My Character is an Former Black Eagle agent seeking to shed light and throw away the corruption within the Federation's governance.

It was pretty cool to think and write about it. I spent a hell of a lot of time looking into EVE lore to create this character.

I can't wait until we can have character bios so I can explain the full background of my character (which I already wrote out because I have no life whatsoever...)

My Character is an Former Black Eagle agent seeking to shed light and throw away the corruption within the Federation's governance.

It was pretty cool to think and write about it. I spent a hell of a lot of time looking into EVE lore to create this character.

I can't wait until we can have character bios so I can explain the full background of my character (which I already wrote out because I have no life whatsoever...)

That is a nice character.

Mine is a former Sarum Imperial Guardsman, killed on Amamake, and made into a Templar.

((Since we're already being somewhat OOC; do the Caldari have an elite unit, like the Galette Black Eagles? I tried looking it up but... couldn't find anything.))

((Let's get back into character, folks.))
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Mr. Kalamari, I do see, understand, and to a large degree agree with your concerns. I do suspect, however, that much of where all of this comes from is the backgrounds of the visitors here.

We are mostly soldiers. At most, we may have been officers; many were probably just talented rank and file.

Such people are typically subject to the sort of programming that makes a soldier eager to fire a weapon. It results in a certain amount of extremism and jingoism, but it also makes them more effective killers in service to their respective masters. As much as I consider it my responsibility to recognize the humanity of my enemy even as I kill him, I also recognize that this is not an easy thing for most to do.

They are soldiers, specialized in killing and conditioned to kill without hesitation. It may be too much to ask them to be diplomats, at least in the near term.

Of course, as they are now mercenaries with extraordinarily broad discretion in their doings, they can now broadly free themselves of that role and its mentality, if they wish to. Perhaps those of us with more ... unusual backgrounds may be able to help with that.

Please elaborate on what you consider... unusual backgrounds, would you?

Please elaborate on what you consider... unusual backgrounds, would you?

((I don't really have anything in character to say, but I really hope you don't think True Adamance and I are Amarr fanatics. That is not either of our characters. All we've done is state our beliefs and correct those who bear false claims against our Empire.))

((I don't think you're fanatics, but my point still stands. If you have nothing worthy of adding, don't reply. If you want to talk with me, use PMs or the DUST OOC thread. I find it annoying when people just comment OOCly on my threads.))
I really wish they could fix these threads of all the static and other disturbances, it's starting to get annoying when it disrupts the discussion.

It sounds like you want a total peace throughout the four major empires Mr. Kalamari. Why would a merc want peace it is our job to conduct war. What you desire seems rather stupid in my opinion wanting to loose your job and all. Well maybe not , there are many private contractors in new Eden that would hire a merc to fight against their hostile enemies.

( wow a gallente who isn't crazy nice topic +1 )

I'm not desiring peace, I know that is an impossible goal to achieve. What I am trying to achieve here is independence from the empires of New Eden, to not blindly follow their ideals and their orders just because we were told so. Right now we are extremely dependent on them, they make our weapons, our dropsuits, modules and everything else you use in combat, and because we all were trained in the clone soldier program more or less, we have tendencies to show alarming amounts of fanaticism to our own nations. I believe that when capsuleers or other non-empire afflicted groups starts building our gear, funding our wars and hiring our services, have we taken a step to the right direction. That may be a long time before it actually happens, but when we stop unquestionably following orders and start thinking critically of what we do, have we made progress.

And I am Intaki, not Gallente.

I am a loyalist. This defines me as a person. I have nothing to fight for without the Empire. I have no desire to own my own space, nor to make ISK, nor to fight as a mercenary.

I want to help my people, so I fight their wars so they do not have to.

I understand, and I accept your point, the loyalty to the empires in itself isn't the problem, it is when it becomes unquestioning and blind.

I remember what happened long time ago,like it had happen yesterday.My family lived in little town with gallente,minmatar,caldari families,heck my best childhood friend was caldari girl,aristas nehem was her name.All of us lived in peace with eachothers,untill that dark day came.Caldaris and ammarians arrived and horrors started,bloodshead and massacre is too gently words to desscribe what happened,also our former caldari neighbours participated and helped those caldari and ammarian death squads to round up and kill every gallente and minmatar man,woman,and childs.Only who survived was handfull of people me included only to see our fathers,mothers,sisters and brothers lying lifeless in massgraves.Those horrible days started my discust and hate to caldari and ammarian empires and last i have to say,im product of those events and thats why every change i get i strike and try to find those who is responsible and make them pay

I'm not desiring peace, I know that is an impossible goal to achieve. What I am trying to achieve here is independence from the empires of New Eden, to not blindly follow their ideals and their orders just because we were told so. Right now we are extremely dependent on them, they make our weapons, our dropsuits, modules and everything else you use in combat, and because we all were trained in the clone soldier program more or less, we have tendencies to show alarming amounts of fanaticism to our own nations. I believe that when capsuleers or other non-empire afflicted groups starts building our gear, funding our wars and hiring our services, have we taken a step to the right direction. That may be a long time before it actually happens, but when we stop unquestionably following orders and start thinking critically of what we do, have we made progress.

And I am Intaki, not Gallente.

Honestly, I have a hard time taking anything Sergamon claims seriously, since he seems to have conflicting ideals depending on the argument, makes baseless threats towards innocent people and can barely write coherent sentences.

Ok my native language isn`t english,and that`s why my texts may be full of typo and errors.Maybe that is the reason why mr kalamari read my text wrong,In there was no threats against innocent people,only threats i make was against those who is responsible of those crimes.Heck this is my character and it has his own opinions,ideals,motivation etc etc,like real world people will have diffrent point of wiew how they deal with things,and those ideals,opinion,reasons makes world/new eden more intresting place(and is top of the list when asked why i play dust)So mr kalamari you dont take me seriously and are eager to comment my text,ok that is your opinion and it is your right to say so and it is your right also play your character like "people commissar of dust forums"

Mr adamance no im not ruled anger,im seeking justice for those 863 people who died in those days.And justice they and those who are responsible of those 863 deaths,those people who is quilty of those deaths,they will see that they cannot hide or escape from justice or punishment what they deserves.You say those caldari civilians had to help,but i did see how they enjoyed what they did,they enjoyed when they molested girls and womans,they enjoyed when caldari reqular killed baby with knive and they enjoy when.....But no more in that what they did.They were no slavers or blood raides, they was unit from Caldari Marine Expeditionary Forces with mission to kill and wipe out gallente and minmatar civilians,reason why i know is that insignia of Caldari Marine Expeditionary Forces has etch in my mind and i have crossed path with c.m.e.f with same emblems.

Mr adamance no im not ruled anger,im seeking justice for those 863 people who died in those days.And justice they and those who are responsible of those 863 deaths,those people who is quilty of those deaths,they will see that they cannot hide or escape from justice or punishment what they deserves.You say those caldari civilians had to help,but i did see how they enjoyed what they did,they enjoyed when they molested girls and womans,they enjoyed when caldari reqular killed baby with knive and they enjoy when.....But no more in that what they did.They were no slavers or blood raides, they was unit from Caldari Marine Expeditionary Forces with mission to kill and wipe out gallente and minmatar civilians,reason why i know is that insignia of Caldari Marine Expeditionary Forces has etch in my mind and i have crossed path with c.m.e.f with same emblems.

I know that there is possibility, that dragonaurs are responsible for those heinous acts.I have also in my writings told,my opinion and views about caldari and ammarian people.Someone could say that im racist and fanatic,but in my defence those opinions and views did started after what happened in those days.I have to say that i have never attacked against civilian targets,Also i condemn any act of terror against civilians.I know also none of the factions can say "we dont have anything wrong doings in our conscience" And what mr adamance pointed out,ethnic cleansing of 863 people would have been reported somewhere.I have tried to get raport of that incident,and only reply i got "There isn`t any mention of incident like this in records"Sound`s very strange,but strange thing also is that i cant remember anything of my childhood prior to the event.Before that thing diden`t bother me,untill i heard this conspiracy theory "Factions possess the kind of technology that can replace the memories with new memories" After this i have started to think,if that is possible are they doing it to people in program,to get fanatical fighters.

An interesting insight into Mr Draco, though as I said before to the Amarr molestation is a sin. Soldiers of the Empire do not do such things.

I don't deny what Ryeon-haani informed us of, they have committed horrible acts. Still, most are only acting according to what they think is best for the State. They can also be valuable allies if you commit to the Caldari cause. The team I was in was only one link in a chain of intelligence sleepers they have across Pure Blind. There was a time when they worked directy with the Provosts in exchange for ensured amnesty if an agent was ever compramised. For us, it wasn't about the killing. It was about doing what was best for our State.

Of course.

But that is what a fanatic is, Fae-haan: someone who embraces a perceived truth fully, utterly, without question or space for doubt. It's not someone who loves to kill; it's someone who kills out of deep conviction that they are doing what is right, what needs to be done.

The Templis are not evil. They do not need to be. They need only be disastrously mistaken.

Like the Amarr, they do what they believe they must. Unlike the Amarr, their concern is narrowed to a relatively small group of people: the ethnic Caldari-- but also unlike the Amarr, they see the rest of us as a severe problem.

For the Caldari to be alone again, at home on their frozen world with the Winds to guide them: that is the Dragonaur prayer. To be left entirely alone. Even the Intaki and Achura are an affront to them.

They are fools longing for a lost past. That they are not necessarily evil does not make them any less fools, or any less brutal, ruthless, or deadly.

I've never been good at speaking out about big issues. I take a stand of neutrality, if you will. I long for peace within the galaxy, and throughout the universe, so I'm not really one to attack others ideals in defense of my own. And if I ever do, I've got a damn good reason. I will defend my own thoughts, but only if I am certain they are just. I always like to take a look at the whole picture rather than taking a side and rambling on about trivial things. It's just a waste of time.

As for people who are so vehement upon following an idea without question or reason, those are the people who I get into fights with. I'm generally not an angry person, but I won't sit by and let someone mindlessly blasphemize everyone else in the name of their own ideas. If you want people to know that you stand for something, that sure as hell isn't the way to do it. It's a slow process, one that takes respect and discipline. One who doesn't take these into account is risking looking like a fool. And who is going to take you or what you stand for seriously if you're being a fool about it?

I can understand mild fanatacism, it happens. But people who just go off for no reason at all... I think it's a huge contributor to the reason we're fighting in the first place. I'm waiting for the day all of us can just shut up and come together as the United Universal Republic Federal Empire State.

Or something like that.

They also typically don't smile upon half-breeds, but for reasons that still puzzle me to this day an exception was made.

You have to remember, it was YC110. After the 5th took Caldari Prime, the dream of Caldari isolationism seemed within reach. For a teenager whose only other option in life would have been repairing dropships for an ever-increasing sea of mercenaries for the Legion, the Dragonaurs seemed like heroes. Even if some in our team were not entirely supportive of the Dragonaur's past, we all felt that they were a means to finally securing our homeworld. It was our duty as ethnic Caldari to help our race reclaim what we had lost. We were all just playing our part to help the greater good of the State.

I hope that might serve as insight into my reasons for defending individuality over collectivism today.

Well ... the Dragonaurs are surely focused on the common good of the Caldari, it is true. Broadly, however, much harm is done by true believers of all ideologies. It is difficult to say whether "collectivism" is really more troublesome in this way than individualism.

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In the end, it does not seem to be so much a question of which is better as a question of what each approach is good for. I am pro-community, largely because that approach lends itself to relative peace and order, and allows the patterns the community enshrines to persist, relatively unchanged, for a long, long time.

I wish to see my faith and culture survive. Thus, favoring the community over the individual is a matter of utility for me, not of high ideal.

I haven't heard of any mass movement of our people to Caldari territory so I don't know about conditions there.

I like to think I take a more moderate view on most subjects. Combat is best suited to the battlefield.


Unlike most of my brothers and sisters I merely wish to see my people free to make real choices about their lives. As of now we pretty much get Cartel, slave, be surrounded by racists(sorry Federation but its true if not on a grand scale), or be a citizen of a economically troubled Tribal-Republic. I haven't heard of any mass movement of our people to Caldari territory so I don't know about conditions there.
Not exactly the good life any way around.

However if slavers are involved I want them to die, or if it threatens my people I will fight tooth and nail against it.