The game will die after tourney lets be honest.

The game will die after tourney lets be honest.

The game's dead. The tourney is the open casket.

Well, some will blame CCP because of the gameplay issues we are currently facing.

Personally I blame the playerbase. If we had better working mechanics I can't honestly see the competition doing any better than they currently are, or responding to the ass whupping any more favorably. Yea, people are "bored" but these same guys have been bored for over a year worth of beta and they still log in. So clearly it isn't anymore boring than any other game.

When the playerbase is full of incompetent cowards this is the situation you end up with. That's all there really is to it.

I want to understand this better.

So because people have been 'bored' for a while that means they'll simply never leave? Have you seen bad relationships of couples who should of never been together but can't seem to separate? Eventually it happens - but not for a while. Something has to break beyond there reasoning. And this tournament and increased bs coming out of CCP and there idea of progress did it for many of us.

Game sucks and nothing in sight is going to fix it.

Are you short sighted?

Are you short sighted?

It's a little more complicated than that, don't you think?

I've got a bunch of free games on my hard drive right now, and they all suck and are boring. I don't play them as a result. This isn't something that happens with Dust, though. Of course, most people eventually move on... that's cyclical and it's what console gamers do. But it's also true that there are a ton of games out there with people screaming "the game is dying! the game is dead!" And these same people say the same thing for years, all the while still playing. So there is a large amount of hypocrisy there that they do not wish to admit to.

When they introduce the remaining heavies/scouts and pilot suit
Give us proto tanks
Create meaningful engagements at an 8v8 level as well as 16v16
Create more maps and game modes
Introduce new weapons that don't create fotm spam
Fix hit detection
Minimize the effect of cross continental lag
Advertise meaningfully and add a lot more players/revenue
Create meaningful ways if influencing eve
Give us FW loyalty rewards
Give corps all the tools available to eve players
Give us crest
Make a lobby shooter feel more mmofps

This is the short list. If this happens I'll be an official CCP fanboy, go to gabfest every year and create daily threads praising CCP for blessing us with a game I am happy to spend money on.

They don't know how to create good maps.
They don't know how to add weapons without creating FOTM spam
They don't have enough players in Matchmaking to add more game modes.
Everything else is stuff that will take them years to do, which should have been done FIRST.

Precisely why after I get the paycheck that gets me over 1bill isk I'll prolly retire. I need more map variation, and an instant battle que for squads only. I actually do detest pub stomps. After I hit 25 mill sp here in about a month I'll have 2 proto suits maxed and pretty much start saving for the next big update.

By the way, today there was a dev post acknowledging the strafe speed bug, despite the fact that they spent 2 months telling us it was all in our heads. Welcome to New Eden.

It's a little more complicated than that, don't you think?

I've got a bunch of free games on my hard drive right now, and they all suck and are boring. I don't play them as a result. This isn't something that happens with Dust, though. Of course, most people eventually move on... that's cyclical and it's what console gamers do. But it's also true that there are a ton of games out there with people screaming "the game is dying! the game is dead!" And these same people say the same thing for years, all the while still playing. So there is a large amount of hypocrisy there that they do not wish to admit to.

It's a little more complicated than that, don't you think?

I've got a bunch of free games on my hard drive right now, and they all suck and are boring. I don't play them as a result. This isn't something that happens with Dust, though. Of course, most people eventually move on... that's cyclical and it's what console gamers do. But it's also true that there are a ton of games out there with people screaming "the game is dying! the game is dead!" And these same people say the same thing for years, all the while still playing. So there is a large amount of hypocrisy there that they do not wish to admit to.

25 mil da fak? :O

Well, some will blame CCP because of the gameplay issues we are currently facing.

Personally I blame the playerbase. If we had better working mechanics I can't honestly see the competition doing any better than they currently are, or responding to the ass whupping any more favorably. Yea, people are "bored" but these same guys have been bored for over a year worth of beta and they still log in. So clearly it isn't anymore boring than any other game.

When the playerbase is full of incompetent cowards this is the situation you end up with. That's all there really is to it.

Honestly what other games besides maybe gta v, will be really worthwhile? Bf4 will be fun on occasion, but if dust really feels different (and better) with the next two updates. Id say not many people will leave. Also not sure why people are hyping up the ps4 so hard lol. I plan to get one but honestly, its just a new console not anything revolutionary from what we have. As far as ps2, i can play that on pc and so its nothing special.

Ps: people blaming eon for pc being boring, if eon disbanded, all it would be is ex eon fighting ex eon. Not too much progress there.

Well, some will blame CCP because of the gameplay issues we are currently facing.

Personally I blame the playerbase. If we had better working mechanics I can't honestly see the competition doing any better than they currently are, or responding to the ass whupping any more favorably. Yea, people are "bored" but these same guys have been bored for over a year worth of beta and they still log in. So clearly it isn't anymore boring than any other game.

When the playerbase is full of incompetent cowards this is the situation you end up with. That's all there really is to it.

When they introduce the remaining heavies/scouts and pilot suit
Give us proto tanks
Create meaningful engagements at an 8v8 level as well as 16v16
Create more maps and game modes
Introduce new weapons that don't create fotm spam
Fix hit detection
Minimize the effect of cross continental lag
Advertise meaningfully and add a lot more players/revenue
Create meaningful ways if influencing eve
Give us FW loyalty rewards
Give corps all the tools available to eve players
Give us crest
Make a lobby shooter feel more mmofps

This is the short list. If this happens I'll be an official CCP fanboy, go to gabfest every year and create daily threads praising CCP for blessing us with a game I am happy to spend money on.

EoN having 15 corporations in their alliance isnt the hammer nailing the nails into the coffin though...that's for sure.

The game will die after tourney lets be honest.

Well, some will blame CCP because of the gameplay issues we are currently facing.

Personally I blame the playerbase. If we had better working mechanics I can't honestly see the competition doing any better than they currently are, or responding to the ass whupping any more favorably. Yea, people are "bored" but these same guys have been bored for over a year worth of beta and they still log in. So clearly it isn't anymore boring than any other game.

When the playerbase is full of incompetent cowards this is the situation you end up with. That's all there really is to it.

I agree that this is a strong possibility but the truth is if it dies its not the fault of CCP but of the community for allowing it to happen. Sitting around complaining about the game and doing nothing has been the MO of most playing this game. EoN is only as strong and powerful in a sense of Planetary control because the community allowed it. Teamplayers as a whole has done most of the work to get EoN where it is and cuddos to them for all the hard work. However, where is the work on the other side of the fence? Getting others to do your bidding has now back fired in the face of many and all I see is QQ all over the forums. The other 14 corporations in EoN have been riding the coattails of Teamplayers since uprising and when push comes to shove and Teamplayers isn't able to support fighting the majority of EoNs battles what will the status of EoN be in PC?. This isn't to say that EoN corporations are unable to defend or attack its to say that they will have to be responsible for their success instead of taking the credit for someone else's work. There is plenty of life in this game and a good future if we want there to be but its on the community to make it fun and exciting to play.

So it went from whats to come from NF to how this games going to die and all that malarkie

Honestly what other games besides maybe gta v, will be really worthwhile? Bf4 will be fun on occasion, but if dust really feels different (and better) with the next two updates. Id say not many people will leave. Also not sure why people are hyping up the ps4 so hard lol. I plan to get one but honestly, its just a new console not anything revolutionary from what we have. As far as ps2, i can play that on pc and so its nothing special.

Ps: people blaming eon for pc being boring, if eon disbanded, all it would be is ex eon fighting ex eon. Not too much progress there.

I agree that this is a strong possibility but the truth is if it dies its not the fault of CCP but of the community for allowing it to happen. Sitting around complaining about the game and doing nothing has been the MO of most playing this game. EoN is only as strong and powerful in a sense of Planetary control because the community allowed it. Teamplayers as a whole has done most of the work to get EoN where it is and cuddos to them for all the hard work. However, where is the work on the other side of the fence? Getting others to do your bidding has now back fired in the face of many and all I see is QQ all over the forums. The other 14 corporations in EoN have been riding the coattails of Teamplayers since uprising and when push comes to shove and Teamplayers isn't able to support fighting the majority of EoNs battles what will the status of EoN be in PC?. This isn't to say that EoN corporations are unable to defend or attack its to say that they will have to be responsible for their success instead of taking the credit for someone else's work. There is plenty of life in this game and a good future if we want there to be but its on the community to make it fun and exciting to play.

Well, some will blame CCP because of the gameplay issues we are currently facing.

Personally I blame the playerbase. If we had better working mechanics I can't honestly see the competition doing any better than they currently are, or responding to the ass whupping any more favorably. Yea, people are "bored" but these same guys have been bored for over a year worth of beta and they still log in. So clearly it isn't anymore boring than any other game.

When the playerbase is full of incompetent cowards this is the situation you end up with. That's all there really is to it.

I agree that this is a strong possibility but the truth is if it dies its not the fault of CCP but of the community for allowing it to happen. Sitting around complaining about the game and doing nothing has been the MO of most playing this game. EoN is only as strong and powerful in a sense of Planetary control because the community allowed it. Teamplayers as a whole has done most of the work to get EoN where it is and cuddos to them for all the hard work. However, where is the work on the other side of the fence? Getting others to do your bidding has now back fired in the face of many and all I see is QQ all over the forums. The other 14 corporations in EoN have been riding the coattails of Teamplayers since uprising and when push comes to shove and Teamplayers isn't able to support fighting the majority of EoNs battles what will the status of EoN be in PC?. This isn't to say that EoN corporations are unable to defend or attack its to say that they will have to be responsible for their success instead of taking the credit for someone else's work. There is plenty of life in this game and a good future if we want there to be but its on the community to make it fun and exciting to play.

Ohh man lol...talk about belittling.

You mean, what will all of the corps outside of EoN do if Teamplayers aren't able to help them out.

But out of curiousity....why do you feel that EoN corps are not responsible for their success?

We all new NF would fold, Elitests always do they lose a game or 2 or 7, and then start screaming the game is dead and broken. Alas they still show up everyday.

Part of it sadly is Subdreddit. SyN, Red Star., RND, Pure Innocence, there are many great corps in EoN that are stronger than most of the corps in the game, when people QQ about EoN having the best players since imps left...they aren't talking about TP's and then the rest. Some of these guys are damn good, try playing RND NPRZ, you'll qickly realize that they are really talented.

Subdreddit already knows though....that's why I don't understand why they are disrespecting every corp except TP. I, honestly, don't care if we get respect or not. I am just trying to understand the motivation behind some of these statements.

Subdreddit already knows though....that's why I don't understand why they are disrespecting every corp except TP. I, honestly, don't care if we get respect or not. I am just trying to understand the motivation behind some of these statements.

lol@ TP = EoN

I love my EoN Bros, don't get me wrong, but you know how many matches TP would have to have thrown if it weren't for other EoN corps helping them fill the matches?

I think people overlook the other EoN corps to much. All of the EoN corps help make EoN what it is. Not just TP. We think of ourselves as ONE big corporation.

But, I mean, if you want to blame one cog in a whole clock for your incompetence to defeat an enemy then go right ahead. Who am I to stop you?

If your talking about me I'm just saying TP is the best corp in eon and probly the best in dust atm I just don't like when people talk big then don't fight their own battles

idk O.H had a 1 for 1 with TP in our practice match :P

I completely disagree,

I am about 95% certain that if we had PC mechanics that we have now, the Imperfects would not of quit dust.

I honestly completely blame Team TrueGrit for ruining Dust 514. They overhyped a product, and for many that was just the last straw

idk O.H had a 1 for 1 with TP in our practice match :P

Hey reg see the members increasing in the imperfects? Give you any ideas?

Big things are coming?

I agree that this is a strong possibility but the truth is if it dies its not the fault of CCP but of the community for allowing it to happen. Sitting around complaining about the game and doing nothing has been the MO of most playing this game. EoN is only as strong and powerful in a sense of Planetary control because the community allowed it. Teamplayers as a whole has done most of the work to get EoN where it is and cuddos to them for all the hard work. However, where is the work on the other side of the fence? Getting others to do your bidding has now back fired in the face of many and all I see is QQ all over the forums. The other 14 corporations in EoN have been riding the coattails of Teamplayers since uprising and when push comes to shove and Teamplayers isn't able to support fighting the majority of EoNs battles what will the status of EoN be in PC?. This isn't to say that EoN corporations are unable to defend or attack its to say that they will have to be responsible for their success instead of taking the credit for someone else's work. There is plenty of life in this game and a good future if we want there to be but its on the community to make it fun and exciting to play.

This is a joke.

Twisted when you get a new address and move from Irrelevant blvd, we'll let you know

Well he did disappear around the same time as Hardfacts, and then appeared recently along with him as well

Probably is ER trying to get attention. I probably won't pay attention to him ever again.

Relevant. I've heard this word used alot lately.

See the thing about relevancy that I am not clear about, do you mean that one is only relevant if they are successful in PC?

Or a part of your alliance?

Or a good KDR?

Lots of likes?

Just curious.

Or is it the latest and greatest epeen leet internet insult like calling someone a "tryhard"?

Thanks.

P.S. inb4 "LOL BULLITT YOU ARE NOT RELEVANT!!"

Irrelevant = Comment on damn near every little thing regardless if he has any position to contribute to the topic or not. Consider irrelevant in this case as wasting the time of everyone so u can add in 2 cents...

Twisted when you get a new address and move from Irrelevant blvd, we'll let you know

If you are insinuating im irrelevant, well the you are absolutely right.

Ok back to the fields to farm my crops :P

Twisted when you get a new address and move from Irrelevant blvd, we'll let you know

EoN having 15 corporations in their alliance isnt the hammer nailing the nails into the coffin though...that's for sure.

I agree that this is a strong possibility but the truth is if it dies its not the fault of CCP but of the community for allowing it to happen. Sitting around complaining about the game and doing nothing has been the MO of most playing this game. EoN is only as strong and powerful in a sense of Planetary control because the community allowed it. Teamplayers as a whole has done most of the work to get EoN where it is and cuddos to them for all the hard work. However, where is the work on the other side of the fence? Getting others to do your bidding has now back fired in the face of many and all I see is QQ all over the forums. The other 14 corporations in EoN have been riding the coattails of Teamplayers since uprising and when push comes to shove and Teamplayers isn't able to support fighting the majority of EoNs battles what will the status of EoN be in PC?. This isn't to say that EoN corporations are unable to defend or attack its to say that they will have to be responsible for their success instead of taking the credit for someone else's work. There is plenty of life in this game and a good future if we want there to be but its on the community to make it fun and exciting to play.

EoN having 15 corporations in their alliance isnt the hammer nailing the nails into the coffin though...that's for sure.

13* GATT and RSJR are alts and extentions of SyN and R*S, started with 10 corps now 13 with about 1600 players, ROFL had 18 corps with 3000, CRONOS has 11 with about 2000 ppl, Orion has 3500 ppl with over 20 corps, Darkstar army has 29 corps with 3K (they still around just dont PC), LoI had about same numbers as us 1600.

so dont blame us for ppl failcascading that meta was 2 weeks ago
other alliances had alot more corps and alot more members only difference is that we outlasted them on this lolgame so thats a **** poor excuse thats been played out for far too long now.

ppl expect us to KICK ppl out our alliance we spent over a year building for the long run (dust doesnt end in MH gents *gasp*) because OTHER ppl up and left the game and others quit.....yall realise how FUCKIN STUPID that sounds? This is why alot of ppl can never see the bigger picture and too short sighted

While ppl sitting around here dwelling on lolPC we already thinking ahead on continuing to build our community and establishing EoN. presence in alot of other games while DUST plays catch up. Problem with this game isnt EoN its the community lacking leaders with vision and patience to build something special and lacking stable corps.

TL;DR the hammer driving the nails into the coffin isnt EoN its CCP and the community.
- CCP for failing to produce an up to par shooter thus forcing players away to look for better games
- CCP for making the newbie experience as painful as possible pushing away potential new players
- Community constantly QQing

My alt is Max Tankitus :) Hope you enjoyed my short story.

How is that for "integrity" lol

Community. Take a good hard look at the person who has gained control over the top 5% skill left playing this game. Look at how this jackass addresses the community. If any of you still have a glimmer of hope in your eye that this game could becomes something great where all can enjoy the full content in this game, you are dreaming. You can tell by this kids post that he is out to set the world on fire. He is a joker, a clown, and far from a "leader". He may have led EoN extremely well straight to farmville. But foresight of his continued actions he has none. He bears no respnsibility for the current state which is PC/Dust 514. He is content with watching this game die a fiery death, while he does absolutely nothing with all his power to even attempt to correct it. He could, he knows it, but he wont. And then when all is said and done he will plan on pissing on the ashes.

His go-to retort is to bring up the past. What other alliances have done. Or, he focuses on the future... what he envisioned EoN will be. But he has blinders on to the present... what Dust/PC is right now. He claims if he were to restructure his alliance to promote more competition, more battles, in PC.. that that would somehow equate to him to kicking people out of his alliance. As if he couldnt just send a message for everyone to rejoin at the first sign of trouble. His people claim to want competition, to want fights, they are bored. he feeds them isk from farmville and says "good job guys, we won". How much longer are you going to pubstomp EoN? How much longer are you going to look into eachothers eyes and honestly say you are having fun sitting in your blue donut? Think about it.. if you arent helping the game progress, helping the community out... you are hurting it. If thats what you want, so be it. But please stop coming off all high and mighty like you are anything but a dictatorship ran by an evil little ****.

have you asked or surveyed your alliance to ask them if they are even having fun in this game right now? Or are you too focused on breaking 1 trillion isk? Diablo 3, GTA 5, Bf4 are all coming out within 2 months. Dont you want to go out with a bang? We all know this game isnt going to make it.. its dead. But why not have some fun until the next wave of people quit? I can see the headline now "Mavado... ruler of MH reviatlizes PC by doing the unthinkable". Make more history, but do it the right way this time.

God help us all.

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LOL Bullitt QQ more, learn2play, you are irrelevant, this game is already dead/dying, PC is a joke nobody cares.

Once again this WILL NOT HAPPEN. Just stop. Go tell some other alliance to break apart an fight each other for the sake of the community. I cant believe your still going at this jesus man. Look at your post you just put all the blame of this game/PC on Mavado hahaha. If the state of this game is on Mavado and only he can do something about ill say this, this game has SHITT DEVS haha. Keep blaming the community, its cute.

No matter how many caps you use, I will not stop. You are cursed with very limited depth and vision, I am sorry for your shortcomings. But this scenario can only reap benefits for both the community AND your group. Are you not bored out of your mind pubbing all day Baracka? Answer that question honestly and I might attempt to take anything you say seriously.

Grown folks talking, gtfo please.

I havn't pubbed in weeks, the only time i play this game is when SyN needs help in a PC or this loltournament.

Yes i've been bored out of mind for a long time but thats not on the players fault, its on CCP. You keep blaming the wrong people its funny. Anyways maybe if you say EoN should break apart to fight each other for your amusement 100 more times it will happen... lol.

Sigh. You just solidified my position. A self proclaimed great player like yourself,

I might attempt to take anything you say seriously

ER, i couldn't believe what I was reading. You're blaming EoN for outlasting the other alliances?

How will breaking up EoN help the game? It will provide competition for EoN corps but how does that help the other corps? How would it help Molon Labe, Subdreddit, Seven, Warravens, etc? Noone is attacking EoN corps and if they break up, they still may not be attacked.

ER, i couldn't believe what I was reading. You're blaming EoN for outlasting the other alliances?

How will breaking up EoN help the game? It will provide competition for EoN corps but how does that help the other corps? How would it help Molon Labe, Subdreddit, Seven, Warravens, etc? Noone is attacking EoN corps and if they break up, they still may not be attacked.

Read here for a short example of how it could work, or not work, in the end it would be up to your leaders to figure out something that could be put in place to help everyone have more fun.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1185735#post1185735

Call it a campaign, idea, meta game.. but the thought is intended to help everyone still playing dust, that includes EoN. Why do I have a vested interest in helping EoN? Well EoN has a vested intrest in ******* everyone else over
Because they are part of the community that I have been gaming in for the past year. I have a vested interest. thats all. I am not blaming EoN for outlasting other alliances.
They killed off the last alliance left, kudos. Now what? Sit around and be asses
If you dont think that has a negative impact on the game as a whole then you fall under the elite gamer douchebag category. Wait you didn't know they're the definition of Elite gamer douches.

How can it be benefcial to completely remove your enemy from the game you want to keep playing? Who are you going to shoot at if all of your enemies are eliminated? There is no PvE element here, and you will not find the competition you claim to be looking for from PFC.

ER-Bullitt is correct: You won Molden Heath. Congratulations, would you like a cookie? You built something great, nobody's denying that.

Now, how do you make it fun again? It generally involves you not being all allies.

Blame CCP i hear this alot too. "Dont hate the player hate the game"

Let me provide a quick analogy as to why this thought needs to be extinguished.

Lets look at the most successful game in the history of man. Chess.

A chess board is a solid piece of wood, the foundation.

The pieces are perfectly distributed on either side. The winner in a game of chess is determined solely by skill, planning and tactics.

Now lets correlate that to Dust.

CCP created the chessboard, Planetary Conquest. Dust 514.

We downloaded our pieces.

Where we messed up was that we, as a community, managed to not evenly distribute the chess pieces.. but in fact we stacked one side with the majority of the queens, bishops and rooks. OOPS! The other side had too many pawns. One side had a very organized King, who planend and had foresite. The other.... well, you know how that story goes.

Who is to blame for this? You cant blame CCP. I have made the mistake of pointing the blame at one person, one organization. Who else was there to point fingers at?

Whatever I have said in the past, trolling, flaming, whatever. Do not let that sway the decision. If you all can make this work, the success will be on your shoulders.. not mine or anyone elses.

Be different, make a change. You may be surprised with the results.

You just compared dust to chess...........I must assume you have never played a game of chess.......

ER-Bullitt is correct: You won Molden Heath. Congratulations, would you like a cookie? You built something great, nobody's denying that.

Now, how do you make it fun again? It generally involves you not being all allies.

Anyone else besides the likes of Lance, Baracka, King Kobrah and Mavado... ok scratch that. Anyone besides someone carrying Synergy Gaming tags from EoN have any thoughts on what I have outlined? If you can relay this idea to your leadership, hopefully those with a little more scope and compassion than these laughable assclowns, that would be awesome.

Cheers.

Community. Take a good hard look at the person who has gained control over the top 5% skill left playing this game. Look at how this jackass addresses the community. If any of you still have a glimmer of hope in your eye that this game could becomes something great where all can enjoy the full content in this game, you are dreaming. You can tell by this kids post that he is out to set the world on fire. He is a joker, a clown, and far from a "leader". He may have led EoN extremely well straight to farmville. But foresight of his continued actions he has none. He bears no respnsibility for the current state which is PC/Dust 514. He is content with watching this game die a fiery death, while he does absolutely nothing with all his power to even attempt to correct it. He could, he knows it, but he wont. And then when all is said and done he will plan on pissing on the ashes.

His go-to retort is to bring up the past. What other alliances have done. Or, he focuses on the future... what he envisioned EoN will be. But he has blinders on to the present... what Dust/PC is right now. He claims if he were to restructure his alliance to promote more competition, more battles, in PC.. that that would somehow equate to him to kicking people out of his alliance. As if he couldnt just send a message for everyone to rejoin at the first sign of trouble. His people claim to want competition, to want fights, they are bored. he feeds them isk from farmville and says "good job guys, we won". How much longer are you going to pubstomp EoN? How much longer are you going to look into eachothers eyes and honestly say you are having fun sitting in your blue donut? Think about it.. if you arent helping the game progress, helping the community out... you are hurting it. If thats what you want, so be it. But please stop coming off all high and mighty like you are anything but a dictatorship ran by an evil little ****.

have you asked or surveyed your alliance to ask them if they are even having fun in this game right now? Or are you too focused on breaking 1 trillion isk? Diablo 3, GTA 5, Bf4 are all coming out within 2 months. Dont you want to go out with a bang? We all know this game isnt going to make it.. its dead. But why not have some fun until the next wave of people quit? I can see the headline now "Mavado... ruler of MH reviatlizes PC by doing the unthinkable". Make more history, but do it the right way this time.

God help us all.

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LOL Bullitt QQ more, learn2play, you are irrelevant, this game is already dead/dying, PC is a joke nobody cares.

coming from someone within the CFC maybe u should tell Mittens to disband it as well based on this lollogic

.

lol this is a classic post

so ur blaming me for ppl quittin the game and not the game being poorly built, u need to get off the kool-aid
u too terribly short sighted
u do realise if this game gets good just like NF we will b back in full force u make it seem like ppl leaving dust without any intention of returning

why is no one complaining about the ppl that left? why is it acceptable to lose and leave or flat out quit (cant blame some of the ppl that did) but constantly complain about the ppl who managed to last?

still waiting on a legit answer to this.

if the shoe was on the other foot and say ROFL was still around strong with their 18 corps and 3000 ppl u damn well wouldnt be hearing EoN bitchin for them to disband the current carebear mentality is whats hurting the game and will continue to hurt the game till more real clans join and that aint happening thanks to new player torture courtesy CCP.

the current carebear mentality is whats hurting the game and will continue to hurt the game till more real clans join and that aint happening thanks to new player torture courtesy CCP

if I had used a metaphor... Chess is Dust 514, then I could see where you are coming from. Instead, what I said in a nutshell .. Chess is like Dust in that.... so on and so forth. I made an analogy (look it up) in hopes to show you that most peoples previous claims were not very well thought out. Nice troll attempt tho. Next.

Hey scrubs this thread is about NF not eon...

Read here for a short example of how it could work, or not work, in the end it would be up to your leaders to figure out something that could be put in place to help everyone have more fun.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1185735#post1185735

Call it a campaign, idea, meta game.. but the thought is intended to help everyone still playing dust, that includes EoN. Why do I have a vested interest in helping EoN? Because they are part of the community that I have been gaming in for the past year. I have a vested interest. thats all. I am not blaming EoN for outlasting other alliances. They killed off the last alliance left, kudos. Now what? If you dont think that has a negative impact on the game as a whole then you fall under the elite gamer douchebag category.

How can it be benefcial to completely remove your enemy from the game you want to keep playing? Who are you going to shoot at if all of your enemies are eliminated? There is no PvE element here, and you will not find the competition you claim to be looking for from PFC.

Look trolling got me nowhere, I even ousted myself as having a troll earlier in this post.
Bating Chicagocubs to do something didnt work.
Now I am pleading. Its ok.. I dont have an inflated ego to worry about fracturing, you know since I'm not even decent, and I can take a little forum abuse. But, I still have a little brain power left to fight for a cause that I feel is righteous enough to warrant a few moments of my time.

Thing is...EoN didnt rub those other corps out of pc. They all left by themselves. EoN also negotiated LOI's surrender and allowed them to rebuild.

All I read on these forums are about how pc is broke this and boring that and noone cares, etc, etc. So, then why does EoN have to work harder than everyone else to save it? I've been saying that if the community rises up against EoN, we would be pushed back. But everyone's response is noone cares enough to organize it. So, then why does EoN have to put the effort to disband and organize it when the community doesn't want to.....AND the community is the one with the problem?

EoN isn't the problem...the community's fear of TP is the problem.

Thing is...EoN didnt rub those other corps out of pc. They all left by themselves. EoN also negotiated LOI's surrender and allowed them to rebuild.

All I read on these forums are about how pc is broke this and boring that and noone cares, etc, etc. So, then why does EoN have to work harder than everyone else to save it? I've been saying that if the community rises up against EoN, we would be pushed back. But everyone's response is noone cares enough to organize it. So, then why does EoN have to put the effort to disband and organize it when the community doesn't want to.....AND the community is the one with the problem?

EoN isn't the problem...the community's fear of TP is the problem.

Ok, I will make you a deal. If you answer this last post honestly I will promise to go away, for good. No more posting from my lovely alt Max Tankitus, no more QQ on the forums, poof.. gone.

If you could rewind time 1 year ago (or more if needed, whenever EoN was formed).

If you knew then, what you know now, would you have still done it the same way. Would you have blued up this far? Knowing that eventually, all the US competition would get beat into submission and quit over it.

Would Cronos have blued up all of Europe?

Knowing that the end result would be a total lack of competition, lack of battles, lack of fun, and eventual demise of the game that you enjoyed playing so much (even with all its flaws and imperfections)?

How would you solve that?

Still We're mercs not land owners fix FW and reinstate Corp battles, while removing PC.

But with that said, I would hope that EoN as a whole would make the choice to adopt my suggestion based on what they thought was best for themselves, and then the community and game second.

Hate to say it, but maybe SyN's fear for competition with TP may be the problem? You claim to want competition, but only against an enemy that you know you have the upper hand on. Pretty lame dont you think? I mean you guys set it up that way, so I am not surprised.

I'm a huge fan of chess - but comparing this to chess in any way is the stupidest fuckin' thing I've ever heard.

To say this game has strategy is like saying checkers is a game for the intelligent.

Well what your excuse against us? Were better killers? Because everyone knows thats not true

I have no clue what you're talking about or why you're beating your chest about your corp when I've never seen you play.

TP spams Uplinks and keeps tight - that's a semblance of strategy - sure - but it's not comparable to chess and an insult to it honestly.

Why is it not comparable to chess? I have given a detailed explanation of the correlation that I feel CAN be made between chess and dust. All you said in a nutshell is "blah blah blah no". Can you elaborate?

The following responses will not be accepted:
LOLNO
Dust sucks, you suck, the world sucks
You are irrelevant
Not even going to bother wasting my time, I dont play dust anymore
etc. etc.


Different games, different types of strategy.. on one hand, you have one brain versus another using 16 pieces to move about a board. On the other hand you have a gathering of 100's of members, coordinating those down to groups of 16 (thats 32 brains in case you are bad at maths), to show up at a set time, press buttons simultaneously and move about a simulated field of battle employing different weapons, vehicles, etc... capping points, depots, laying traps, moving as a unit, dropping equipment, switching between countless numbers of suits to do the job needed. Up against 16 other players pressing buttons simulatneously trying to win the same game. If it didnt take any strategy, then I would hire an army of monkeys to press buttons to beat EoN.

Sota, sometimes you can come off like a real dumbass. Stop trying to pick a fight where there is none.

* Inb4 dust players are monkeys

P.S. I have spent many hours playing chess, started when I was in 5th grade as a part of the "more able students program". yeah, lol someone thought I was smart when I was a kid. Go figure. If your opponent is dumb, chess is a piece of cake. Sometimes you can win it in 3 movs. yeah, lots of strategy there huh pal? dumbass.

To say this game has strategy is like saying checkers is a game for the intelligent.

I dint even know why I bother with your slow ass. For a championship chess nerd you are not very brightl. Even I know how to use dictionary.com


strat-+e-+gy [strat-i-jee] Show IPA
noun, plural strat-+e-+gies.
1.
Also, strategics. the science or art-áof combining and employing the means of war in planning and directing large military movements and operations.
2.
the use or an instance of using this science or art.
3.
skillful use of a stratagem: The salesperson's strategy was to seem always to agree with the customer. ( I do this a lot)
4.
a plan, method, or series of maneuvers or stratagems for obtaining a specific goal-áor result: a strategy for getting ahead in the world.

You are a bitter, butthurt, failed at dust now he hates the game and anyone who plays it, simpleton troll my friend. That is why you fail to see the correlation.

Goodbye,

LOL you do care too much for a game you don't even play. Did you ever enjoy playing this game? Aren't there other forums you can troll?

Your tears keep me coming back. <3

His tears alone?

Are you? Going to spat some non sense of "But in 2 years!!!!!" Have fun waiting those two years. We'll be back by then - but current game is crap.

That's kind of fairweather fandom, don't you think? And it's that attitude that kills games like this. "Oh it sucks now, but we'll be back in 2 years..." There's something to this game, because I've brought in 11 people in the past month, and they all play regularly. I've only had 2 people say they couldn't stand it so far. So there's something here still, bad mechanics and all. Where's your faith? These guys made EVE, they can get this ship righted.

You know - I'd love to help as I had been for a year and 2 months. I didn't start out as a troll - but a debater who challenged bad ideas. But that evolved the more I noticed CCP didn't care for opinions and every update broke more things then it fixed or added. Throw in there tons of lies made in the 2012 presentation at fanfest - there's only so much hope one can have. .

THIS.


If you played this game and been on the forums long as Sota, myself and others you'll have seen this game go from lots of promise to where we are now. Almost all the people talking **** about DUST or putting it down for whatever reason are all people that used to defend the game, or just be quiet(like me). I wouldn't post much besides war room stuff but I never got on CCP or the game i just waited. But that time has come and gone for many.

Most of all the old trolls/people who cared but expressed in a bad way(i.e beers) all left months ago. Most of the people that bittch now are all people that were quiet and tried to defend the game. Patience is up. If only we could know your opinion of Dust and CCP 6months from now.

I was here when sotah wanted the D good times..good times..you finally made it bud

Psh - I didn't ask to join Imps. They came to me.

You were an imp lover

I'm no lover - I back logic and reason and skill. Made me a perfect Imp-canididate.

LOL ZionTCD <3

Gtfo - we all have times in our lives when we look back and say, "wtf was I thinking?" You don't drink bro?

You were an imp lover

I'm no lover - I back logic and reason and skill. Made me a perfect Imp-canididate.