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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
262
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Posted - 2013.08.16 20:28:00 -
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Blame CCP i hear this alot too. "Dont hate the player hate the game"
Let me provide a quick analogy as to why this thought needs to be extinguished.
Lets look at the most successful game in the history of man. Chess.
A chess board is a solid piece of wood, the foundation.
The pieces are perfectly distributed on either side. The winner in a game of chess is determined solely by skill, planning and tactics.
Now lets correlate that to Dust.
CCP created the chessboard, Planetary Conquest. Dust 514.
We downloaded our pieces.
Where we messed up was that we, as a community, managed to not evenly distribute the chess pieces.. but in fact we stacked one side with the majority of the queens, bishops and rooks. The other side had too many pawns. One side had a very organized King, who planend and had foresite. The other.... well, you know how that story goes.
Who is to blame for this? You cant blame CCP. I have made the mistake of pointing the blame at one person, one organization. Who else was there to point fingers at?
Whatever I have said in the past, trolling, flaming, whatever. Do not let that sway the decision. If you all can make this work, the success will be on your shoulders.. not mine or anyone elses.
Be different, make a change. You may be surprised with the results. |
Soraya Xel
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
265
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Posted - 2013.08.16 20:30:00 -
[92] - Quote
ER-Bullitt is correct: You won Molden Heath. Congratulations, would you like a cookie? You built something great, nobody's denying that.
Now, how do you make it fun again? It generally involves you not being all allies. |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
262
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Posted - 2013.08.16 20:37:00 -
[93] - Quote
Soraya Xel wrote:ER-Bullitt is correct: You won Molden Heath. Congratulations, would you like a cookie? You built something great, nobody's denying that.
Now, how do you make it fun again? It generally involves you not being all allies.
grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to know the difference.
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Lunamaria Hawkeye
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
233
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Posted - 2013.08.16 20:44:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:Blame CCP i hear this alot too. "Dont hate the player hate the game"
Let me provide a quick analogy as to why this thought needs to be extinguished.
Lets look at the most successful game in the history of man. Chess.
A chess board is a solid piece of wood, the foundation.
The pieces are perfectly distributed on either side. The winner in a game of chess is determined solely by skill, planning and tactics.
Now lets correlate that to Dust.
CCP created the chessboard, Planetary Conquest. Dust 514.
We downloaded our pieces.
Where we messed up was that we, as a community, managed to not evenly distribute the chess pieces.. but in fact we stacked one side with the majority of the queens, bishops and rooks. OOPS! The other side had too many pawns. One side had a very organized King, who planend and had foresite. The other.... well, you know how that story goes.
Who is to blame for this? You cant blame CCP. I have made the mistake of pointing the blame at one person, one organization. Who else was there to point fingers at?
Whatever I have said in the past, trolling, flaming, whatever. Do not let that sway the decision. If you all can make this work, the success will be on your shoulders.. not mine or anyone elses.
Be different, make a change. You may be surprised with the results.
You just compared dust to chess...........I must assume you have never played a game of chess....... |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
263
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Posted - 2013.08.16 20:47:00 -
[95] - Quote
Lunamaria Hawkeye wrote:ER-Bullitt wrote:Blame CCP i hear this alot too. "Dont hate the player hate the game"
Let me provide a quick analogy as to why this thought needs to be extinguished.
Lets look at the most successful game in the history of man. Chess.
A chess board is a solid piece of wood, the foundation.
The pieces are perfectly distributed on either side. The winner in a game of chess is determined solely by skill, planning and tactics.
Now lets correlate that to Dust.
CCP created the chessboard, Planetary Conquest. Dust 514.
We downloaded our pieces.
Where we messed up was that we, as a community, managed to not evenly distribute the chess pieces.. but in fact we stacked one side with the majority of the queens, bishops and rooks. OOPS! The other side had too many pawns. One side had a very organized King, who planend and had foresite. The other.... well, you know how that story goes.
Who is to blame for this? You cant blame CCP. I have made the mistake of pointing the blame at one person, one organization. Who else was there to point fingers at?
Whatever I have said in the past, trolling, flaming, whatever. Do not let that sway the decision. If you all can make this work, the success will be on your shoulders.. not mine or anyone elses.
Be different, make a change. You may be surprised with the results. You just compared dust to chess...........I must assume you have never played a game of chess.......
Wrong, I didnt compare, or use a metaphor. I made an analogy (look it up) in hopes to show you that most peoples previous claims were not very well thought out. Nice troll attempt tho. Next. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3401
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Posted - 2013.08.16 20:57:00 -
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Funny how the biggest irrelevant people in DUST are making the most noise |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4054
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Posted - 2013.08.16 21:00:00 -
[97] - Quote
Soraya Xel wrote:ER-Bullitt is correct: You won Molden Heath. Congratulations, would you like a cookie? You built something great, nobody's denying that.
Now, how do you make it fun again? It generally involves you not being all allies.
coming from someone within the CFC maybe u should tell Mittens to disband it as well based on this lollogic |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
263
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Posted - 2013.08.16 21:04:00 -
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Anyone else besides the likes of Lance, Baracka, King Kobrah and Mavado... ok scratch that. Anyone besides someone carrying Synergy Gaming tags from EoN have any thoughts on what I have outlined? If you can relay this idea to your leadership, hopefully those with a little more scope and compassion than these laughable assclowns, that would be awesome.
Cheers. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3404
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Posted - 2013.08.16 21:09:00 -
[99] - Quote
ER-Bullitt wrote:Anyone else besides the likes of Lance, Baracka, King Kobrah and Mavado... ok scratch that. Anyone besides someone carrying Synergy Gaming tags from EoN have any thoughts on what I have outlined? If you can relay this idea to your leadership, hopefully those with a little more scope and compassion than these laughable assclowns, that would be awesome.
Cheers.
oh **** i got a call out!!! i feel special now
Edit: Reported for abusive language ... you sound mad... might wanna take a breather. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4056
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Posted - 2013.08.16 21:14:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:Community. Take a good hard look at the person who has gained control over the top 5% skill left playing this game. Look at how this jackass addresses the community. If any of you still have a glimmer of hope in your eye that this game could becomes something great where all can enjoy the full content in this game, you are dreaming. You can tell by this kids post that he is out to set the world on fire. He is a joker, a clown, and far from a "leader". He may have led EoN extremely well straight to farmville. But foresight of his continued actions he has none. He bears no respnsibility for the current state which is PC/Dust 514. He is content with watching this game die a fiery death, while he does absolutely nothing with all his power to even attempt to correct it. He could, he knows it, but he wont. And then when all is said and done he will plan on pissing on the ashes. His go-to retort is to bring up the past. What other alliances have done. Or, he focuses on the future... what he envisioned EoN will be. But he has blinders on to the present... what Dust/PC is right now. He claims if he were to restructure his alliance to promote more competition, more battles, in PC.. that that would somehow equate to him to kicking people out of his alliance. As if he couldnt just send a message for everyone to rejoin at the first sign of trouble. His people claim to want competition, to want fights, they are bored. he feeds them isk from farmville and says "good job guys, we won". How much longer are you going to pubstomp EoN? How much longer are you going to look into eachothers eyes and honestly say you are having fun sitting in your blue donut? Think about it.. if you arent helping the game progress, helping the community out... you are hurting it. If thats what you want, so be it. But please stop coming off all high and mighty like you are anything but a dictatorship ran by an evil little ****. have you asked or surveyed your alliance to ask them if they are even having fun in this game right now? Or are you too focused on breaking 1 trillion isk? Diablo 3, GTA 5, Bf4 are all coming out within 2 months. Dont you want to go out with a bang? We all know this game isnt going to make it.. its dead. But why not have some fun until the next wave of people quit? I can see the headline now "Mavado... ruler of MH reviatlizes PC by doing the unthinkable". Make more history, but do it the right way this time. God help us all. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1182920#post1182920Disclaimer: These thoughts are my own, and do not represent Molon Labe. P.S. Please refrain from the following, just save your bandwidth LOL Bullitt QQ more, learn2play, you are irrelevant, this game is already dead/dying, PC is a joke nobody cares.
lol this is a classic post so ur blaming me for ppl quittin the game and not the game being poorly built, u need to get off the kool-aid u too terribly short sighted u do realise if this game gets good just like NF we will b back in full force u make it seem like ppl leaving dust without any intention of returning
why is no one complaining about the ppl that left? why is it acceptable to lose and leave or flat out quit (cant blame some of the ppl that did) but constantly complain about the ppl who managed to last?
still waiting on a legit answer to this.
if the shoe was on the other foot and say ROFL was still around strong with their 18 corps and 3000 ppl u damn well wouldnt be hearing EoN bitchin for them to disband the current carebear mentality is whats hurting the game and will continue to hurt the game till more real clans join and that aint happening thanks to new player torture courtesy CCP. |
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Soraya Xel
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
265
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Posted - 2013.08.16 21:21:00 -
[101] - Quote
Mavado V Noriega wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:ER-Bullitt is correct: You won Molden Heath. Congratulations, would you like a cookie? You built something great, nobody's denying that.
Now, how do you make it fun again? It generally involves you not being all allies. coming from someone within the CFC maybe u should tell Mittens to disband it as well based on this lollogic
TEST used to be CFC. They split off, to create more good fights. Good fights happened. Success. \o/
(Also, ask Mittens if he knows who I am. Bet the answer's "no".) |
Soraya Xel
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
265
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Posted - 2013.08.16 21:23:00 -
[102] - Quote
EoN players aren't some magical great entity, in a gun-game sense, there are plenty of others that can match them one on one with ease. But in whole match strategy, it's likely EoN has better leadership in that regard. If EoN wanted to create good fights, it's corps should split across the various alliances in New Eden, and try to educate and mentor other platoon leaders across the game.
Once one has something successful nailed down, it's time to go forth and multiply. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
578
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Posted - 2013.08.16 21:34:00 -
[103] - Quote
Hey scrubs this thread is about NF not eon... |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
263
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Posted - 2013.08.16 21:37:00 -
[104] - Quote
First, thank you for responding with some sort of thoughtful, engaging response. Instead of just the usual drivel. I appreciate it (sincerely) even if you despise the mere existance of people like me.
Mavado V Noriega wrote:.
lol this is a classic post
Thanks. I like to think I have a classic mind, different thinking pattern than most. :)
Quote: so ur blaming me for ppl quittin the game and not the game being poorly built, u need to get off the kool-aid u too terribly short sighted u do realise if this game gets good just like NF we will b back in full force u make it seem like ppl leaving dust without any intention of returning
I think you should go back and re-read all of my posts here. I think you are missing my point. I am not blaming you for people quitting the game. I can go ahead and join you in the "dont hate the player, hate the game" dance. But what would that accomplish. As I said, we cant change the game, we are not CCP, this game is the same, and will remain the same, every day we decide to log in. So, back to the point of my suggestion.. what can we change? What can YOU change? our approach to how we play the game.
Regarding NF coming back, again you point to the future.. the past... but not the present. What are you doing today to help better your own gaming experience, that of your members (not the 3 stooges who vomit all over the forums), and lastly that of the community to which you belong?
Quote: why is no one complaining about the ppl that left? why is it acceptable to lose and leave or flat out quit (cant blame some of the ppl that did) but constantly complain about the ppl who managed to last?
still waiting on a legit answer to this.
I have given you this answer ten fold. First, I dont have their email addresses to contact them... sorry. Second, why focus on something that has absolutely no bearing on the present? We cant change the fact tthose people quit because of the imbalanced "chess board" you helped create. but.. BUT.. if this game got better again, we could impact their decision to return? Right?
Quote: if the shoe was on the other foot and say ROFL was still around strong with their 18 corps and 3000 ppl u damn well wouldnt be hearing EoN bitchin for them to disband the current carebear mentality is whats hurting the game and will continue to hurt the game till more real clans join and that aint happening thanks to new player torture courtesy CCP.
But, BUT.... again that is not the case. You have pointed to the past, the future, and now you include "what-ifs". Focus on what you can do today to make this game better. I have faith in you, even if you dont have faith in yourself. Ive said this to you before, you are like superman... with great power comes great responsibility. Do something with it.
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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
263
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Posted - 2013.08.16 21:58:00 -
[105] - Quote
Ok, I will make you a deal. If you answer this last post honestly I will promise to go away, for good. No more posting from my lovely alt Max Tankitus, no more QQ on the forums, poof.. gone.
If you could rewind time 1 year ago (or more if needed, whenever EoN was formed).
If you knew then, what you know now, would you have still done it the same way. Would you have blued up this far? Knowing that eventually, all the US competition would get beat into submission and quit over it.
Would Cronos have blued up all of Europe?
Knowing that the end result would be a total lack of competition, lack of battles, lack of fun, and eventual demise of the game that you enjoyed playing so much (even with all its flaws and imperfections)? |
BULLITTank
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.08.16 22:49:00 -
[106] - Quote
pmub |
Cyrus Grevare
WarRavens League of Infamy
0
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Posted - 2013.08.16 23:10:00 -
[107] - Quote
Quote: the current carebear mentality is whats hurting the game and will continue to hurt the game till more real clans join and that aint happening thanks to new player torture courtesy CCP
I doubt new players would ever be able to create a new and powerful corp that could challenge the current dominance, can anyone guess the grind they'd have to invest to get their new clone's SPs into the 15 mill range just to be able to fight? I grind everyday and still have ways to go... it's vexing. Without a good established corp to back you up it's almost impossible to be competitive, let alone challenge a juggernaut like EoN
I think the only real competition can realistically come from current players base or if veterans would return. That or a massive change by CCP, maybe more EvE interaction, letting EvE Corps set things straight with the mercs here or PvE, nothing better than a horde of alien robots invading planets to shake things up with the local farmers guild
In any case, respect to those winning at Dust. |
Lunamaria Hawkeye
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
233
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Posted - 2013.08.17 00:49:00 -
[108] - Quote
ER-Bullitt wrote:Lunamaria Hawkeye wrote:ER-Bullitt wrote:Blame CCP i hear this alot too. "Dont hate the player hate the game"
Let me provide a quick analogy as to why this thought needs to be extinguished.
Lets look at the most successful game in the history of man. Chess.
A chess board is a solid piece of wood, the foundation.
The pieces are perfectly distributed on either side. The winner in a game of chess is determined solely by skill, planning and tactics.
Now lets correlate that to Dust.
CCP created the chessboard, Planetary Conquest. Dust 514.
We downloaded our pieces.
Where we messed up was that we, as a community, managed to not evenly distribute the chess pieces.. but in fact we stacked one side with the majority of the queens, bishops and rooks. OOPS! The other side had too many pawns. One side had a very organized King, who planend and had foresite. The other.... well, you know how that story goes.
Who is to blame for this? You cant blame CCP. I have made the mistake of pointing the blame at one person, one organization. Who else was there to point fingers at?
Whatever I have said in the past, trolling, flaming, whatever. Do not let that sway the decision. If you all can make this work, the success will be on your shoulders.. not mine or anyone elses.
Be different, make a change. You may be surprised with the results. You just compared dust to chess...........I must assume you have never played a game of chess....... if I had used a metaphor... Chess is Dust 514, then I could see where you are coming from. Instead, what I said in a nutshell .. Chess is like Dust in that.... so on and so forth. I made an analogy (look it up) in hopes to show you that most peoples previous claims were not very well thought out. Nice troll attempt tho. Next.
Ok so u used a simile instead of a metaphor, doesnt change the fact that you compared 2 things that are not similar in any way shape or form. Chess matches are a battle wits. If you think being successful in Dust takes anything more than basic common sense, well, then you are clearly overthinking this whole PC thing.
Or you have never played chess and don't understand that chess is a game of strategy, as I originally suggested. |
SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
725
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Posted - 2013.08.17 02:32:00 -
[109] - Quote
I'm a huge fan of chess - but comparing this to chess in any way is the stupidest fuckin' thing I've ever heard.
To say this game has strategy is like saying checkers is a game for the intelligent. |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
565
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Posted - 2013.08.17 02:44:00 -
[110] - Quote
Heimdallr69 wrote:Hey scrubs this thread is about NF not eon... Well EoN and the EoN haters are too obsessed with each other.
Also SoTa has a wonderful point about Chess and Dust, they are total opposites. |
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
1739
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Posted - 2013.08.17 03:14:00 -
[111] - Quote
ER-Bullitt wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:ER, i couldn't believe what I was reading. You're blaming EoN for outlasting the other alliances?
How will breaking up EoN help the game? It will provide competition for EoN corps but how does that help the other corps? How would it help Molon Labe, Subdreddit, Seven, Warravens, etc? Noone is attacking EoN corps and if they break up, they still may not be attacked. Read here for a short example of how it could work, or not work, in the end it would be up to your leaders to figure out something that could be put in place to help everyone have more fun. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1185735#post1185735Call it a campaign, idea, meta game.. but the thought is intended to help everyone still playing dust, that includes EoN. Why do I have a vested interest in helping EoN? Because they are part of the community that I have been gaming in for the past year. I have a vested interest. thats all. I am not blaming EoN for outlasting other alliances. They killed off the last alliance left, kudos. Now what? If you dont think that has a negative impact on the game as a whole then you fall under the elite gamer douchebag category. How can it be benefcial to completely remove your enemy from the game you want to keep playing? Who are you going to shoot at if all of your enemies are eliminated? There is no PvE element here, and you will not find the competition you claim to be looking for from PFC. Look trolling got me nowhere, I even ousted myself as having a troll earlier in this post. Bating Chicagocubs to do something didnt work. Now I am pleading. Its ok.. I dont have an inflated ego to worry about fracturing, you know since I'm not even decent, and I can take a little forum abuse. But, I still have a little brain power left to fight for a cause that I feel is righteous enough to warrant a few moments of my time.
Thing is...EoN didnt rub those other corps out of pc. They all left by themselves. EoN also negotiated LOI's surrender and allowed them to rebuild.
All I read on these forums are about how pc is broke this and boring that and noone cares, etc, etc. So, then why does EoN have to work harder than everyone else to save it? I've been saying that if the community rises up against EoN, we would be pushed back. But everyone's response is noone cares enough to organize it. So, then why does EoN have to put the effort to disband and organize it when the community doesn't want to.....AND the community is the one with the problem?
EoN isn't the problem...the community's fear of TP is the problem. |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
566
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Posted - 2013.08.17 03:30:00 -
[112] - Quote
Ydubbs81 RND wrote:ER-Bullitt wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:ER, i couldn't believe what I was reading. You're blaming EoN for outlasting the other alliances?
How will breaking up EoN help the game? It will provide competition for EoN corps but how does that help the other corps? How would it help Molon Labe, Subdreddit, Seven, Warravens, etc? Noone is attacking EoN corps and if they break up, they still may not be attacked. Read here for a short example of how it could work, or not work, in the end it would be up to your leaders to figure out something that could be put in place to help everyone have more fun. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1185735#post1185735Call it a campaign, idea, meta game.. but the thought is intended to help everyone still playing dust, that includes EoN. Why do I have a vested interest in helping EoN? Because they are part of the community that I have been gaming in for the past year. I have a vested interest. thats all. I am not blaming EoN for outlasting other alliances. They killed off the last alliance left, kudos. Now what? If you dont think that has a negative impact on the game as a whole then you fall under the elite gamer douchebag category. How can it be benefcial to completely remove your enemy from the game you want to keep playing? Who are you going to shoot at if all of your enemies are eliminated? There is no PvE element here, and you will not find the competition you claim to be looking for from PFC. Look trolling got me nowhere, I even ousted myself as having a troll earlier in this post. Bating Chicagocubs to do something didnt work. Now I am pleading. Its ok.. I dont have an inflated ego to worry about fracturing, you know since I'm not even decent, and I can take a little forum abuse. But, I still have a little brain power left to fight for a cause that I feel is righteous enough to warrant a few moments of my time. Thing is...EoN didnt rub those other corps out of pc. They all left by themselves. EoN also negotiated LOI's surrender and allowed them to rebuild. All I read on these forums are about how pc is broke this and boring that and noone cares, etc, etc. So, then why does EoN have to work harder than everyone else to save it? I've been saying that if the community rises up against EoN, we would be pushed back. But everyone's response is noone cares enough to organize it. So, then why does EoN have to put the effort to disband and organize it when the community doesn't want to.....AND the community is the one with the problem? EoN isn't the problem...the community's fear of TP is the problem. How would you solve that?
Still We're mercs not land owners fix FW and reinstate Corp battles, while removing PC. |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
264
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Posted - 2013.08.17 13:26:00 -
[113] - Quote
Love the trolls, these are really creative responses. "Dude, you never played chess... get good scrub" sigh.
Imbeciles. Replace "Chess" with Checkerboard if it helps you understand the sentiment of the post. The comparison and what I was getting at remains the same.
Or, put "shuffle board".... and then put "young athletic person" on one side, "arthritic grandpa with downs syndrome" on the other. Bit of an extreme, but do you get it? I know you get it, you are just trolling. But just checking, do you get it now? Players of dust responsible for creating balance (not weapon balancing) that CCP decided to forget about. I know this is creative thinking for the a-typical online gamer. Massage your temples and try to use the thing that controls your breathing for something else.
Or I could use baskeball court, and then put "China" on one side, and the "USA Dream Team" on the other...
Or.... you get it right? If not let me know. |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
264
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Posted - 2013.08.17 13:31:00 -
[114] - Quote
Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Thing is...EoN didnt rub those other corps out of pc. They all left by themselves. EoN also negotiated LOI's surrender and allowed them to rebuild.
All I read on these forums are about how pc is broke this and boring that and noone cares, etc, etc. So, then why does EoN have to work harder than everyone else to save it? I've been saying that if the community rises up against EoN, we would be pushed back. But everyone's response is noone cares enough to organize it. So, then why does EoN have to put the effort to disband and organize it when the community doesn't want to.....AND the community is the one with the problem?
EoN isn't the problem...the community's fear of TP is the problem.
I know I am here posting on the forums asking for an alliance to which I am not a part of to do something drastic for the sake of the game.
But with that said, I would hope that EoN as a whole would make the choice to adopt my suggestion based on what they thought was best for themselves, and then the community and game second. As I said before, without the community there will be nobody for EoN to shoot at right? It would be silly to decide on this based on what you read on the forums which have not done a good job representing the community as a whole for a very long time (too many trolls and rubbish)
And I also suggested surveying your active members. How many of them are on the forums, 5% tops? Have you guys checked in with your corp/alliance mates to see what they think of the current situation?
Hate to say it, but maybe SyN's fear for competition with TP may be the problem? You claim to want competition, but only against an enemy that you know you have the upper hand on. Pretty lame dont you think? I mean you guys set it up that way, so I am not surprised. |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
264
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Posted - 2013.08.17 13:39:00 -
[115] - Quote
ER-Bullitt wrote:Ok, I will make you a deal. If you answer this last post honestly I will promise to go away, for good. No more posting from my lovely alt Max Tankitus, no more QQ on the forums, poof.. gone.
If you could rewind time 1 year ago (or more if needed, whenever EoN was formed).
If you knew then, what you know now, would you have still done it the same way. Would you have blued up this far? Knowing that eventually, all the US competition would get beat into submission and quit over it.
Would Cronos have blued up all of Europe?
Knowing that the end result would be a total lack of competition, lack of battles, lack of fun, and eventual demise of the game that you enjoyed playing so much (even with all its flaws and imperfections)?
Mavado, still waiting.
Disclaimer: My thoughts are my own and do not represent those of Molon Labe. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
1740
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Posted - 2013.08.17 14:39:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:ER-Bullitt wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:ER, i couldn't believe what I was reading. You're blaming EoN for outlasting the other alliances?
How will breaking up EoN help the game? It will provide competition for EoN corps but how does that help the other corps? How would it help Molon Labe, Subdreddit, Seven, Warravens, etc? Noone is attacking EoN corps and if they break up, they still may not be attacked. Read here for a short example of how it could work, or not work, in the end it would be up to your leaders to figure out something that could be put in place to help everyone have more fun. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1185735#post1185735Call it a campaign, idea, meta game.. but the thought is intended to help everyone still playing dust, that includes EoN. Why do I have a vested interest in helping EoN? Because they are part of the community that I have been gaming in for the past year. I have a vested interest. thats all. I am not blaming EoN for outlasting other alliances. They killed off the last alliance left, kudos. Now what? If you dont think that has a negative impact on the game as a whole then you fall under the elite gamer douchebag category. How can it be benefcial to completely remove your enemy from the game you want to keep playing? Who are you going to shoot at if all of your enemies are eliminated? There is no PvE element here, and you will not find the competition you claim to be looking for from PFC. Look trolling got me nowhere, I even ousted myself as having a troll earlier in this post. Bating Chicagocubs to do something didnt work. Now I am pleading. Its ok.. I dont have an inflated ego to worry about fracturing, you know since I'm not even decent, and I can take a little forum abuse. But, I still have a little brain power left to fight for a cause that I feel is righteous enough to warrant a few moments of my time. Thing is...EoN didnt rub those other corps out of pc. They all left by themselves. EoN also negotiated LOI's surrender and allowed them to rebuild. All I read on these forums are about how pc is broke this and boring that and noone cares, etc, etc. So, then why does EoN have to work harder than everyone else to save it? I've been saying that if the community rises up against EoN, we would be pushed back. But everyone's response is noone cares enough to organize it. So, then why does EoN have to put the effort to disband and organize it when the community doesn't want to.....AND the community is the one with the problem? EoN isn't the problem...the community's fear of TP is the problem. How would you solve that? Still We're mercs not land owners fix FW and reinstate Corp battles, while removing PC.
Solve what? Removing the fear of TP from players?
If the community opened their eyes, they would know what to do with EoN |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.17 15:00:00 -
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Ydubbs, you seem to have a brain. Congratulations!
Dont waste anymore of your time here. If you have read all my posts, then you got the jist.
Check with your corp mates, if they are all happy with farmville then you have nothing to worry about and sweep my suggestion under the "to be forgotten" mat :)
Thanks for participating ni the discussion in a mature manner. Very much appreciated.
Have a great day. |
Baracka Flocka Flame
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.17 16:26:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:But with that said, I would hope that EoN as a whole would make the choice to adopt my suggestion based on what they thought was best for themselves, and then the community and game second.
Hate to say it, but maybe SyN's fear for competition with TP may be the problem? You claim to want competition, but only against an enemy that you know you have the upper hand on. Pretty lame dont you think? I mean you guys set it up that way, so I am not surprised.
First part - Thanks for looking out whats best for EoN we apperciate it. But im sure leadership will handle that. Whats best for EoN isn't in DUST i can say that much.
Second part - You try to come off as mature and a legit argument then you take shots like that at another corp. Yea that sounds like SyN we scared of compeitition you got us. We sooooo scared of TP!! Hahahaha. Funny how people say we hate compeitition yet only started with what? 1 district at start of PC and took the rest we have? Oh wait, TP did that for us my bad i forgot they gave us all the districts we have. Your weak **** meta about TP being EoN and everyone in EoN being scared of TP is so 2 weeks ago.
It's sad you probably would of got a legit answer(not from me) but you had to resort back to trolling.
Funny how people who have no role in PC always have the biggest mouths. Anyways done responding to you it obv worthless cuz your idea is so awesome and it will save DUST .
Goodluck getting alliances to break apart to fight for your enjoyment. |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
264
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Posted - 2013.08.17 16:52:00 -
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Wasnt trolling, well kind of. I have been gaming online for about 2 years now.. I am a slow learner, but the subculture of online gamers is an interesting one indeed. I noticed alot of you types respond to the "bait" tactic, which allows the conversation to continue. Sometimes I can pick something out of a "bait" post response and spin it into further conversation when people refuse to reply. Unfortunately in your case, your posts are so far down on the relevancy meter that they rarely are worth responding to.. I still have hopes for you tho.
I went back to a "bait" tactic to stir up the conversation and maybe get some people to think for a change. It has worked before, and it might work again :)
Thanks for your support Baracka! |
The legend345
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.17 17:34:00 -
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SoTah Pawp wrote:I'm a huge fan of chess - but comparing this to chess in any way is the stupidest fuckin' thing I've ever heard.
To say this game has strategy is like saying checkers is a game for the intelligent. Well what your excuse against us? Were better killers? Because everyone knows thats not true |
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