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falzar102 Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 9	Posted - 2013.08.14 15:03:00 - [31] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Duran Lex wrote: Kira Lannister wrote: ~1700 EHP Heavy +Core Repair Tool +Repair Hives It's going to get awkward. 1700 EHP isn't possible. You are right : awkward. Oh damn it's math time Heavy Base EHP (with skills):1012 Shields 506 Armor 506 Now we have a sentinel with 4 LOWS and 1 HIGH 4 COMPLEX PLATES*148.5=594 1 COMPLEX SHIELD EXTENDER 72.6 MODS=666.6+ EHP 1012= 1678 WHICH MEANS ~1700 Awkward how math is sometimes. OK, so you may get 1700 HP but whom would ever run it? You'll be so slow it would be unbearable. What would be the movement speed and sprint speed?
Viktor Skirov Heag Enterprises 32	Posted - 2013.08.14 15:22:00 - [32] - Quote Wow, now my Plasma Cannon has become even more useless. I still traumatized for that sentinel who tanked a direct hit, and still had enough HP to kill My whole team while I was reloading, the nightmares are terrible! Now I have heavyboomnodeadphobia D: . . . Did I sayd useless? I meant challenging, and now with the modifications, we all armor tankers will raise from the UP.
falzar102 Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 9	Posted - 2013.08.14 15:24:00 - [33] - Quote falzar102 wrote: Kira Lannister wrote: Duran Lex wrote: Kira Lannister wrote: ~1700 EHP Heavy +Core Repair Tool +Repair Hives It's going to get awkward. 1700 EHP isn't possible. You are right : awkward. Oh damn it's math time Heavy Base EHP (with skills):1012 Shields 506 Armor 506 Now we have a sentinel with 4 LOWS and 1 HIGH 4 COMPLEX PLATES*148.5=594 1 COMPLEX SHIELD EXTENDER 72.6 MODS=666.6+ EHP 1012= 1678 WHICH MEANS ~1700 Awkward how math is sometimes. OK, so you may get 1700 HP but whom would ever run it? You'll be so slow it would be unbearable. What would be the movement speed and sprint speed? 40% reduction. I got movement 2.16 movement and 3.06 sprint. Is that right? BTW. New stats are being introduced in 1.4. A complex will have a penalty of5%, not 10%
Duran Lex Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 131	Posted - 2013.08.14 15:27:00 - [34] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Duran Lex wrote: Kira Lannister wrote: ~1700 EHP Heavy +Core Repair Tool +Repair Hives It's going to get awkward. 1700 EHP isn't possible. You are right : awkward. Oh damn it's math time Heavy Base EHP (with skills):1012 Shields 506 Armor 506 Now we have a sentinel with 4 LOWS and 1 HIGH 4 COMPLEX PLATES*148.5=594 1 COMPLEX SHIELD EXTENDER 72.6 MODS=666.6+ EHP 1012= 1678 WHICH MEANS ~1700 Awkward how math is sometimes. I did not notice the rough approximation symbol, which prevents your statement from being false. So i apologize on that note. Equipping all those mods will give you 11 PG leftover for a weapon, sidearm, and grenade. That's not a lot of breathing room, even with Fitting Optimization skills. Adding on the 20% movement speed reduction, and you are a slow moving wall that dishes out marginal damage. You might want to reconsider this fitting.
Interplanetary Insanitarium Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 117	Posted - 2013.08.14 15:32:00 - [35] - Quote Lol, I'd definitely run that set up. Being as slow as molasses in January means I'd just camp even harder. And just use the SMG, it's a tiny version of the HMG... Duhhhh.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 2972	Posted - 2013.08.14 15:35:00 - [36] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Not when that MD gets nerfed. THEN WHO SHALL STOP US HOLY AMARRIANS!?! They aren't getting nerfed. The fad is just about over, just like last time the community bitched for a MD nerf.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1136	Posted - 2013.08.14 15:40:00 - [37] - Quote Viktor Skirov wrote: Wow, now my Plasma Cannon has become even more useless. I still traumatized for that sentinel who tanked a direct hit, and still had enough HP to kill My whole team while I was reloading, the nightmares are terrible! Now I have heavyboomnodeadphobia D: . . . Did I sayd useless? I meant challenging, and now with the modifications, we all armor tankers will raise from the UP. new heavies will be able to tank forges and rail turrets... nice can we get the SL to lock on to them now?
The Robot Devil Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 849	Posted - 2013.08.14 15:43:00 - [38] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Duran Lex wrote: Kira Lannister wrote: ~1700 EHP Heavy +Core Repair Tool +Repair Hives It's going to get awkward. 1700 EHP isn't possible. You are right : awkward. Oh damn it's math time Heavy Base EHP (with skills):1012 Shields 506 Armor 506 Now we have a sentinel with 4 LOWS and 1 HIGH 4 COMPLEX PLATES*148.5=594 1 COMPLEX SHIELD EXTENDER 72.6 MODS=666.6+ EHP 1012= 1678 WHICH MEANS ~1700 Awkward how math is sometimes. It's true! Heavies rejoice!
Viktor Skirov Heag Enterprises 32	Posted - 2013.08.14 18:25:00 - [39] - Quote ladwar wrote: Viktor Skirov wrote: Wow, now my Plasma Cannon has become even more useless. I still traumatized for that sentinel who tanked a direct hit, and still had enough HP to kill My whole team while I was reloading, the nightmares are terrible! Now I have heavyboomnodeadphobia D: . . . Did I sayd useless? I meant challenging, and now with the modifications, we all armor tankers will raise from the UP. new heavies will be able to tank forges and rail turrets... nice can we get the SL to lock on to them now? Sadly, i do not believe it, but, just give it a look on a positive perspective, (if you armor tank, of course), While their become even more heavier and harder to kill, so do we, don't you think?.
Poonmunch DUST University Ivy League 191	Posted - 2013.08.14 18:41:00 - [40] - Quote Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote: Kira Lannister wrote: In the numbers we can find God my holy brother. The new complex armor plates are 148.5 EHP Our Holy Sentinel Warrior has four low slots and one high slot. That gives us 666.6 more hp. The mark of the beast of god! Well, 2/3 (of 1 point) more than the mark of the beast. So we're just a little better. Ahh, 666 (the Number of the Beast). But 2/3 of 1 point should be rounded up. Therefore 666.6 should be rounded to 667 (the Neighbor of the Beast). Munch

Cosgar ParagonX 4196	Posted - 2013.08.14 19:45:00 - [41] - Quote LoveNewlooy wrote: Kira Lannister wrote: ~1700 EHP Heavy +Core Repair Tool +Repair Hives It's going to get awkward. if u saying wait till MD get nerf what about wait till gal heavy? all amarrians going **** their pants? long live gal!! The MD will keep heavies from getting nerfed... again. Better start defending it.
Duran Lex Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 136	Posted - 2013.08.15 03:19:00 - [42] - Quote Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote: Lol, I'd definitely run that set up. Being as slow as molasses in January means I'd just camp even harder. And just use the SMG, it's a tiny version of the HMG... Duhhhh. Hmm...there is logic in that crazy statement.
XxWarlordxX97 187. 4448	Posted - 2013.08.15 03:20:00 - [43] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Guinevere Bravo wrote: Vyzion Eyri wrote: ...Until you realise the Core Focused Repair Tool has a punishing fitting cost, which limits the logibro's ability to tank him/herself (especially if we're throwing in the triage hives too). Then add the fact that flux grenades are going to be wiping out those hives as well as the logibro's shields. Then add the fact that core locus nades and MDs are going to eradicate the logibro first, leaving the heavy a fat chicken ready to be consumed. The thread about changes to armour plates isn't a clarion call to all armour tankers to leave the MCC and return to battle. It's an early warning to shield/hybrid tankers to prepare their flux + MD combos. Think hes talking about the comando suit bro. FYI. Ps who sh!t on your barby this morning? My minmitar slaves will die by the hundreds to preserve my golden armor. Is that so
Duran Lex Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 136	Posted - 2013.08.15 03:21:00 - [44] - Quote Cosgar wrote: LoveNewlooy wrote: Kira Lannister wrote: ~1700 EHP Heavy +Core Repair Tool +Repair Hives It's going to get awkward. if u saying wait till MD get nerf what about wait till gal heavy? all amarrians going **** their pants? long live gal!! The MD will keep heavies from getting nerfed... again. Better start defending it. Strangely enough I've only been killed by MD's when I'm drunk and cant figure out where the hell they are shooting at me from. Otherwise i just get out of the way or behind cover. Never had a problem with the MD, might even check it out.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1240	Posted - 2013.08.15 03:25:00 - [45] - Quote Love how no one considers CPU or PG when making their god fits.
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 362	Posted - 2013.08.15 03:33:00 - [46] - Quote Vyzion Eyri wrote: ...Until you realise the Core Focused Repair Tool has a punishing fitting cost, which limits the logibro's ability to tank him/herself (especially if we're throwing in the triage hives too). Then add the fact that flux grenades are going to be wiping out those hives as well as the logibro's shields. Then add the fact that core locus nades and MDs are going to eradicate the logibro first, leaving the heavy a fat chicken ready to be consumed. The thread about changes to armour plates isn't a clarion call to all armour tankers to leave the MCC and return to battle. It's an early warning to shield/hybrid tankers to prepare their flux + MD combos. There's a difference between the Core and the Core Focused. I use the Core Focused on my vehicle loadout, and the regular Core on a regular Logi loadout.
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 691	Posted - 2013.08.15 03:51:00 - [47] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: ~1700 EHP Heavy +Core Repair Tool +Repair Hives It's going to get awkward. Mmm hmmm
Smoky Fingers Red Star. EoN. 125	Posted - 2013.08.15 03:57:00 - [48] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: ~1700 EHP Heavy +Core Repair Tool +Repair Hives It's going to get awkward. OOhh sweeet ..finally......... a boss fight
Eris Ernaga Super Nerds 423	Posted - 2013.08.15 05:15:00 - [49] - Quote Vyzion Eyri wrote: ...Until you realise the Core Focused Repair Tool has a punishing fitting cost, which limits the logibro's ability to tank him/herself (especially if we're throwing in the triage hives too). Then add the fact that flux grenades are going to be wiping out those hives as well as the logibro's shields. Then add the fact that core locus nades and MDs are going to eradicate the logibro first, leaving the heavy a fat chicken ready to be consumed. The thread about changes to armour plates isn't a clarion call to all armour tankers to leave the MCC and return to battle. It's an early warning to shield/hybrid tankers to prepare their flux + MD combos. i have a core repair tool
Cosgar ParagonX 4229	Posted - 2013.08.15 05:17:00 - [50] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Love how no one considers CPU or PG when making their god fits. Heavies are easier to fit than Courtney Love.

Cryius Li-Moody The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 22	Posted - 2013.08.15 05:21:00 - [51] - Quote XxWarlordxX97 wrote: Kira Lannister wrote: Guinevere Bravo wrote: Vyzion Eyri wrote: ...Until you realise the Core Focused Repair Tool has a punishing fitting cost, which limits the logibro's ability to tank him/herself (especially if we're throwing in the triage hives too). Then add the fact that flux grenades are going to be wiping out those hives as well as the logibro's shields. Then add the fact that core locus nades and MDs are going to eradicate the logibro first, leaving the heavy a fat chicken ready to be consumed. The thread about changes to armour plates isn't a clarion call to all armour tankers to leave the MCC and return to battle. It's an early warning to shield/hybrid tankers to prepare their flux + MD combos. Think hes talking about the comando suit bro. FYI. Ps who sh!t on your barby this morning? My minmitar slaves will die by the hundreds to preserve my golden armor. Is that so pipe down slave.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 387	Posted - 2013.08.15 05:27:00 - [52] - Quote Jeez enough with MD tears. You guys make yourself look weak. The thread starts with 1700 hp heavy and the first few replies turn into a river of MD tears. Please try and use math and common sense at least for sh!ts and giggles now and then. Third grade math problem for you: how many DIRECT MD hits does it take to take out 1700 HP and how long will this take the MD user with the current MD ROF? But then again math is UP. Why use math when you can use a river of tears to win.
Crimson Judgment ROGUE SPADES EoN. 86	Posted - 2013.08.15 05:27:00 - [53] - Quote Cryius Li-Moody wrote: XxWarlordxX97 wrote: Kira Lannister wrote: Guinevere Bravo wrote: Vyzion Eyri wrote: ...Until you realise the Core Focused Repair Tool has a punishing fitting cost, which limits the logibro's ability to tank him/herself (especially if we're throwing in the triage hives too). Then add the fact that flux grenades are going to be wiping out those hives as well as the logibro's shields. Then add the fact that core locus nades and MDs are going to eradicate the logibro first, leaving the heavy a fat chicken ready to be consumed. The thread about changes to armour plates isn't a clarion call to all armour tankers to leave the MCC and return to battle. It's an early warning to shield/hybrid tankers to prepare their flux + MD combos. Think hes talking about the comando suit bro. FYI. Ps who sh!t on your barby this morning? My minmitar slaves will die by the hundreds to preserve my golden armor. Is that so pipe down slave. runs over amarrian douch with the mighty charybdis. continues to T-bag the same douch whilst singing dip dip potato chip dip dip potato chip.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 387	Posted - 2013.08.15 05:29:00 - [54] - Quote Duran Lex wrote: Cosgar wrote: LoveNewlooy wrote: Kira Lannister wrote: ~1700 EHP Heavy +Core Repair Tool +Repair Hives It's going to get awkward. if u saying wait till MD get nerf what about wait till gal heavy? all amarrians going **** their pants? long live gal!! The MD will keep heavies from getting nerfed... again. Better start defending it. Strangely enough I've only been killed by MD's when I'm drunk and cant figure out where the hell they are shooting at me from. Otherwise i just get out of the way or behind cover. Never had a problem with the MD, might even check it out. Please, don't try to buid a dam across the river of tears - it's unnatural
Shadow of War88 0uter.Heaven EoN. 28	Posted - 2013.08.15 05:31:00 - [55] - Quote amarr r pathetic....cant even manufacture their own tanks
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1275	Posted - 2013.08.15 05:34:00 - [56] - Quote Shadow of War88 wrote: amarr r pathetic....cant even manufacture their own tanks St Wolfman of Devdom has not decreed it time to unleash our armoured might across this gakaxy, until he states otherwise we shall continue to Reclaim the Stars. ((You also know amarr and caldari are allies right....?))
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1476	Posted - 2013.08.15 05:37:00 - [57] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Not when that MD gets nerfed. THEN WHO SHALL STOP US HOLY AMARRIANS!?! Lasers, ironically
Viktor Zokas 187. 218	Posted - 2013.08.15 06:44:00 - [58] - Quote A wild LAV appears. LAV uses roadkill. It's super effective! Kira Lannister faints.
OZAROW A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 363	Posted - 2013.08.15 07:50:00 - [59] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Not when that MD gets nerfed. THEN WHO SHALL STOP US HOLY AMARRIANS!?! My scout , a r/e an a pair of knives,........ Bet ya won't see that coming
Rusty Shallows Black Jackals 263	Posted - 2013.08.15 08:06:00 - [60] - Quote Viktor Skirov wrote: ladwar wrote: Viktor Skirov wrote: Wow, now my Plasma Cannon has become even more useless. I still traumatized for that sentinel who tanked a direct hit, and still had enough HP to kill My whole team while I was reloading, the nightmares are terrible! Now I have heavyboomnodeadphobia D: . . . Did I sayd useless? I meant challenging, and now with the modifications, we all armor tankers will raise from the UP. new heavies will be able to tank forges and rail turrets... nice can we get the SL to lock on to them now? Sadly, i do not believe it, but, just give it a look on a positive perspective, (if you armor tank, of course), While their become even more heavier and harder to kill, so do we, don't you think?. Ladwar isn't jerking your leg. Without mods or proficiency skills even Standard Forge Guns sit under 1.4k damage (Assault and Base-line). The example suit on page one would shave off over 600 damage with the minus ten percent penalty. For simplicity say 800 goes to armor, the ten percent damage bonus still leaves one hundred plus armor left. Proto (and all breach) will still OHK it.



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