DUST Search - I think the aiming is perfectly fine

Dr Allopathy wrote:

Vrain Matari wrote:

Well, Dr. Allopathy, assuming you're not trolling.....

When it comes to hit detection, i'm more and more of the opinion that it's really a hitbox lag/network lag issue.

When it come to aiming, it's too consistently clunky to be just a lag issue. And I don't think it's the missing aim assist either, since I've had that turned off since Mordu's private trials. In DUST, most of my fine aiming at range is done with the left stick.

I will tell you this - when i play battlefield(Yay free PS3+ downloads) i know the failings are mine and mine alone. When i play DUST, maybe 5-10% of my deaths are attributable to wonky/failed core mechanics. Just guessing about the 5-10%, i don't keep track of it other than by my annoyance level.

The other thing that tells me those of us are not totally out-to-lunch re the core mechanics is the consistency with which they get mentioned in reviews of DUST.

Just because a company mentions core mechanics or any broad trait inside a review does not mean that it is a major issue lying with the game.

Anyone can go in and put together a run of the mill review. Hell, you can easily use content from other reviews and reword it so that you save the time, effort, and money spent to even play the game (this excludes Dust obviously).

The mechanics are fine.

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Dr Allopathy Raging Pack of Homosapiens 348	Posted - 2013.08.17 20:32:00 - [1] - Quote Most of you just suck at landing your shots #thetruthhurts
Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1262	Posted - 2013.08.17 20:35:00 - [2] - Quote My biggest gripe is actually with the lagging hit boxes. If that was fixed, aiming would be much more reliable.
Medical Crash Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415 93	Posted - 2013.08.17 20:45:00 - [3] - Quote No, you're BLIND. The Acceleration is bad, it's too big, this causes making accurate twitch shots impossible. Also, the sensitivity is too slow, needs to be at least 3 X what the max currently is. Others will agree with me that the aiming is bad.
Dr Allopathy Raging Pack of Homosapiens 348	Posted - 2013.08.17 20:45:00 - [4] - Quote Django Quik wrote: My biggest gripe is actually with the lagging hit boxes. If that was fixed, aiming would be much more reliable. QQ HTFU BKCJKADGE
Dr Allopathy Raging Pack of Homosapiens 348	Posted - 2013.08.17 20:46:00 - [5] - Quote Medical Crash wrote: No, you're BLIND. The Acceleration is bad, it's too big, this causes making accurate twitch shots impossible. Also, the sensitivity is too slow, needs to be at least 3 X what the max currently is. Others will agree with me that the aiming is bad. COD Fanboy spotted If you want better realism, then shut the **** up with the rest of you whiners. COD isn't realistic. Soldiers do not turn that quickly with kilos on the end of their arms. Sensitivity is fine Acceleration from the outset? So you want a crutch for your hand-eye coordination? Lol please
Moejoe Omnipotent Imperfects Negative-Feedback 605	Posted - 2013.08.17 20:50:00 - [6] - Quote lol
Guildo Crow ZionTCD 89	Posted - 2013.08.17 20:54:00 - [7] - Quote Aiming feels fine and all. I just think the server doesn't always seem to register the shots that have landed, even though I get a visual indication saying otherwise. (could be my own network related issues, meh) Also, what's with the Plasma cannon rounds going straight through bodies? do mass drivers and flaylocks experience the same issue?
Aria Gomes DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 12	Posted - 2013.08.17 20:54:00 - [8] - Quote I like the aiming personally. But it's my 1st FPS that I've played all the time and I like it just the way it is. If I were to play any other FPS, I'd probably play better actually.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD 698	Posted - 2013.08.17 21:35:00 - [9] - Quote Well, Dr. Allopathy, assuming you're not trolling..... When it comes to hit detection, i'm more and more of the opinion that it's really a hitbox lag/network lag issue. When it come to aiming, it's too consistently clunky to be just a lag issue. And I don't think it's the missing aim assist either, since I've had that turned off since Mordu's private trials. In DUST, most of my fine aiming at range is done with the left stick. I will tell you this - when i play battlefield(Yay free PS3+ downloads) i know the failings are mine and mine alone. When i play DUST, maybe 5-10% of my deaths are attributable to wonky/failed core mechanics. Just guessing about the 5-10%, i don't keep track of it other than by my annoyance level. The other thing that tells me those of us are not totally out-to-lunch re the core mechanics is the consistency with which they get mentioned in reviews of DUST.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 2757	Posted - 2013.08.17 21:51:00 - [10] - Quote Fits MD, Flaylock, Locus What's this "aiming" you're talking about?

Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 47	Posted - 2013.08.17 22:03:00 - [11] - Quote Dr Allopathy wrote: Most of you just suck at landing your shots #thetruthhurts +1 I have no problem with aiming, just sometimes the hit detection doesn't work to well, and that when i'm trying to rail snipe i can't see the people, only their names
Dr Allopathy Raging Pack of Homosapiens 351	Posted - 2013.08.17 22:06:00 - [12] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Dr Allopathy wrote: Most of you just suck at landing your shots #thetruthhurts +1 I have no problem with aiming, just sometimes the hit detection doesn't work to well, and that when i'm trying to rail snipe i can't see the people, only their names This man knows his stuff
Dr Allopathy Raging Pack of Homosapiens 351	Posted - 2013.08.17 22:17:00 - [13] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: Well, Dr. Allopathy, assuming you're not trolling..... When it comes to hit detection, i'm more and more of the opinion that it's really a hitbox lag/network lag issue. When it come to aiming, it's too consistently clunky to be just a lag issue. And I don't think it's the missing aim assist either, since I've had that turned off since Mordu's private trials. In DUST, most of my fine aiming at range is done with the left stick. I will tell you this - when i play battlefield(Yay free PS3+ downloads) i know the failings are mine and mine alone. When i play DUST, maybe 5-10% of my deaths are attributable to wonky/failed core mechanics. Just guessing about the 5-10%, i don't keep track of it other than by my annoyance level. The other thing that tells me those of us are not totally out-to-lunch re the core mechanics is the consistency with which they get mentioned in reviews of DUST. Just because a company mentions core mechanics or any broad trait inside a review does not mean that it is a major issue lying with the game. Anyone can go in and put together a run of the mill review. Hell, you can easily use content from other reviews and reword it so that you save the time, effort, and money spent to even play the game (this excludes Dust obviously). The mechanics are fine.
KING CHECKMATE Bragian Order Amarr Empire 571	Posted - 2013.08.17 22:19:00 - [14] - Quote Dr Allopathy wrote: Most of you just suck at landing your shots #thetruthhurts Do you use a shotgun as main? No? S*FU then :3
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 7398	Posted - 2013.08.17 22:20:00 - [15] - Quote I'll admit I am the worst judge for if aiming is good or bad as long as I am not fighting the controller.
Dr Allopathy Raging Pack of Homosapiens 352	Posted - 2013.08.17 22:37:00 - [16] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Dr Allopathy wrote: Most of you just suck at landing your shots #thetruthhurts Do you use a shotgun as main? No? S*FU then :3 I use a shotty for fun, and I do pretty well with it :) that's a HIT DETECTION ISSUE learn to read
SERPENT-Adamapple Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 157	Posted - 2013.08.17 22:54:00 - [17] - Quote I've been playing FPS's since Goldeneye 007, and I can tell you that there's a problem with hit detection(after 1.3), and aiming. The hits sometimes do not register for my STD SCR sometimes, as well as other guns. The aiming is wonkey. It jumps around when trying to precisely aim your shots whereas I have to move the left stick(strafe) in order to line up my shots. Op, maybe you should stop using pray and spray weapons or explosive weapons that don't even require precise aiming. Just spam the trigger button. If you do not use weapons like the SCR or TAC AR, then maybe you need to L2A and stop making assumptions that people suck if they don't play like you. Stop being so full of yourself.
HYENAKILLER X TEAM SHINOBI 179	Posted - 2013.08.17 22:56:00 - [18] - Quote All I do is kill
Kane Banned Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2013.08.17 22:57:00 - [19] - Quote Aiming isn't bad but it isn't good either. My biggest problem is the bad hit detection.
KING CHECKMATE Bragian Order Amarr Empire 572	Posted - 2013.08.17 22:59:00 - [20] - Quote Dr Allopathy wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Dr Allopathy wrote: Most of you just suck at landing your shots #thetruthhurts Do you use a shotgun as main? No? S*FU then :3 I use a shotty for fun, and I do pretty well with it :) that's a HIT DETECTION ISSUE learn to read For fun is not the same than maining a weapon. Of course you'll feel its good since its not the weapon you depend on every match. The aiming is fine, but hit detection is not.So overall aiming still doesnt work? no? Sorry my main language is not english so i misunderstand stuff sometimes. I stand corrected.

Minor Treat The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 50	Posted - 2013.08.17 23:01:00 - [21] - Quote Well the reality is they are changing the aiming system by turning on the aim assist bud. Get use to it. You can complain no different from anyone else or just roll with it. If your shots are already good than your shooting is only going to get better with the aim assist not get worse.
RejectedUsername The Southern Legion 3	Posted - 2013.08.17 23:10:00 - [22] - Quote aiming needs to be a tad bit smoother then i will be happy
Skidd McMarx DUST University Ivy League 6	Posted - 2013.08.17 23:46:00 - [23] - Quote Dr Allopathy wrote: Most of you just suck at landing your shots #thetruthhurts go play any other first-person shooter, and say that.
Argon Gas Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 120	Posted - 2013.08.17 23:54:00 - [24] - Quote Realism should never EVER be considerd when talking about aiming. Killzone 2 tried to do more realistic aiming that feel weighty, and EVERYONE hated that, they put a switch in that allows you to turn it off.
Spaceman-Rob Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 147	Posted - 2013.08.18 00:30:00 - [25] - Quote For gods sake man, have none of you played a fps outside of dust, 2 perfect examples of aiming in a fps that work are borderlands 1/2 and bad company 2, the aiming in dust is not perfectly fine as stated in the title of this thread. I think some of you spend far to much time playing dust and have forgotten what good aiming is.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD 700	Posted - 2013.08.18 13:11:00 - [26] - Quote Dr Allopathy wrote: Vrain Matari wrote: Well, Dr. Allopathy, assuming you're not trolling..... When it comes to hit detection, i'm more and more of the opinion that it's really a hitbox lag/network lag issue. When it come to aiming, it's too consistently clunky to be just a lag issue. And I don't think it's the missing aim assist either, since I've had that turned off since Mordu's private trials. In DUST, most of my fine aiming at range is done with the left stick. I will tell you this - when i play battlefield(Yay free PS3+ downloads) i know the failings are mine and mine alone. When i play DUST, maybe 5-10% of my deaths are attributable to wonky/failed core mechanics. Just guessing about the 5-10%, i don't keep track of it other than by my annoyance level. The other thing that tells me those of us are not totally out-to-lunch re the core mechanics is the consistency with which they get mentioned in reviews of DUST. Just because a company mentions core mechanics or any broad trait inside a review does not mean that it is a major issue lying with the game. Anyone can go in and put together a run of the mill review. Hell, you can easily use content from other reviews and reword it so that you save the time, effort, and money spent to even play the game (this excludes Dust obviously). The mechanics are fine. I have to thank you for a good chuckle, Doc. In fact a day later it still bring a grin to my face. Yesterday. Skim Junction. You and your crew were camping the roof of the mushroom over bravo. I had gone out to recover delta and had to make my way back over the open killing field to the compound. So i did the drunken master walk across the field of death. Not sure how many of you were up there, i know i was taking fire from a sniper rifle and an AR. But i made it, tucked myself behind the cover of the wall with 80 armor left to heal up. The sniper had tagged me once and the AR had been landing sporadic pepper on me. And then you got me, Doc, but it was sooo worth the death when i saw the killfeed.....Doctor Allopathy(EXO-5 Mass Driver)Vrain Matari. Man i laughed. Still chuckling
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5765	Posted - 2013.08.18 13:54:00 - [27] - Quote So what you're saying is that CCP doesn't know what they're doing with their game what so ever and thusly are wasting countless hours working on a system that's already perfect? Brilliant, seems legit
crispipin The Vanguardians 2	Posted - 2013.08.18 14:08:00 - [28] - Quote Medical Crash wrote: Also, the sensitivity is too slow Sensitivity too slow? Solution: Change your sensitivity
XiBravo TeamPlayers EoN. 164	Posted - 2013.08.18 14:13:00 - [29] - Quote Dr Allopathy wrote: I think the aiming is perfectly fine Spoken like a true novice.
crispipin The Vanguardians 2	Posted - 2013.08.18 14:24:00 - [30] - Quote Fun Fact: Did you know that in Dust 514, you could change your sensitivity if you think the sensitivity is wonkey? If you do then there is no reason to complain about the sensitivity in this game. I think the aiming is just fine but not the hit detection.



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