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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
336
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Posted - 2013.08.16 21:35:00 -
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After several months when our Intergalactic Summit was set up and the station opened for public use, I have been quite active here commenting on issues, representing the Intaki people and correcting some misinformation on some subjects. There have been some ups, and some downs, and overall I am cautiously hopeful that our discussions will eventually evolve from the finger pointing stage. During these months, I have also noticed an alarming trend appearing, fanaticism.
I'm talking about the type where the people blindly follow their leader, without questioning their motives or methods. Some of you may have seen this with the Gallente mostly, but this is not only restricted to them. Caldari, Minmatar, Gallente and Amarr alike have shown signs of fanaticism, some have even gone as far as wowed their entire lives to destroying their mortal enemies, no matter how impossible that goal might be. The Templars and Paladins continue with their quest of expanding their faith to all corners of the cluster, claiming that their religion is the only true one. The Gallente have also shown this, but not in the form of a religion, but in the form of their ideals. Many of the Gallenteans here have exclaimed their ideals of freedom and democracy, some even demanded that other nations convert to the same ideals as them, failing to recognize that homogenizing was the reason the entire dispute with the Caldari began. And while the Caldari and Minmatar haven't shown much fanaticism as the Gallente or Amarr, I have also seen that they wish every single Gallentean/Amarrian to be wiped off the face of the galaxy.
Why is this a problem? Because when you do not question what you are doing, don't think why you are doing what you are doing, think why the enemy you are fighting is actually your enemy, that is when problems arise and dictatorships are born. This also prevents us from cooperating at any kind of meaningful level when we are bound by prejudices set centuries ago by people whose words should have no weigh anymore, as we can see with the at best reserved relationship with the Caldari and Gallente.
It is not impossible to fix this, when the disaster that was the battle of Caldari Prime happened, in the aftermath the Caldari and Gallente could negotiate a truce and start fixing the damage done to the planet. We may not ever agree with our political, sociological or religious ideals, but in the very least we can set our differences aside to work towards a mutually beneficial goal. And while you could argue all year long about if the situation the capsuleers are in now is good or bad, I aspire us to be somewhat like them, independent of the empires, working for our own goals and ideals and not ones another person told us to follow, kind of like every one of us was a nation state of its own.
Do you agree with me? I'm bound to have someone troll me at least once or call me names, but I hope we could keep this discussion mostly civil. |
Galm Fae
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
61
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Posted - 2013.08.16 21:54:00 -
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I like to think several of my reasons for my beliefs are justified, but I suppose I see your point. |
Aria Gomes
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
8
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Posted - 2013.08.16 22:02:00 -
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I can say that I agree with you Denak. I think it's easy to fall into what our leaders or in Minmatar case; tribe members say. I cab say that I don't hate Caldari. They are actually alright, I even know an Amarrian that is my good friend and I regularly squad with him. But some Amarrian try to make me feel inferior to them. I've been called filth or assumed that I'm a savage who's lusting for blood like Earth's myths of werewolves or vampires. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1308
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Posted - 2013.08.16 23:01:00 -
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(( My character is an FW toon, I'm just interested in all the factions and stuff.... and since partly Kador was inspired by the Space Marine novels I have been reading recently I like to who subservient knightly character archetype. Also I really hope I haven't gone all true adamance preachy, he's an easier character to channel that Kador is.)) |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1141
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Posted - 2013.08.16 23:12:00 -
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My Character is an Former Black Eagle agent seeking to shed light and throw away the corruption within the Federation's governance.
It was pretty cool to think and write about it. I spent a hell of a lot of time looking into EVE lore to create this character.
I can't wait until we can have character bios so I can explain the full background of my character (which I already wrote out because I have no life whatsoever...) |
Disciple Of Kesha
Dirt 'n' Glitter Imperial Outlaws.
0
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Posted - 2013.08.16 23:23:00 -
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There is no common ground, there will be combat until there is no one left to resist |
Aria Gomes
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
8
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Posted - 2013.08.16 23:38:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:My Character is an Former Black Eagle agent seeking to shed light and throw away the corruption within the Federation's governance.
It was pretty cool to think and write about it. I spent a hell of a lot of time looking into EVE lore to create this character.
I can't wait until we can have character bios so I can explain the full background of my character (which I already wrote out because I have no life whatsoever...)
I got bits and pieces of my character's story in my head. I might have to write it all out on Word or something. I like to dream out scenarios that my character might go through whether it's past, present and future. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1311
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Posted - 2013.08.16 23:40:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:My Character is an Former Black Eagle agent seeking to shed light and throw away the corruption within the Federation's governance.
It was pretty cool to think and write about it. I spent a hell of a lot of time looking into EVE lore to create this character.
I can't wait until we can have character bios so I can explain the full background of my character (which I already wrote out because I have no life whatsoever...) That is a nice character.
Mine is a former Sarum Imperial Guardsman, killed on Amamake, and made into a Templar. |
Shattered Mirage
D.A.R.K Academy D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
108
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Posted - 2013.08.17 02:06:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:My Character is an Former Black Eagle agent seeking to shed light and throw away the corruption within the Federation's governance.
It was pretty cool to think and write about it. I spent a hell of a lot of time looking into EVE lore to create this character.
I can't wait until we can have character bios so I can explain the full background of my character (which I already wrote out because I have no life whatsoever...) That is a nice character. Mine is a former Sarum Imperial Guardsman, killed on Amamake, and made into a Templar.
((Since we're already being somewhat OOC; do the Caldari have an elite unit, like the Galette Black Eagles? I tried looking it up but... couldn't find anything.)) |
Octavian Vetiver
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
166
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Posted - 2013.08.17 02:18:00 -
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Shattered Mirage wrote:True Adamance wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:My Character is an Former Black Eagle agent seeking to shed light and throw away the corruption within the Federation's governance.
It was pretty cool to think and write about it. I spent a hell of a lot of time looking into EVE lore to create this character.
I can't wait until we can have character bios so I can explain the full background of my character (which I already wrote out because I have no life whatsoever...) That is a nice character. Mine is a former Sarum Imperial Guardsman, killed on Amamake, and made into a Templar. ((Since we're already being somewhat OOC; do the Caldari have an elite unit, like the Galette Black Eagles? I tried looking it up but... couldn't find anything.))
(( Not really, the Caldari background has always been a fractured state since it's been a meritocracy and the only real government head has been the Executor Council with the exception of Tibus Heth. Now within the individual megacorps they would most likely have some sort of special ops, black ops or Special Circumstances style of military unit. But nothing has ever been written on them to the best of my knowledge.)) |
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Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
194
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Posted - 2013.08.17 02:37:00 -
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((Let's get back into character, folks.))
Mr. Kalamari, I do see, understand, and to a large degree agree with your concerns. I do suspect, however, that much of where all of this comes from is the backgrounds of the visitors here.
We are mostly soldiers. At most, we may have been officers; many were probably just talented rank and file.
Such people are typically subject to the sort of programming that makes a soldier eager to fire a weapon. It results in a certain amount of extremism and jingoism, but it also makes them more effective killers in service to their respective masters. As much as I consider it my responsibility to recognize the humanity of my enemy even as I kill him, I also recognize that this is not an easy thing for most to do.
They are soldiers, specialized in killing and conditioned to kill without hesitation. It may be too much to ask them to be diplomats, at least in the near term.
Of course, as they are now mercenaries with extraordinarily broad discretion in their doings, they can now broadly free themselves of that role and its mentality, if they wish to. Perhaps those of us with more ... unusual backgrounds may be able to help with that. |
Shattered Mirage
D.A.R.K Academy D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
108
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Posted - 2013.08.17 03:01:00 -
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Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:((Let's get back into character, folks.)) h? Mr. Kalamari, I do see, understand, and to a large degree agree with your concerns. I do suspect, however, that much of where all of this comes from is the backgrounds of the visitors here.
We are mostly soldiers. At most, we may have been officers; many were probably just talented rank and file.
Such people are typically subject to the sort of programming that makes a soldier eager to fire a weapon. It results in a certain amount of extremism and jingoism, but it also makes them more effective killers in service to their respective masters. As much as I consider it my responsibility to recognize the humanity of my enemy even as I kill him, I also recognize that this is not an easy thing for most to do.
They are soldiers, specialized in killing and conditioned to kill without hesitation. It may be too much to ask them to be diplomats, at least in the near term.
Of course, as they are now mercenaries with extraordinarily broad discretion in their doings, they can now broadly free themselves of that role and its mentality, if they wish to. Perhaps those of us with more ... unusual backgrounds may be able to help with that.
Please elaborate on what you consider... unusual backgrounds, would you?
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
337
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Posted - 2013.08.17 04:06:00 -
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Shattered Mirage wrote:Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:((Let's get back into character, folks.)) h? Mr. Kalamari, I do see, understand, and to a large degree agree with your concerns. I do suspect, however, that much of where all of this comes from is the backgrounds of the visitors here.
We are mostly soldiers. At most, we may have been officers; many were probably just talented rank and file.
Such people are typically subject to the sort of programming that makes a soldier eager to fire a weapon. It results in a certain amount of extremism and jingoism, but it also makes them more effective killers in service to their respective masters. As much as I consider it my responsibility to recognize the humanity of my enemy even as I kill him, I also recognize that this is not an easy thing for most to do.
They are soldiers, specialized in killing and conditioned to kill without hesitation. It may be too much to ask them to be diplomats, at least in the near term.
Of course, as they are now mercenaries with extraordinarily broad discretion in their doings, they can now broadly free themselves of that role and its mentality, if they wish to. Perhaps those of us with more ... unusual backgrounds may be able to help with that. Please elaborate on what you consider... unusual backgrounds, would you? ((Guys, I really don't like it if you make a reply to my thread just to make an OOC comment. It's really annoying to see that half of the 11 notifications I got were just OOC talk. If you want to talk about your characters OOC, go to the DUST OOC thread in the fiction section, don't do it in my thread please.))
From what I have witnessed at least some, or a fair part of us seem to have some kind of traumatic backgrounds before becoming soldiers, which leads to bitterness and hatred to everyone remotely related to the apparent cause of their trauma, I think Yun might be talking about that.
But yes, I agree that we naturally have a tendency towards not questioning orders due to our soldier training, and I am not asking, nor hoping for an instant change. I do hope that I could spark an idea on soldiers, and gradually change the way we think. That way we could start thinking critically of our orders and ideals, and hopefully gain the independent thinking I desire. |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
194
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Posted - 2013.08.17 04:08:00 -
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Shattered Mirage wrote:Please elaborate on what you consider... unusual backgrounds, would you? Soldier, a few of us may not have come to this career path out of a military background. These individuals were either influential enough, through wealth or political or personal connections, to find a way into the program around the margins or were selected for unusual reasons. You may have noticed that our nature makes it quite easy to alter or conceal a past.
For example: the Dead Six Initiative is named for a group of seven traitors to the State who were given an opportunity to redeem themselves. I forget the exact circumstances of the test, but six wound up dead; the seventh was inducted into the State's clone soldier program with no memory of her past and went on to found our corporation. Thus, a traitor and criminal was reborn as an intensely State-loyal clone mercenary.
Certain aspects of many of our colleagues (the frequency of amnesia, for one) hint at similar stories. Some of us may have been spies, gangsters, pirates, well-connected dissidents, or even graduate students writing New Eden's most painfully-researched doctoral thesis.
In this case, it mostly matters because those of us who fit into this category likely have not had the same sort of foundational training, hence indoctrination, or at least have not had it recently. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1269
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Posted - 2013.08.17 04:27:00 -
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((I don't really have anything in character to say, but I really hope you don't think True Adamance and I are Amarr fanatics. That is not either of our characters. All we've done is state our beliefs and correct those who bear false claims against our Empire.)) |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
337
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Posted - 2013.08.17 04:31:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:((I don't really have anything in character to say, but I really hope you don't think True Adamance and I are Amarr fanatics. That is not either of our characters. All we've done is state our beliefs and correct those who bear false claims against our Empire.)) ((I don't think you're fanatics, but my point still stands. If you have nothing worthy of adding, don't reply. If you want to talk with me, use PMs or the DUST OOC thread. I find it annoying when people just comment OOCly on my threads.)) I really wish they could fix these threads of all the static and other disturbances, it's starting to get annoying when it disrupts the discussion. |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
194
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Posted - 2013.08.17 04:35:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:((I don't really have anything in character to say, but I really hope you don't think True Adamance and I are Amarr fanatics. That is not either of our characters. All we've done is state our beliefs and correct those who bear false claims against our Empire.)) ((I don't think you're fanatics, but my point still stands. If you have nothing worthy of adding, don't reply. If you want to talk with me, use PMs or the DUST OOC thread. I find it annoying when people just comment OOCly on my threads.)) I really wish they could fix these threads of all the static and other disturbances, it's starting to get annoying when it disrupts the discussion. ((OOC is a bad habit. Commenting on it, OOC or IC, is also a bad habit. <-- yes, ironic. We may need the moderators to actually start laying down the law; after all, comments like this one I'm writing are against the rules, folks.)) |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1269
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Posted - 2013.08.17 04:36:00 -
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Apologies Sir Kalamari, my last comment appeared to have trouble achieving a connection and the signal may have come in a bit scattered at first. |
21yrOld Knight
187.
62
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Posted - 2013.08.17 06:13:00 -
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It sounds like you want a total peace throughout the four major empires Mr. Kalamari. Why would a merc want peace it is our job to conduct war. What you desire seems rather stupid in my opinion wanting to loose your job and all. Well maybe not , there are many private contractors in new Eden that would hire a merc to fight against their hostile enemies.
( wow a gallente who isn't crazy nice topic +1 ) |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
340
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Posted - 2013.08.17 06:53:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:It sounds like you want a total peace throughout the four major empires Mr. Kalamari. Why would a merc want peace it is our job to conduct war. What you desire seems rather stupid in my opinion wanting to loose your job and all. Well maybe not , there are many private contractors in new Eden that would hire a merc to fight against their hostile enemies.
( wow a gallente who isn't crazy nice topic +1 ) I'm not desiring peace, I know that is an impossible goal to achieve. What I am trying to achieve here is independence from the empires of New Eden, to not blindly follow their ideals and their orders just because we were told so. Right now we are extremely dependent on them, they make our weapons, our dropsuits, modules and everything else you use in combat, and because we all were trained in the clone soldier program more or less, we have tendencies to show alarming amounts of fanaticism to our own nations. I believe that when capsuleers or other non-empire afflicted groups starts building our gear, funding our wars and hiring our services, have we taken a step to the right direction. That may be a long time before it actually happens, but when we stop unquestionably following orders and start thinking critically of what we do, have we made progress.
And I am Intaki, not Gallente. |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1321
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Posted - 2013.08.17 07:14:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:It sounds like you want a total peace throughout the four major empires Mr. Kalamari. Why would a merc want peace it is our job to conduct war. What you desire seems rather stupid in my opinion wanting to loose your job and all. Well maybe not , there are many private contractors in new Eden that would hire a merc to fight against their hostile enemies.
( wow a gallente who isn't crazy nice topic +1 ) I'm not desiring peace, I know that is an impossible goal to achieve. What I am trying to achieve here is independence from the empires of New Eden, to not blindly follow their ideals and their orders just because we were told so. Right now we are extremely dependent on them, they make our weapons, our dropsuits, modules and everything else you use in combat, and because we all were trained in the clone soldier program more or less, we have tendencies to show alarming amounts of fanaticism to our own nations. I believe that when capsuleers or other non-empire afflicted groups starts building our gear, funding our wars and hiring our services, have we taken a step to the right direction. That may be a long time before it actually happens, but when we stop unquestionably following orders and start thinking critically of what we do, have we made progress. And I am Intaki, not Gallente. I am a loyalist. This defines me as a person. I have nothing to fight for without the Empire. I have no desire to own my own space, nor to make ISK, nor to fight as a mercenary.
I want to help my people, so I fight their wars so they do not have to. |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
340
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Posted - 2013.08.17 08:24:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: I am a loyalist. This defines me as a person. I have nothing to fight for without the Empire. I have no desire to own my own space, nor to make ISK, nor to fight as a mercenary.
I want to help my people, so I fight their wars so they do not have to.
I understand, and I accept your point, the loyalty to the empires in itself isn't the problem, it is when it becomes unquestioning and blind. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1323
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Posted - 2013.08.17 11:28:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:True Adamance wrote: I am a loyalist. This defines me as a person. I have nothing to fight for without the Empire. I have no desire to own my own space, nor to make ISK, nor to fight as a mercenary.
I want to help my people, so I fight their wars so they do not have to.
I understand, and I accept your point, the loyalty to the empires in itself isn't the problem, it is when it becomes unquestioning and blind. Why would I question though. I whole heartedly believe that the Empire is doing the right thing. |
Sergamon Draco
Rautaleijona Top Men.
93
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Posted - 2013.08.17 13:13:00 -
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I remember what happened long time ago,like it had happen yesterday.My family lived in little town with gallente,minmatar,caldari families,heck my best childhood friend was caldari girl,aristas nehem was her name.All of us lived in peace with eachothers,untill that dark day came.Caldaris and ammarians arrived and horrors started,bloodshead and massacre is too gently words to desscribe what happened,also our former caldari neighbours participated and helped those caldari and ammarian death squads to round up and kill every gallente and minmatar man,woman,and childs.Only who survived was handfull of people me included only to see our fathers,mothers,sisters and brothers lying lifeless in massgraves.Those horrible days started my discust and hate to caldari and ammarian empires and last i have to say,im product of those events and thats why every change i get i strike and try to find those who is responsible and make them pay |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1324
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Posted - 2013.08.17 13:47:00 -
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Sergamon Draco wrote:I remember what happened long time ago,like it had happen yesterday.My family lived in little town with gallente,minmatar,caldari families,heck my best childhood friend was caldari girl,aristas nehem was her name.All of us lived in peace with eachothers,untill that dark day came.Caldaris and ammarians arrived and horrors started,bloodshead and massacre is too gently words to desscribe what happened,also our former caldari neighbours participated and helped those caldari and ammarian death squads to round up and kill every gallente and minmatar man,woman,and childs.Only who survived was handfull of people me included only to see our fathers,mothers,sisters and brothers lying lifeless in massgraves.Those horrible days started my discust and hate to caldari and ammarian empires and last i have to say,im product of those events and thats why every change i get i strike and try to find those who is responsible and make them pay I see so your purpose is to what? Get revenge on those you perceive to be aligned with the murderers of your friends and family?
Are you ruled by anger Mr Draco? My father, a merchant for the empire was shot and killed during an Anti-Amarrian rally by former Brutor Tribe slaves, he has never so much as seen a Holder, nor dealt with the slaves they kept. Nor was he aggressive, merely wished to pass by unmolested by the gathering crowd of irate Matari.
Do I blame them for his death? No.
I do not hate them, or curse them, or wish ill fate upon them. I pity their ignorance, I wish to help them, and show them their folly.
You blame people for being people. Those who feared for their lives, these Caldari neighbours you say turned upon you. How else would you have them act when their lives and families are in jeopardy. I doubt if situation was reversed the Matari would have held back, nor the Gallente.
In anycase how do you know these people were representatives of the empires, who harboured ill will against you, could it not have been radical racially motivated hate crimes by renegades, Templis Dragonaurs, Blood Raiders, or any number of pirate factions. Could this not have been a business related incident, some clandestine operation to see your settlement moved or obliterated in the name of billions of ISK?
Do not blame a people for the actions of a few. |
Octavian Vetiver
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
166
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Posted - 2013.08.17 14:18:00 -
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I would also gather that planet was most likely in a lowsec system. Those planets are dangerous since none of the governments have the means to patrol there much or even to really enforce the laws they set forth. I would say that most likely what happened was blood raiders attacked. They do have Caldari in their ranks that practice the heretic sani sabik religion. It would not have been guristas as while they are pirates they do not accomplish base pointless acts of murder. The blood raiders have no such morals or qualms and randomly kill as they wish. |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
197
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Posted - 2013.08.17 15:16:00 -
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There is a further option as to what happened to Mr. Draco, but first:
Mr. Draco, this war only went hot a scant few years ago. The Amarr and Caldari ground troops, while allied, have had their own theaters of war, and therefore do not often fight side by side, possibly to the point of "never." Even if you had been as young as you seem to imply at the time the war broke out, it's still unlikely that those soldiers belonged to the Empire and State militaries.
Now, one thing that is possible is that your community got hit by illegal slavers. Amarrian criminals illegally collecting slaves have been known to employ Caldari mercenaries as muscle, to the shame of both empires. Considering that this sort of activity is organized crime by definition, it's not too difficult to imagine circumstances that might have led to a massacre. |
Sergamon Draco
Rautaleijona Top Men.
93
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Posted - 2013.08.17 18:36:00 -
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Mr adamance no im not ruled anger,im seeking justice for those 863 people who died in those days.And justice they and those who are responsible of those 863 deaths,those people who is quilty of those deaths,they will see that they cannot hide or escape from justice or punishment what they deserves.You say those caldari civilians had to help,but i did see how they enjoyed what they did,they enjoyed when they molested girls and womans,they enjoyed when caldari reqular killed baby with knive and they enjoy when.....But no more in that what they did.They were no slavers or blood raides, they was unit from Caldari Marine Expeditionary Forces with mission to kill and wipe out gallente and minmatar civilians,reason why i know is that insignia of Caldari Marine Expeditionary Forces has etch in my mind and i have crossed path with c.m.e.f with same emblems. |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
341
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Posted - 2013.08.17 18:38:00 -
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Honestly, I have a hard time taking anything Sergamon claims seriously, since he seems to have conflicting ideals depending on the argument, makes baseless threats towards innocent people and can barely write coherent sentences. |
21yrOld Knight
187.
62
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Posted - 2013.08.17 18:58:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:It sounds like you want a total peace throughout the four major empires Mr. Kalamari. Why would a merc want peace it is our job to conduct war. What you desire seems rather stupid in my opinion wanting to loose your job and all. Well maybe not , there are many private contractors in new Eden that would hire a merc to fight against their hostile enemies.
( wow a gallente who isn't crazy nice topic +1 ) I'm not desiring peace, I know that is an impossible goal to achieve. What I am trying to achieve here is independence from the empires of New Eden, to not blindly follow their ideals and their orders just because we were told so. Right now we are extremely dependent on them, they make our weapons, our dropsuits, modules and everything else you use in combat, and because we all were trained in the clone soldier program more or less, we have tendencies to show alarming amounts of fanaticism to our own nations. I believe that when capsuleers or other non-empire afflicted groups starts building our gear, funding our wars and hiring our services, have we taken a step to the right direction. That may be a long time before it actually happens, but when we stop unquestionably following orders and start thinking critically of what we do, have we made progress. And I am Intaki, not Gallente.
When you put it that way it makes sense. I apologize if I offended you.
( dang i didn't notice your corp tang still a nice topic though ) |
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