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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2013.08.14 04:06:00 -
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Someone had to ask the question, What about kain, what tricks are up his sleeves? Are big things coming? |
The legend345
TeamPlayers EoN.
857
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Posted - 2013.08.14 04:15:00 -
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The game will die after tourney lets be honest. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
541
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Posted - 2013.08.14 04:20:00 -
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<----We all went to eon see |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
539
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Posted - 2013.08.14 04:26:00 -
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The legend345 wrote:The game will die after tourney lets be honest. Probably not, but most/all of the old players will take a considerable break. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1172
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Posted - 2013.08.14 05:37:00 -
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The legend345 wrote:The game will die after tourney lets be honest.
The game's dead. The tourney is the open casket. |
The legend345
TeamPlayers EoN.
860
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Posted - 2013.08.14 05:53:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:The legend345 wrote:The game will die after tourney lets be honest. The game's dead. The tourney is the open casket. Im talking about competitive play. There is some occasional good matches left. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1215
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Posted - 2013.08.14 06:36:00 -
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Well, some will blame CCP because of the gameplay issues we are currently facing.
Personally I blame the playerbase. If we had better working mechanics I can't honestly see the competition doing any better than they currently are, or responding to the ass whupping any more favorably. Yea, people are "bored" but these same guys have been bored for over a year worth of beta and they still log in. So clearly it isn't anymore boring than any other game.
When the playerbase is full of incompetent cowards this is the situation you end up with. That's all there really is to it. |
SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
668
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Posted - 2013.08.14 07:03:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Well, some will blame CCP because of the gameplay issues we are currently facing.
Personally I blame the playerbase. If we had better working mechanics I can't honestly see the competition doing any better than they currently are, or responding to the ass whupping any more favorably. Yea, people are "bored" but these same guys have been bored for over a year worth of beta and they still log in. So clearly it isn't anymore boring than any other game.
When the playerbase is full of incompetent cowards this is the situation you end up with. That's all there really is to it. I want to understand this better.
So because people have been 'bored' for a while that means they'll simply never leave? Have you seen bad relationships of couples who should of never been together but can't seem to separate? Eventually it happens - but not for a while. Something has to break beyond there reasoning. And this tournament and increased bs coming out of CCP and there idea of progress did it for many of us.
Game sucks and nothing in sight is going to fix it. |
Che Cortez
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
43
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Posted - 2013.08.14 07:05:00 -
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SoTah Pawp wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Well, some will blame CCP because of the gameplay issues we are currently facing.
Personally I blame the playerbase. If we had better working mechanics I can't honestly see the competition doing any better than they currently are, or responding to the ass whupping any more favorably. Yea, people are "bored" but these same guys have been bored for over a year worth of beta and they still log in. So clearly it isn't anymore boring than any other game.
When the playerbase is full of incompetent cowards this is the situation you end up with. That's all there really is to it. I want to understand this better. So because people have been 'bored' for a while that means they'll simply never leave? Have you seen bad relationships of couples who should of never been together but can't seem to separate? Eventually it happens - but not for a while. Something has to break beyond there reasoning. And this tournament and increased bs coming out of CCP and there idea of progress did it for many of us. Game sucks and nothing in sight is going to fix it.
Are you short sighted? |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1217
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Posted - 2013.08.14 07:08:00 -
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It's a little more complicated than that, don't you think?
I've got a bunch of free games on my hard drive right now, and they all suck and are boring. I don't play them as a result. This isn't something that happens with Dust, though. Of course, most people eventually move on... that's cyclical and it's what console gamers do. But it's also true that there are a ton of games out there with people screaming "the game is dying! the game is dead!" And these same people say the same thing for years, all the while still playing. So there is a large amount of hypocrisy there that they do not wish to admit to. |
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SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
669
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Posted - 2013.08.14 07:10:00 -
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Che Cortez wrote:SoTah Pawp wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Well, some will blame CCP because of the gameplay issues we are currently facing.
Personally I blame the playerbase. If we had better working mechanics I can't honestly see the competition doing any better than they currently are, or responding to the ass whupping any more favorably. Yea, people are "bored" but these same guys have been bored for over a year worth of beta and they still log in. So clearly it isn't anymore boring than any other game.
When the playerbase is full of incompetent cowards this is the situation you end up with. That's all there really is to it. I want to understand this better. So because people have been 'bored' for a while that means they'll simply never leave? Have you seen bad relationships of couples who should of never been together but can't seem to separate? Eventually it happens - but not for a while. Something has to break beyond there reasoning. And this tournament and increased bs coming out of CCP and there idea of progress did it for many of us. Game sucks and nothing in sight is going to fix it. Are you short sighted? Are you? Going to spat some non sense of "But in 2 years!!!!!" Have fun waiting those two years. We'll be back by then - but current game is crap. |
Kinky Burrito
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
194
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Posted - 2013.08.14 07:11:00 -
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Che Cortez wrote:SoTah Pawp wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Well, some will blame CCP because of the gameplay issues we are currently facing.
Personally I blame the playerbase. If we had better working mechanics I can't honestly see the competition doing any better than they currently are, or responding to the ass whupping any more favorably. Yea, people are "bored" but these same guys have been bored for over a year worth of beta and they still log in. So clearly it isn't anymore boring than any other game.
When the playerbase is full of incompetent cowards this is the situation you end up with. That's all there really is to it. I want to understand this better. So because people have been 'bored' for a while that means they'll simply never leave? Have you seen bad relationships of couples who should of never been together but can't seem to separate? Eventually it happens - but not for a while. Something has to break beyond there reasoning. And this tournament and increased bs coming out of CCP and there idea of progress did it for many of us. Game sucks and nothing in sight is going to fix it. Are you short sighted?
Please tell us what they could possibly do to make this game worthwhile. We're not just talking about a few bug fixes here; this game is extremely flawed top to bottom. There was no real design direction at any time, just a bunch of ideas that CCP thought sounded cool and threw them all together. Now they are looking at the metrics. God help us. |
SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
669
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Posted - 2013.08.14 07:12:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:It's a little more complicated than that, don't you think?
I've got a bunch of free games on my hard drive right now, and they all suck and are boring. I don't play them as a result. This isn't something that happens with Dust, though. Of course, most people eventually move on... that's cyclical and it's what console gamers do. But it's also true that there are a ton of games out there with people screaming "the game is dying! the game is dead!" And these same people say the same thing for years, all the while still playing. So there is a large amount of hypocrisy there that they do not wish to admit to. Considering what was promised compared to those games and what universe this is in - it's not surprising people put in a lot more hope around here. But it's been over a year and CCP is still working on core mechanics that they continue to break and make worse. They cant' fine tune anything - it's either nerf hammer or over buff.
Enoughs enough. |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
799
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Posted - 2013.08.14 07:24:00 -
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When they introduce the remaining heavies/scouts and pilot suit Give us proto tanks Create meaningful engagements at an 8v8 level as well as 16v16 Create more maps and game modes Introduce new weapons that don't create fotm spam Fix hit detection Minimize the effect of cross continental lag Advertise meaningfully and add a lot more players/revenue Create meaningful ways if influencing eve Give us FW loyalty rewards Give corps all the tools available to eve players Give us crest Make a lobby shooter feel more mmofps
This is the short list. If this happens I'll be an official CCP fanboy, go to gabfest every year and create daily threads praising CCP for blessing us with a game I am happy to spend money on. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1218
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Posted - 2013.08.14 07:25:00 -
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I'm well aware of the promises made.
Honestly sometimes I wonder myself why I still support CCP. They are part dragon, part lamb. They are dreamers who seek to do the impossible by doing everything ridiculously simple. They are incredibly ambitious developers, held back by a good number of cowards in the right places.
I think the main reason I stick with them is because you never really know what you're going to end up getting. It's never what they say it's going to be, but to deny the progress they made to EVE over the years is impossible. Dust is having an even rockier launch than EVE did, and it's one of those situations where every player counts if its going to stay alive long enough to surprise us.
So I guess I'm going by past experience and lending them my patience, then waiting to be surprised. Not everyone has watched EVE bloom over the years, so it's more difficult for them to have faith in Dust. I've learned to accept the game for it is now, and I put all of my enjoyment in the actual competition aspect of it. Winning against a tough opponent is still fun, and it always will be. |
Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
182
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Posted - 2013.08.14 07:28:00 -
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Honestly what other games besides maybe gta v, will be really worthwhile? Bf4 will be fun on occasion, but if dust really feels different (and better) with the next two updates. Id say not many people will leave. Also not sure why people are hyping up the ps4 so hard lol. I plan to get one but honestly, its just a new console not anything revolutionary from what we have. As far as ps2, i can play that on pc and so its nothing special.
Ps: people blaming eon for pc being boring, if eon disbanded, all it would be is ex eon fighting ex eon. Not too much progress there. |
Kinky Burrito
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
194
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Posted - 2013.08.14 07:36:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:When they introduce the remaining heavies/scouts and pilot suit Give us proto tanks Create meaningful engagements at an 8v8 level as well as 16v16 Create more maps and game modes Introduce new weapons that don't create fotm spam Fix hit detection Minimize the effect of cross continental lag Advertise meaningfully and add a lot more players/revenue Create meaningful ways if influencing eve Give us FW loyalty rewards Give corps all the tools available to eve players Give us crest Make a lobby shooter feel more mmofps
This is the short list. If this happens I'll be an official CCP fanboy, go to gabfest every year and create daily threads praising CCP for blessing us with a game I am happy to spend money on.
They don't know how to create good maps. They don't know how to add weapons without creating FOTM spam They don't have enough players in Matchmaking to add more game modes. Everything else is stuff that will take them years to do, which should have been done FIRST. |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
800
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Posted - 2013.08.14 07:42:00 -
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Kinky Burrito wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:When they introduce the remaining heavies/scouts and pilot suit Give us proto tanks Create meaningful engagements at an 8v8 level as well as 16v16 Create more maps and game modes Introduce new weapons that don't create fotm spam Fix hit detection Minimize the effect of cross continental lag Advertise meaningfully and add a lot more players/revenue Create meaningful ways if influencing eve Give us FW loyalty rewards Give corps all the tools available to eve players Give us crest Make a lobby shooter feel more mmofps
This is the short list. If this happens I'll be an official CCP fanboy, go to gabfest every year and create daily threads praising CCP for blessing us with a game I am happy to spend money on. They don't know how to create good maps. They don't know how to add weapons without creating FOTM spam They don't have enough players in Matchmaking to add more game modes. Everything else is stuff that will take them years to do, which should have been done FIRST.
Precisely why after I get the paycheck that gets me over 1bill isk I'll prolly retire. I need more map variation, and an instant battle que for squads only. I actually do detest pub stomps. After I hit 25 mill sp here in about a month I'll have 2 proto suits maxed and pretty much start saving for the next big update. |
The legend345
TeamPlayers EoN.
864
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Posted - 2013.08.14 07:50:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Kinky Burrito wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:When they introduce the remaining heavies/scouts and pilot suit Give us proto tanks Create meaningful engagements at an 8v8 level as well as 16v16 Create more maps and game modes Introduce new weapons that don't create fotm spam Fix hit detection Minimize the effect of cross continental lag Advertise meaningfully and add a lot more players/revenue Create meaningful ways if influencing eve Give us FW loyalty rewards Give corps all the tools available to eve players Give us crest Make a lobby shooter feel more mmofps
This is the short list. If this happens I'll be an official CCP fanboy, go to gabfest every year and create daily threads praising CCP for blessing us with a game I am happy to spend money on. They don't know how to create good maps. They don't know how to add weapons without creating FOTM spam They don't have enough players in Matchmaking to add more game modes. Everything else is stuff that will take them years to do, which should have been done FIRST. Precisely why after I get the paycheck that gets me over 1bill isk I'll prolly retire. I need more map variation, and an instant battle que for squads only. I actually do detest pub stomps. After I hit 25 mill sp here in about a month I'll have 2 proto suits maxed and pretty much start saving for the next big update. 25 mil da fak? :O |
Kinky Burrito
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
194
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Posted - 2013.08.14 07:57:00 -
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By the way, today there was a dev post acknowledging the strafe speed bug, despite the fact that they spent 2 months telling us it was all in our heads. Welcome to New Eden. |
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Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1224
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Posted - 2013.08.14 08:40:00 -
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Kinky Burrito wrote:By the way, today there was a dev post acknowledging the strafe speed bug, despite the fact that they spent 2 months telling us it was all in our heads. Welcome to New Eden.
There is that. |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
531
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Posted - 2013.08.14 08:40:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:It's a little more complicated than that, don't you think?
I've got a bunch of free games on my hard drive right now, and they all suck and are boring. I don't play them as a result. This isn't something that happens with Dust, though. Of course, most people eventually move on... that's cyclical and it's what console gamers do. But it's also true that there are a ton of games out there with people screaming "the game is dying! the game is dead!" And these same people say the same thing for years, all the while still playing. So there is a large amount of hypocrisy there that they do not wish to admit to.
I laughed hysterically reading this. So true. \ |
SOGZ PANDA
The Southern Legion
12
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Posted - 2013.08.14 12:19:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:It's a little more complicated than that, don't you think?
I've got a bunch of free games on my hard drive right now, and they all suck and are boring. I don't play them as a result. This isn't something that happens with Dust, though. Of course, most people eventually move on... that's cyclical and it's what console gamers do. But it's also true that there are a ton of games out there with people screaming "the game is dying! the game is dead!" And these same people say the same thing for years, all the while still playing. So there is a large amount of hypocrisy there that they do not wish to admit to.
LOL i hear that, you should watch some call of duty youtube commentators talk about how dead COD is now. I just sit thinking (damn we'll take some of those hundreds of thousands everyday) |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
1231
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Posted - 2013.08.14 14:32:00 -
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The legend345 wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Kinky Burrito wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:When they introduce the remaining heavies/scouts and pilot suit Give us proto tanks Create meaningful engagements at an 8v8 level as well as 16v16 Create more maps and game modes Introduce new weapons that don't create fotm spam Fix hit detection Minimize the effect of cross continental lag Advertise meaningfully and add a lot more players/revenue Create meaningful ways if influencing eve Give us FW loyalty rewards Give corps all the tools available to eve players Give us crest Make a lobby shooter feel more mmofps
This is the short list. If this happens I'll be an official CCP fanboy, go to gabfest every year and create daily threads praising CCP for blessing us with a game I am happy to spend money on. They don't know how to create good maps. They don't know how to add weapons without creating FOTM spam They don't have enough players in Matchmaking to add more game modes. Everything else is stuff that will take them years to do, which should have been done FIRST. Precisely why after I get the paycheck that gets me over 1bill isk I'll prolly retire. I need more map variation, and an instant battle que for squads only. I actually do detest pub stomps. After I hit 25 mill sp here in about a month I'll have 2 proto suits maxed and pretty much start saving for the next big update. 25 mil da fak? :O
Slackers... in a month ill have well more than that, and I even stopped using boosters :P
25m? That was LAST week |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
553
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Posted - 2013.08.14 14:39:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Well, some will blame CCP because of the gameplay issues we are currently facing.
Personally I blame the playerbase. If we had better working mechanics I can't honestly see the competition doing any better than they currently are, or responding to the ass whupping any more favorably. Yea, people are "bored" but these same guys have been bored for over a year worth of beta and they still log in. So clearly it isn't anymore boring than any other game.
When the playerbase is full of incompetent cowards this is the situation you end up with. That's all there really is to it. I think that the playerbase is the difference, if this was released on PC for EVE players it would turn out different, then again there would be a lot more different about the game.
Also, Holy shit pretty good discussion about the game in general... |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
553
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Posted - 2013.08.14 14:41:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:Honestly what other games besides maybe gta v, will be really worthwhile? Bf4 will be fun on occasion, but if dust really feels different (and better) with the next two updates. Id say not many people will leave. Also not sure why people are hyping up the ps4 so hard lol. I plan to get one but honestly, its just a new console not anything revolutionary from what we have. As far as ps2, i can play that on pc and so its nothing special.
Ps: people blaming eon for pc being boring, if eon disbanded, all it would be is ex eon fighting ex eon. Not too much progress there. Speaking of EoN, anyone else would do the same, it's human nature. |
zBroadway
Ancient Exiles
76
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Posted - 2013.08.14 14:47:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Well, some will blame CCP because of the gameplay issues we are currently facing.
Personally I blame the playerbase. If we had better working mechanics I can't honestly see the competition doing any better than they currently are, or responding to the ass whupping any more favorably. Yea, people are "bored" but these same guys have been bored for over a year worth of beta and they still log in. So clearly it isn't anymore boring than any other game.
When the playerbase is full of incompetent cowards this is the situation you end up with. That's all there really is to it.
EoN having 15 corporations in their alliance isnt the hammer nailing the nails into the coffin though...that's for sure. |
Superhero Rawdon
Chaotic-Intent
72
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Posted - 2013.08.14 15:01:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:When they introduce the remaining heavies/scouts and pilot suit Give us proto tanks Create meaningful engagements at an 8v8 level as well as 16v16 Create more maps and game modes Introduce new weapons that don't create fotm spam Fix hit detection Minimize the effect of cross continental lag Advertise meaningfully and add a lot more players/revenue Create meaningful ways if influencing eve Give us FW loyalty rewards Give corps all the tools available to eve players Give us crest Make a lobby shooter feel more mmofps
This is the short list. If this happens I'll be an official CCP fanboy, go to gabfest every year and create daily threads praising CCP for blessing us with a game I am happy to spend money on.
this +1
have to add something tho......
the training arenas and PvE |
Superhero Rawdon
Chaotic-Intent
72
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Posted - 2013.08.14 15:03:00 -
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zBroadway wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Well, some will blame CCP because of the gameplay issues we are currently facing.
Personally I blame the playerbase. If we had better working mechanics I can't honestly see the competition doing any better than they currently are, or responding to the ass whupping any more favorably. Yea, people are "bored" but these same guys have been bored for over a year worth of beta and they still log in. So clearly it isn't anymore boring than any other game.
When the playerbase is full of incompetent cowards this is the situation you end up with. That's all there really is to it. EoN having 15 corporations in their alliance isnt the hammer nailing the nails into the coffin though...that's for sure.
wut?
eon just want to play and enjoy the game. so sick of the QQ about eon.
even tho i believe they should, they will never engage themselves in heavy pc battles, even tho they do set up scrims with themselves. (insert playing with yourself reference here)
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RAGEHEAVYD
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
45
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Posted - 2013.08.14 16:34:00 -
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The legend345 wrote:The game will die after tourney lets be honest.
I agree that this is a strong possibility but the truth is if it dies its not the fault of CCP but of the community for allowing it to happen. Sitting around complaining about the game and doing nothing has been the MO of most playing this game. EoN is only as strong and powerful in a sense of Planetary control because the community allowed it. Teamplayers as a whole has done most of the work to get EoN where it is and cuddos to them for all the hard work. However, where is the work on the other side of the fence? Getting others to do your bidding has now back fired in the face of many and all I see is QQ all over the forums. The other 14 corporations in EoN have been riding the coattails of Teamplayers since uprising and when push comes to shove and Teamplayers isn't able to support fighting the majority of EoNs battles what will the status of EoN be in PC?. This isn't to say that EoN corporations are unable to defend or attack its to say that they will have to be responsible for their success instead of taking the credit for someone else's work. There is plenty of life in this game and a good future if we want there to be but its on the community to make it fun and exciting to play. |
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