Obviously the freindly blue you watched go down was a pretty bad tanker. All he had to do was flip on a few modules that give tanks an extra 15k health.

If only all vehicles had face-value HP like our suits do...

180k.
And I am likely to lose 5 of those in a match against other proto players.

To fit that proto FG he needed a proto suit.
He also needed proto damage mods to do that kind of damage.
He also needed to invest heavily into core skills so he would have enough CPU/PG and other benefits.
And lastly he needed to bring his tank up (Shield/armor).

It's not cheaper SP wise to be infantry, stop fooling yourself.

CCP needs to implement a non vehicle mode and a vehicle only mode, in the vehicle only mode players would receive much more ISk since they are risking more. The better tankers would be rewarded for not dying, and would make profit if they work with their other friendly Armour.

I'm just tired of not being able to play Medic, because my every other teammate in pubs is too stupid to put a good amount of SP into AV. As I said before, Milits is NOT enough for the better tankers out there. I'd like to play as a Healer Type Logistics, I really would, but you Vehicle users prevent this. And you wonder why people pull out High level AV... Your damn fault.

Try finding a half good HAV without some sort of PG mod. Maybe railguns...

I'm a forge gunner and I would support making tanks cheaper. If CCP does buff tanks, they should make it so hitting the tanks weak spot kills the tank in the same amount of shots it takes now.

Like it or not, infantry need a viable option to take down tanks. With out this option, you tank guys go over board and abuse your power.

On a side note, the main reason I speced into Forge Guns is because I was tired of getting run over by LAVs. HAV players just got caught in the crossfire.

How about squading up with infantry players and working together? I play with the tankers in my corp all the time and their tanks last multiple matches for a few reasons. We communicate and call out AV players and other tanks so that our tanker doesn't fall into a trap. When he see a forge gunner or swarms he calls him out and us on the ground take care of it. Also they watch the kill feed and if they see proto AV they are smart enough to recall it.

Buffing tanks is a bad idea, I remember when tanks could 100+ kills a match on a regular basis. CCP just needs to bring back the marauder tanks. Also tanks should be expensive they should be a luxury afforded by corps for PC matches. That way the corps who have the cash to spend on them will do better and it would make the people who are skilled into tanks more valuable.

How about squading up with infantry players and working together? I play with the tankers in my corp all the time and their tanks last multiple matches for a few reasons. We communicate and call out AV players and other tanks so that our tanker doesn't fall into a trap. When he see a forge gunner or swarms he calls him out and us on the ground take care of it. Also they watch the kill feed and if they see proto AV they are smart enough to recall it.

Buffing tanks is a bad idea, I remember when tanks could 100+ kills a match on a regular basis. CCP just needs to bring back the marauder tanks. Also tanks should be expensive they should be a luxury afforded by corps for PC matches. That way the corps who have the cash to spend on them will do better and it would make the people who are skilled into tanks more valuable.

how about realizing that corpmates aren't online 24/7 and infantry are too stupid to tell the difference between an MCC and an instillation.
we cant trust anyone inside our vehicles because they will 9/10 times get us killed because THEY DONT LISTEN.

tanks are already that expensive, why do you think we all want our tanks to be worth their cost or price reduced.

tanks need a buff, theyv been the pit of nerfing ever since the game was made.

Sounds like you're in the wrong corp.

Tanks don't need a buff, I have incountered tankers who actually know how to fit their tanks where it has taken a coordinated effort by 3 proto AV players to take them down. Stop fitting your tanks to be glass cannons.

I'm a forge gunner and I would support making tanks cheaper. If CCP does buff tanks, they should make it so hitting the tanks weak spot kills the tank in the same amount of shots it takes now.

Making tanks cheaper is a terrible idea, just imagine all the LAV's right now, and replace them with tanks. Infantry would be forced to run AV all the damn time, which is BS. I want to shoot people in this first-person-shooter, not be gimped against other infantry players and waste an entire match chasing vehicles around.

We need vehicle-free modes.

turrets need to be 1/5 price like they used to be. seriously my turret is more than the price of my tank, that's just stupid, even the cheapest turret is 40k isk, thats quite a lot for a ******** turret, the basic turret sucks...

and you wonder why we redline rail, that's your damn fault...

also +1 for the vehicle only mode.

and you wonder why we redline rail, that's your damn fault...

also +1 for the vehicle only mode.

we dont abuse the power, it should take 3-4 coordinated people to take down a damn good tank but as many of us know, it takes 6 seconds with a proto forge gun to take down even the best of fitted tanks and the best tanker, so in the care you infantry are really OP, and if your using swarms against a shield tank, your stupid...

Actually its because us infantry don't like getting slaughtered by tanks going 30-0 every match. Also I'm guessing you don't know how to properly fit a tank. I have seen tanks that survive the entire match because they are well fit and the driver puts himself in a position where he can escape if needed.

I can't stand it no more, i just saw a friendly with a gunnlogi with 5400 shield go down with 3 shots of a ishyukone Assault FG, thats just messed up, (i recalled my stank after i saw him go down). He didn't even have time to get away,) I still couldent belive my eyes, i was like WTF, the dude drove up right behind him and FG him to death. I dont even think he knew he was taking damage until it was too late. Buff the Shield tanks and the Armour tanks because Armour tanks go down to with swarms like MLT LAV's With an Orbital strike. Buff tanks or nerf Forge guns. Also orbital strikes are OP against Shield tanks, because Shield tanks are slow as heavys walking... In crease shield tank speed to 88 kph and increase their acceleration by a whole lot because WTF CCP, it takes 30 seconds to get to full speed.

Buff scouts.

The tanker was probs a new player and had a bad fit. Shields alone are not enough. You will need aswell a high resistance to keep up with proto AV.

I can't stand it no more, i just saw a friendly with a gunnlogi with 5400 shield go down with 3 shots of a ishyukone Assault FG, thats just messed up, (i recalled my stank after i saw him go down). He didn't even have time to get away,) I still couldent belive my eyes, i was like WTF, the dude drove up right behind him and FG him to death. I dont even think he knew he was taking damage until it was too late. Buff the Shield tanks and the Armour tanks because Armour tanks go down to with swarms like MLT LAV's With an Orbital strike. Buff tanks or nerf Forge guns. Also orbital strikes are OP against Shield tanks, because Shield tanks are slow as heavys walking... In crease shield tank speed to 88 kph and increase their acceleration by a whole lot because WTF CCP, it takes 30 seconds to get to full speed.

we dont abuse the power, it should take 3-4 coordinated people to take down a damn good tank but as many of us know, it takes 6 seconds with a proto forge gun to take down even the best of fitted tanks and the best tanker, so in the care you infantry are really OP, and if your using swarms against a shield tank, your stupid...

I can't stand it no more, i just saw a friendly with a gunnlogi with 5400 shield go down with 3 shots of a ishyukone Assault FG, thats just messed up, (i recalled my stank after i saw him go down). He didn't even have time to get away,) I still couldent belive my eyes, i was like WTF, the dude drove up right behind him and FG him to death. I dont even think he knew he was taking damage until it was too late. Buff the Shield tanks and the Armour tanks because Armour tanks go down to with swarms like MLT LAV's With an Orbital strike. Buff tanks or nerf Forge guns. Also orbital strikes are OP against Shield tanks, because Shield tanks are slow as heavys walking... In crease shield tank speed to 88 kph and increase their acceleration by a whole lot because WTF CCP, it takes 30 seconds to get to full speed.