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Galm Fae
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Posted - 2013.08.16 21:54:00 -
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I like to think several of my reasons for my beliefs are justified, but I suppose I see your point. |
Galm Fae
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Posted - 2013.08.19 00:11:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote:I know that there is possibility, that dragonaurs are responsible for those heinous acts.I have also in my writings told,my opinion and views about caldari and ammarian people.Someone could say that im racist and fanatic,but in my defence those opinions and views did started after what happened in those days.I have to say that i have never attacked against civilian targets,Also i condemn any act of terror against civilians.I know also none of the factions can say "we dont have anything wrong doings in our conscience" And what mr adamance pointed out,ethnic cleansing of 863 people would have been reported somewhere.I have tried to get raport of that incident,and only reply i got "There isn`t any mention of incident like this in records"Sound`s very strange,but strange thing also is that i cant remember anything of my childhood prior to the event.Before that thing diden`t bother me,untill i heard this conspiracy theory "Factions possess the kind of technology that can replace the memories with new memories" After this i have started to think,if that is possible are they doing it to people in program,to get fanatical fighters. An interesting insight into Mr Draco, though as I said before to the Amarr molestation is a sin. Soldiers of the Empire do not do such things.
Adamance is telling the truth Draco. Ethnic cleansing just doesn't make sense from the Amarr point of view. Not only is it out of their moral code, but it counteracts the entire point of Reclamation: to incorperate outside cultures and peoples into the Amarr faith. They seek to assimilate, not exterminate.
Not to say that it never happens. The Amarr just aren't the ones that get their hands dirty. They would much rather outsource the violence to commandos and turn a blind eye to the destruction they cause while Amarr forces focus on more important matters whenever a population is declared a "lost cause."
I've been in the ranks of the Dragonaurs, and I can tell you that you don't give them enough credit. I don't deny what Ryeon-haani informed us of, they have committed horrible acts. Still, most are only acting according to what they think is best for the State. They can also be valuable allies if you commit to the Caldari cause. The team I was in was only one link in a chain of intelligence sleepers they have across Pure Blind. There was a time when they worked directy with the Provosts in exchange for ensured amnesty if an agent was ever compramised. For us, it wasn't about the killing. It was about doing what was best for our State.
Dragonaur teams are across the cluster conducting psy-ops and search and destory missions, but that is only one face of their operations. |
Galm Fae
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Posted - 2013.08.19 03:23:00 -
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Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:Galm Fae wrote:I don't deny what Ryeon-haani informed us of, they have committed horrible acts. Still, most are only acting according to what they think is best for the State. They can also be valuable allies if you commit to the Caldari cause. The team I was in was only one link in a chain of intelligence sleepers they have across Pure Blind. There was a time when they worked directy with the Provosts in exchange for ensured amnesty if an agent was ever compramised. For us, it wasn't about the killing. It was about doing what was best for our State. Of course. But that is what a fanatic is, Fae-haan: someone who embraces a perceived truth fully, utterly, without question or space for doubt. It's not someone who loves to kill; it's someone who kills out of deep conviction that they are doing what is right, what needs to be done. The Templis are not evil. They do not need to be. They need only be disastrously mistaken. Like the Amarr, they do what they believe they must. Unlike the Amarr, their concern is narrowed to a relatively small group of people: the ethnic Caldari-- but also unlike the Amarr, they see the rest of us as a severe problem. For the Caldari to be alone again, at home on their frozen world with the Winds to guide them: that is the Dragonaur prayer. To be left entirely alone. Even the Intaki and Achura are an affront to them. They are fools longing for a lost past. That they are not necessarily evil does not make them any less fools, or any less brutal, ruthless, or deadly.
They also typically don't smile upon half-breeds, but for reasons that still puzzle me to this day an exception was made.
You have to remember, it was YC110. After the 5th took Caldari Prime, the dream of Caldari isolationism seemed within reach. For a teenager whose only other option in life would have been repairing dropships for an ever-increasing sea of mercenaries for the Legion, the Dragonaurs seemed like heroes. Even if some in our team were not entirely supportive of the Dragonaur's past, we all felt that they were a means to finally securing our homeworld. It was our duty as ethnic Caldari to help our race reclaim what we had lost. We were all just playing our part to help the greater good of the State.
I hope that might serve as insight into my reasons for defending individuality over collectivism today. |
Galm Fae
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Posted - 2013.08.19 18:43:00 -
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Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:
Well ... the Dragonaurs are surely focused on the common good of the Caldari, it is true. Broadly, however, much harm is done by true believers of all ideologies. It is difficult to say whether "collectivism" is really more troublesome in this way than individualism.
In the end, it does not seem to be so much a question of which is better as a question of what each approach is good for. I am pro-community, largely because that approach lends itself to relative peace and order, and allows the patterns the community enshrines to persist, relatively unchanged, for a long, long time.
I wish to see my faith and culture survive. Thus, favoring the community over the individual is a matter of utility for me, not of high ideal.
I wished to see my faith and culture flourish, thus I made the choice of joining the Dragonaurs in the first place. Maybe this isn't for me to say, but I don't think I am all that different from you. I just took the extra step of applying myself fully to the betterment of the State, an act that I now see was a mistake. It did however, help me finally see through cencepts like honor and utilitarianism.
As for you Draco, false memories and wipes aren't uncommon in the State, I am sure the Federation can't be much different. It is particularly rampant in cases were the mentally unstable are "corrected" and made to fold back into society. So if you are going to question if your memories are real, then you simply can't deny the possibility that you are absolutely insane. |
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