*excited clapping*.... oh wait... I'm a caldari shield tanker... T-T

Too bad I put no points in armor plates because they sucked so hard.

It's literally impossible to plan a build.

This game falls so short of EVE in terms of customization and meaning it's completely laughable.

*excited clapping*.... oh wait... I'm a caldari shield tanker... T-T

Armour wasn't really that bad anyways.

I expect a respec anyways because of all the changes.

In case some may have missed it let me link It

To summarize the post strafe speeds will now be 90% of their running speed.

We'd like to introduce a penalty to shield tanking (most likely increasing the delay on shield recharge when you use shield extenders) but we wanted to buff armor first. We will be watching 1.4 closely and if necessary, add the shield delay in 1.5.
- Role skills still need to be updated to better take advantage of armor tanking.


Adjusted Armor Plate attributes - HP bonus of 85/110/135 (Basic/Enhanced/Complex) and speed penalties of 2%/3%/5% (with full skill bonuses this equates to 93.5/121/148.5)
* Adjusted Ferroscale Plate attributes - HP bonus of 35/50/75 (with full skill bonuses this equates to 38.5/55/82.5)
* Adjusted Reactive Plate attributes - HP bonus of 25/40/60 and speed penalties of 0%/1%/1% (with full skill bonuses this equates to 27.5/44/66)


So in turn this will be a great balance between shield and armour.

Armour players still move slower than shield tanked players but not mind bogglingly slow.
Shields will still have the advantage of having armour players take more damage from more guns.

The other two plates are an option now. Instead of being just there.

I've already seen a post about how this is a stealth nerf to laser weapons such as the scrambler rifle and the laser rifle. This just isn't the case.

Caldari will always have an easier time stacking extenders then they would plates. Most peoples fittings can't handle good shield mods and armour mods at the same time anyways. A good shield tanker would use regulators anyways. So in turn

Shield players will be good with shields.

Armour players are now comparable as well.

This is a stealth nerf to weapons like the mass driver though. More armour to chew through now. (Not that it will be any harder because they do so much to armour anyways.)

If all goes right so far from what i've seen announced for 1.4 I'm gonna love it, and it will revive this game for a lot of people.

Tankers you got 1.5.


On a side note, good job Wolfman, and everybody at CCP for that matter. we see your hard work, and this is a huge leap in the right direction. Keep it up.

To all the shield people complaining, you're still faster, any half decent armour build will have a 10% + movement penalty because of the amount of armour.

Your still more resistant to explosives.

It's now that it is balanced.

Too bad I put no points in armor plates because they sucked so hard.

It's literally impossible to plan a build.

This game falls so short of EVE in terms of customization and meaning it's completely laughable.

Armour wasn't really that bad anyways.

I expect a respec anyways because of all the changes.

You will always have the ability to accrue more SP. Make a decision then live with whatever consequences that result from it.

If only the game had any form of meaning or persistence that actually mattered to anyone what so ever, and I wasn't forced to use one or a few highly limited playstyles for months and months on end in order to play another.

Oh boy.

I believe that's how it works in EVE (correct me if I'm wrong, i don't play) so I think they built the game with that basis in mind.

Too bad I put no points in armor plates because they sucked so hard.

It's literally impossible to plan a build.

This game falls so short of EVE in terms of customization and meaning it's completely laughable.

Go play eve then.

Still nothing for dropship pilots.. **** you CCP.

Allowing players to tank and DPS is one slippery slope.

We will see

your still faster, and explosives don't insta kill you.

Still nothing for dropship pilots.. **** you CCP.

Too bad I put no points in armor plates because they sucked so hard.

It's literally impossible to plan a build.

This game falls so short of EVE in terms of customization and meaning it's completely laughable.

Too bad I put no points in armor plates because they sucked so hard.

I know you're not just another fotm freak but come on. You sound just like one. Lemme quote it again:


Now they don't suck as much and the qq begins. Surprise.

I actually still have no interest in armor plates, more or less just poking at the fact that our decisions have absolutely no meaning because they can only relate to how well our Crystal Ball functions.

Basically your choices don't matter because CCP has no idea what they're doing with their game, made obvious by how often balance swings in random ass directions for random amounts of time.

They're conducting battlefield triage on the shitstorm of issues in this game bro. Have patience ... the harsh reality is that more players are affected by core aiming issues and the armor vs. shield issues than there are dropship pilots and tankers in the game. You are a valued minority, but your needs must be prioritized with the realization that you are a minority. Sucks, and we all empathize, but thems' da breaks...

... cuz dollas yo.

I don't understand how a gallente skinny little suit is armor.
While a more boxy suit with plating on it is shield.

Armour wasn't really that bad anyways.

I expect a respec anyways because of all the changes.

Yeah, I'm just sad I won't stomp over Gallente suits like I used to... sigh.

If only the game had any form of meaning or persistence that actually mattered to anyone what so ever, and I wasn't forced to use one or a few highly limited playstyles for months and months on end in order to play another.

Oh boy.

I knew I skilled into armor for a reason.

Take that FotM Cal Logi shield tankers.

In 1.4 they turn the Aimbot back on,

Armor and shields wont matter anymore,

The good players will become gods and heros,

The SR will rise up and be a boss of the Arena.

The laser will have its glory back,

And the Tac AR will be the last word..

Just a few things I see in my crystal ball,.

must be a stupid ball

Scouts might actually be viable now.

It's not like they just introduced armor tanking... being able to build a suit with high DPS and also a decent tank with armor is exactly why I went Gallente Assault. As a player that is skilled in the art of FPS gunplay, I trust in my ability to efficiently kill opponents and stacking complex damage mods is playing to my strength. This also means that I'm limited to basic plates for the most part, so I'm not getting the best of both worlds. I'm getting the best of one and a bit of the other. My goal is to kill the enemy quickly and move on to the next, not to out HP the enemy while we both dance circles around each other.

Armor tanking has inherent weaknesses (movement penalties, complex repper module required for a single-digit regeneration rate), so the balance is in the ability to use damage mods.

Too bad I put no points in armor plates because they sucked so hard.

It's literally impossible to plan a build.

This game falls so short of EVE in terms of customization and meaning it's completely laughable.

You can thank forum QQ and backseat gamers for that. Oh wait, look at who I'm quoting...

yes plus rep tools that can rep faster then any shield ay? find a logi stick with him.

Correction, he is a driver. I never seen him outside his LAV.

I rarely use my BPO LAV except to get from A to B, aside from that time I was running everyone over because this game is sad

And Cosgar, I was unaware that forum goers programmed this game.

We must have introduced the flaylock, bad vehicle controls, terrible hit detection, crippling lag and disconnects, quicksand terrain, glitchy graphics, terrible shield vs armor balance, explosive dominance, total lack of meaningful connection with EVE, highly limited builds, a terrible SP system that promotes boredom over evolution, 5 maps, Caldari warbarges for all....