my experience, I've never seen amazing graphics come from Dust. However, I'm using composite instead of HD, so I'm sure those who use HD may have a different experience (gameplay videos from other people look AWESOME compared to what I get).

On that note, I don't see jagged-anything. Everything looks pretty smooth; just not upgraded to the "proto" level of other peoples' graphics


Hit detection, IMO, is the culprit. I hate it when I land two shots on someone with my shotty, and they finish hacking that objective

"Let's make every FPS exactly identical to one another", said no one ever.
However, many FPS are quite similar to each other, due to the relative success each group of companies has experienced in developing these games annually for over a decade. Guidelines have been set, and now the gamer base is experiencing deja vu every time they pick up a new CoD, or a new BF game (picking these because they are the most popular).

When it comes to aiming, real skill is shown in individuals who adapt their hand-eye coordination to whatever system they're exposed to. If the aiming differs, they adapt. Does that make sense?

CoD is much more fast paced. Faster aiming, and very unrealistic.

Dust has slower aiming along with multiple variables affecting individual gameplay, which are all dependent on USER CHOICE and selection in the skill tree, dropsuit deployment, and GAME SETTINGS.


This is New Eden. HTFU

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#thetruthhurts

Btw if your going 15-0 and saying it's fine. Than to each their own.

But I'm going 15-0 and I say it sucks. and I'm one of the last ninja cowboys. (scout with shotty)


also hit detection blows. really? ccp you hate shotties?

I believe a main issue residing within all of the whiners is that you need some sort of crutch to augment your skills.
Once again, learn to adapt to the aiming system.



Comparisons are irrelevant. I was an avid KZ2 fan which I played consistently for many months, and periodically for a few years.

Again, aiming is fine. It's a different system. Hit detection is the culprit, but if you're able to land your sights correctly on target then you should technically be receiving hit feedback.

Blame the servers, not the aiming.

Why are ccp "fixing" aiming if it's not broken?

People have adapted to the ****** aiming, they left and are playing something better.

Comparisons are irrelevant. I was an avid KZ2 fan which I played consistently for many months, and periodically for a few years.

Again, aiming is fine. It's a different system. Hit detection is the culprit, but if you're able to land your sights correctly on target then you should technically be receiving hit feedback.

Blame the servers, not the aiming.

Killzone was designed like that. It had a weighty feeling. DUST wasn't designed the way it is atm. If you played Chromosome you'll see how aiming was, and how it is now.

"Let's make every FPS exactly identical to one another", said no one ever.
However, many FPS are quite similar to each other, due to the relative success each group of companies has experienced in developing these games annually for over a decade. Guidelines have been set, and now the gamer base is experiencing deja vu every time they pick up a new CoD, or a new BF game (picking these because they are the most popular).

When it comes to aiming, real skill is shown in individuals who adapt their hand-eye coordination to whatever system they're exposed to. If the aiming differs, they adapt. Does that make sense?

CoD is much more fast paced. Faster aiming, and very unrealistic.

Dust has slower aiming along with multiple variables affecting individual gameplay, which are all dependent on USER CHOICE and selection in the skill tree, dropsuit deployment, and GAME SETTINGS.


This is New Eden. HTFU

I did play Chromosome. I think Uprising is an improvement in this mechanic.

It's called player demand.

An "issue" is not an issue unless mass attention is brought to it; in this case, aiming has become an issue. It really shouldn't be.
In reality, people should attribute their issues to server lag and poor skills. Otherwise, aiming is fine. It's another SYSTEM which you need to ADAPT to.

Killzone was designed like that. It had a weighty feeling. DUST wasn't designed the way it is atm. If you played Chromosome you'll see how aiming was, and how it is now.

there's a difference with adapting to aiming, and when the system itself is broken. You're telling people aiming is fine, so HTFU... lol

Aiming has been broken since Uprising was released. Sorry, but if you think aiming is fine, you're an idiot.

Designed my ass! Killzone 2 had bad input lag. 3 not so much

Once again you're lacking the comprehension skills necessary to understand the real issues here.

Hit detection is one of the culprits. Server to client connections are another one, as well as latency issues which are probably present in-game, but no one has brought that up yet.


For instance, if I take my AR and I fire a burst shot, I'll hear the sound of 3 bullets whizzing out. The wall I'm shooting at shows three bullet marks.
I take a look at my ammo slot, and notice that only two bullets shot out.

If you burst fire even more rapidly, you'll notice you only shot out one bullet at a time (server registry), when in reality the client portion (which gives you sound feedback) shows that two bullets were fired.

Imagine how firefights play out with this issue? Add in hit detection to top it off.

Most of you just suck at landing your shots


#thetruthhurts

aiming for which weapon? are you claiming to have used all of them extensively enough to be an expert? are you making this statement from personal experience? tell me your thoughts on shotguns, ARs, plasma canons, sniper rifles, tell me how you have used all these weapons and came to the conclusion everyone but you sucks with them.

you seem to have insight the rest of us lack, enlighten us.

Any more strawmans you all want to throw at me? Insults and character attacks?

Or have you all realized you have no valid points to make?

I did play Chromosome. I think Uprising is an improvement in this mechanic.

I think your a bit wonky mate, in the brain.