OK, so the prevalence of fat suits running AR's/MD's and now the rise of the Forge Gun Snipers has become such common place on the battle field we need to look at how the role of the heavy needs a rethink.

Personally; heavies should not be able to equip light weapons. It's basically some idiot with a crap gun game that needs to be protected by tons of EHP because he/she hasn't got the skill to run a proper suit. Make it so that heavies can only use heavy weapons and a sidearm.

Forge Guns; such a stupid weapon! It does more damage than a tank turret and cost significantly less. Having forge gunners hiding in the hills popping infantry like they are ants isn't what I think CCP was expecting the gun to be used for. There is no "fall off" on damage for the range and it can be damn near impossible to determine the location of the heavy (at least there is a sniper trail from a sniper rifle).

Forge Gun suggestions:

1) Increase the cost of forge guns to be in-line with tank turret costs; come on, they are pretty much the same thing, they should cost serious ISK.

2) Make forge guns ineffective against infantry; sure people will cry about this, but isn't the forge gun supposed to be an AV weapon??

3) Forge Guns should increase the sig radius of the heavy so they can be swarmed! Yes, that's right, you use your forge gun its expands your sig radius so much that my friends proto swarms can lock you!

4) Add an "ionised trail" back to the location of the heavy! Seriously, that much energy would probably leave a trail of some kind!!

Yes, I've been touched in a bad place by too many heavies.

Comments/trolls/grief welcome.

o/

Lol seriously?
1. Sure if you give me the survivability of a tank and speed.
2. It isn't a AV, it supposed to be for both.
3. Lolwut? Heavies are already squishy enough
4. Lolno, it's already in a disadvantage. Try looking around. .

Lol dude this post seriously fails so hard. Rising the cost to the same as a turrent? Lol that's dumb, try using the gun and tell me how good you do with it. Please stop posting. And only allow heavies to use heavy weaponry only is dumb as heck. Hmg isn't where it should be power wise. And it's fun running around with a sniper in a fat suit lol Stop posting

OK, so the prevalence of fat suits running AR's/MD's and now the rise of the Forge Gun Snipers has become such common place on the battle field we need to look at how the role of the heavy needs a rethink.

Personally; heavies should not be able to equip light weapons. It's basically some idiot with a crap gun game that needs to be protected by tons of EHP because he/she hasn't got the skill to run a proper suit. Make it so that heavies can only use heavy weapons and a sidearm.

Forge Guns; such a stupid weapon! It does more damage than a tank turret and cost significantly less. Having forge gunners hiding in the hills popping infantry like they are ants isn't what I think CCP was expecting the gun to be used for. There is no "fall off" on damage for the range and it can be damn near impossible to determine the location of the heavy (at least there is a sniper trail from a sniper rifle).

Forge Gun suggestions:

1) Increase the cost of forge guns to be in-line with tank turret costs; come on, they are pretty much the same thing, they should cost serious ISK.

2) Make forge guns ineffective against infantry; sure people will cry about this, but isn't the forge gun supposed to be an AV weapon??

3) Forge Guns should increase the sig radius of the heavy so they can be swarmed! Yes, that's right, you use your forge gun its expands your sig radius so much that my friends proto swarms can lock you!

4) Add an "ionised trail" back to the location of the heavy! Seriously, that much energy would probably leave a trail of some kind!!

Yes, I've been touched in a bad place by too many heavies.

Comments/trolls/grief welcome.

o/

I'll bet you also want an under barrel swarm launcher attachment on that AR you run?
On the off chance you arent an AR scrub, I offer you my amazement at your stupidity. You know, cause ARs being foolish is forum common occurrence.

Oh dude, did I suggest ways to mess up your game? Oh dear, sorry abt that. Would have been nice to have a proper response, so I will chalk this one under troll/grief.

Pointless response is pointless.... but no, I'm an SMG scout FYI.

Lol! You're such an idiot. Before you talk please educated yourself on the gun

1. It's not a AV
2. The gun takes more skill than using a AR. you also have less survivability than a tank which is why it doesn't cost the same as a turrent.
And before you say this hurts me stop sounding like a selfish a*s. i actually have almost every weapon in the game on this character at advanced level. So I know wtf I'm talking about when it comes to weaponry

Dude, you need to smoke something, your gunna have an heart attack before your 40 (unless you're 40 then dude your gunna have one soonGäó). Why so angry, suggestions are what make the game evolve, good and bad.

OK, so the prevalence of fat suits running AR's/MD's and now the rise of the Forge Gun Snipers has become such common place on the battle field we need to look at how the role of the heavy needs a rethink.

Personally; heavies should not be able to equip light weapons. It's basically some idiot with a crap gun game that needs to be protected by tons of EHP because he/she hasn't got the skill to run a proper suit. Make it so that heavies can only use heavy weapons and a sidearm.

Forge Guns; such a stupid weapon! It does more damage than a tank turret and cost significantly less. Having forge gunners hiding in the hills popping infantry like they are ants isn't what I think CCP was expecting the gun to be used for. There is no "fall off" on damage for the range and it can be damn near impossible to determine the location of the heavy (at least there is a sniper trail from a sniper rifle).

Forge Gun suggestions:

1) Increase the cost of forge guns to be in-line with tank turret costs; come on, they are pretty much the same thing, they should cost serious ISK.

2) Make forge guns ineffective against infantry; sure people will cry about this, but isn't the forge gun supposed to be an AV weapon??

3) Forge Guns should increase the sig radius of the heavy so they can be swarmed! Yes, that's right, you use your forge gun its expands your sig radius so much that my friends proto swarms can lock you!

4) Add an "ionised trail" back to the location of the heavy! Seriously, that much energy would probably leave a trail of some kind!!

Yes, I've been touched in a bad place by too many heavies.

Comments/trolls/grief welcome.

o/

a well reasoned, adult, response ..

This guy needs to go play something else........someone's butthurt about forge gunners.....OK here's the issue..

Strafing, open maps, and the crappy range and accuracy of the hmg have lead to this.....now the only truly effective weapon the heavy has is the fg .....this is what happens when you nerf stuff that doesn't need to be nerfed and buff things that just make your other nees worse.....

if the heavy suit should only use heavy weapon slots..

then i guess we could all spec into commando suit and use hmgs and forge guns to kill u with!....

hmg for ppl who try to sneak up on us.. and the forge gun to shoot u from a distance!
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i know but his idea esseintaily mean that heavy suits can only use heavy weapon so that mean the commando suit would have to get its 2 light weapon slots turned into 2 heavy weapon slots..

OK, so the prevalence of fat suits running AR's/MD's and now the rise of the Forge Gun Snipers has become such common place on the battle field we need to look at how the role of the heavy needs a rethink.

Personally; heavies should not be able to equip light weapons. It's basically some idiot with a crap gun game that needs to be protected by tons of EHP because he/she hasn't got the skill to run a proper suit. Make it so that heavies can only use heavy weapons and a sidearm.

Forge Guns; such a stupid weapon! It does more damage than a tank turret and cost significantly less. Having forge gunners hiding in the hills popping infantry like they are ants isn't what I think CCP was expecting the gun to be used for. There is no "fall off" on damage for the range and it can be damn near impossible to determine the location of the heavy (at least there is a sniper trail from a sniper rifle).

Forge Gun suggestions:

1) Increase the cost of forge guns to be in-line with tank turret costs; come on, they are pretty much the same thing, they should cost serious ISK.

2) Make forge guns ineffective against infantry; sure people will cry about this, but isn't the forge gun supposed to be an AV weapon??

3) Forge Guns should increase the sig radius of the heavy so they can be swarmed! Yes, that's right, you use your forge gun its expands your sig radius so much that my friends proto swarms can lock you!

4) Add an "ionised trail" back to the location of the heavy! Seriously, that much energy would probably leave a trail of some kind!!

Yes, I've been touched in a bad place by too many heavies.

1) Increase the cost of forge guns to be in-line with tank turret costs; come on, they are pretty much the same thing, they should cost serious ISK.

NO.A heavy does not have the 8000+ HP a tanker has to obviously they need to be cheaper.

2) Make forge guns ineffective against infantry; sure people will cry about this, but isn't the forge gun supposed to be an AV weapon??

No its an antimaterial weapon. Its supposed to be effective against EVERYTHING.

3) Forge Guns should increase the sig radius of the heavy so they can be swarmed! Yes, that's right, you use your forge gun its expands your sig radius so much that my friends proto swarms can lock you!

Thats as stupid as this post.

4) Add an "ionised trail" back to the location of the heavy! Seriously, that much energy would probably leave a trail of some kind!!

That wouldn't be to bad.

Yes, I've been touched in a bad place by too many heavies.

THANK MURDER TAXIS

o/

So, a fool who's never played heavies want to duguise a FG nerf thread under the guise of rethinking the heavy.

FG's have alpha. Rails have DPS. Balanced.

Heavies slower then tanks. Balanced.

Heavies take full damage from small arms. Balanced.

FG sniping is exactly the same as normal sniping only no scope, low ROF, OHK smaller suits, and can only be used by heavies. Balanced.

The heavy is used with ARs cause fools like you who know nothing about the heavy suit got annoyed a Snail Suit with a good gun killed you and your AR consistently.

Thread invalidated, and brought to light.

GTFO.

The forge gun is in a perfect place right now, it is in fact a very large scopeless sniper rifle, same technology, some long range strategy that the Caldari utilize, just a bigger bullet.

We have very few good weapons in the game AR, ScrR, SR, MD, and forges. That is about it, and you are talking about nerfing the least used weapon with the lowest k/d ratio in the list.

I don't think a forge gun sniper should be able to take out a sniper literally half the map away.....don't get me wrong it must have been a good shot....but seriously, forge gun sniping needs to stop especially if it takes 3-6 shots to take out a heavy.

Not trolling, just tired of being out sniped by a style-less sniper that shoots a flipping bomb!!!!

IMO forge gun sniping is for people that don't have the accuracy to use a sniper.

There's 10 cents, my 2 cents is free

yeah, it's EXACTLY like the caldari strategy because it's a caldari weapon