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CuuCH Crusher
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.17 02:28:00 -
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I thought it was to keep hardcore players from out pacing casuals/new players.
Wouldn't it be better if CCP took 25% of the player with the most lifetime SP and made that the starting SP for new players? This would allow new/ casual players to defend themselves better. |
Shokhann Echo
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.08.17 02:30:00 -
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it was originally put in place so the people that don't have time to play the game wont feel so behind real gamers.....
needless to say it backfired miserably and even the real gamers wont log on anymore..
bottom line, casuals should never be able to make real gamers suffer, but that is what happened. |
Chris F2112
187.
318
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Posted - 2013.08.17 02:30:00 -
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It would also ruin any reason to get more sp after a time because you can simply create a new character and fill out a full role. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
7378
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Posted - 2013.08.17 02:32:00 -
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There are players who already achieved 10% of the total max SP already... |
negative49er
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
116
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Posted - 2013.08.17 03:00:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There are players who already achieved 10% of the total max SP already...
Because they are getting twice the sp because of the boosters |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1752
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Posted - 2013.08.17 03:26:00 -
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The cap is a terrible idea, hell the entire leveling system we currently have is a terrible idea
It needs much consolidation and SP prices cut across the board
Inb4 But then theres no content
Time locking things is not creating content |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
1145
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Posted - 2013.08.17 03:28:00 -
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to punish new players and turn them away running forever. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
EoN.
1670
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Posted - 2013.08.17 03:29:00 -
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To ensure that new players can never catch up to the established player base. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star.
EoN.
731
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Posted - 2013.08.17 04:07:00 -
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negative49er wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There are players who already achieved 10% of the total max SP already... Because they are getting twice the sp because of the boosters
Because this is what funds ... the game?
To OP: Cuz if no SP cap, why buy passive boosters?  |
demonkiller 12
Seraphim Auxiliaries
106
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Posted - 2013.08.17 04:36:00 -
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negative49er wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There are players who already achieved 10% of the total max SP already... Because they are getting twice the sp because of the boosters
x 0.5 and even less if they arnt using passive boosters, that being said, without boosters theyd still be at 16mil sp probably closer to 20 if they didnt use passive boosters |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
583
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Posted - 2013.08.17 04:50:00 -
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The cap is there so newer players can't catch up..I've got 13m and that's enough to compete for pc but not very good options |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
2738
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Posted - 2013.08.17 04:52:00 -
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Still waiting for the reason why they scrapped the rollover SP system we voted for. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
1146
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Posted - 2013.08.17 05:37:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Still waiting for the reason why they scrapped the rollover SP system we voted for.
need i say more? |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
1014
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Posted - 2013.08.17 05:42:00 -
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I would like to see a global cap, which means the most anybody could have gotten, is the new cap. So if you are at that point, you can only get 190k + passive each week. |
CuuCH Crusher
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
204
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Posted - 2013.08.17 06:18:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:I would like to see a global cap, which means the most anybody could have gotten, is the new cap. So if you are at that point, you can only get 190k + passive each week.
That's actually a pretty good idea. You would see alot more AFK though  |
Funkmaster Whale
0uter.Heaven
EoN.
241
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Posted - 2013.08.17 07:18:00 -
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CuuCH Crusher wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:I would like to see a global cap, which means the most anybody could have gotten, is the new cap. So if you are at that point, you can only get 190k + passive each week. That's actually a pretty good idea. You would see alot more AFK though
Not if they only gave SP for WP. :] |
Marc Rime
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
120
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Posted - 2013.08.17 07:42:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Time locking things is not creating content
Indeed.
Then again, without the cap people would no doubt be demanding new skills by now since SP grinding is the only "content" we have. By now, even if they add some real content and better reasons for playing the game will still revolve around SP rather than, well, whatever they add... kinda sad. |
Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
462
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Posted - 2013.08.17 07:52:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:negative49er wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There are players who already achieved 10% of the total max SP already... Because they are getting twice the sp because of the boosters x 0.5 and even less if they arnt using passive boosters, that being said, without boosters theyd still be at 16mil sp probably closer to 20 if they didnt use passive boosters
When people say times .x instead of 1.x.... It fills me with hatred for them. |
Zero Harpuia
WarRavens
League of Infamy
652
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Posted - 2013.08.17 08:40:00 -
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Shokhann Echo wrote:it was originally put in place so the people that don't have time to play the game wont feel so behind real gamers.....
needless to say it backfired miserably and even the real gamers wont log on anymore..
bottom line, casuals should never be able to make real gamers suffer, but that is what happened.
Your 'real gamers' shtick is arse in text form, but you have the general idea. It was meant to be used to prevent people from grinding out everything in a week, but also to promote daily/weekly play. With new players coming in, they were meant to go through the same steps.
This is NOT, however, a 'filthy casuals ruin my fun' thing.
The game world is FAR too small for the newer players to succeed while under cap restrictions. In EVE I can just put around in Hi Sec to avoid the PvP, Low to avoid the big scary ships, and only go to null/wormhole when ready. here, everyone of every tier is jumbled together, some solo and some grouped, so in EVE terms a newbie corp can have a Titan hottdropped onto them at any time, perhaps a fleet of supercaps, and they just have to take it. Meanwhile, the Supercap corps have no reliable way to confront other Supercap corps and no incentive to even try. Ergo, the players are all thrown into a blender with the top left off and what we have left are those who haven't given up. The new players that can't catch up are hopelessly outclassed gear wise, the old players are hampered by random teams, and the big fish can't find a way to beat each other over the head so they're stuck in a small pond.
In short, the SP cap is only part of the problem, the crap matchmaking and lack of endgame exacerbate it into a fullon shitstorm.
Subpoint: Defining people by 'casual' and 'real' is idiotic. |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
403
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Posted - 2013.08.17 09:10:00 -
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to sell AUR |
richiesutie 2
Seraphim Auxiliaries
236
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Posted - 2013.08.17 09:11:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:negative49er wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There are players who already achieved 10% of the total max SP already... Because they are getting twice the sp because of the boosters x 0.5 and even less if they arnt using passive boosters, that being said, without boosters theyd still be at 16mil sp probably closer to 20 if they didnt use passive boosters When people say times .x instead of 1.x.... It fills me with hatred for them.
I feel your pain. |
Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
104
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Posted - 2013.08.17 10:20:00 -
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Cap exists to pad CCPs pockets, plain and simple. It's not about preventing new players from catching up because at around 15 mil SP you can pretty much roll with the big boys in all the ways that matter. If you want to get there faster, you need to buy boosters and hence purchase Aurum.
Imagine what it'd be like if there was no cap. If the SP gain rate remained the same, I would earn 800k SP a week from active alone by playing during evenings and on weekends. With the purchase of a single Merc Pack and buying another active booster with the AUR, I could get around 11 mil SP in two months time, including unboosted passive.
With the present cap it'd take 3.5 months for me to earn that much, and that's with running actives and Omega passives.
So in the first instance I can spend $20 to get 11 mil, but in the second I'd need to spend at least $70ish to reach that much SP. If I didn't use boosters at all, I'd need nearly 6 months to get that much SP. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1226
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Posted - 2013.08.17 11:07:00 -
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Rolling cap, rolling cap, rolling cap.
Where's our damn rolling cap already? |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
913
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Posted - 2013.08.17 11:08:00 -
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Boosters |
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