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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3565
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:56:00 -
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Let's assume for the moment that we finally got an open market that allows you to at least trade any item (salvage, aurum, or ISK based) to another player for ISK. Right now you have 33 units of the Gaston forge guns that you got from salvage and you are wondering what method is used to estimate the selling price of this item for ISK. How would go about estimating the value of each gastun?
Would you base it off of how many matches it took for you to acquire just one of them?
Would you base it off of supply and demand?
Or would you just shoot in the dark and smooth talk your way into getting someone to needlessly spend tens of millions of ISK per item? |
Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training
EoN.
2042
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:58:00 -
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I would biomass them so I don't have to deal with anymore of this forge gun spam. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star.
EoN.
664
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:59:00 -
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Yes. |
richiesutie 2
Seraphim Auxiliaries
214
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:59:00 -
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For a thales around 500k to a mill |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
EoN.
1638
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:59:00 -
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I would pay around 1-1.2 million a pop for a balac's... I'm sure that will be a pretty close price for most officer weapons? |
calvin b
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
273
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Posted - 2013.08.13 22:01:00 -
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I would pay 500K for a Thale and I have the money to buy a lot of them. So when you are ready to sale them I will take them off your hands. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1623
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Posted - 2013.08.13 22:01:00 -
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richiesutie 2 wrote:For a thales around 500k to a mill
I will buy them from you at that price, and sell them back at 20 times that. |
Stephen Rao
Ahrendee Frontlinez
Omega Commission
50
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Posted - 2013.08.13 22:03:00 -
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I would trade my Thale's and Cala's (and other officer weapons that are useless to me) to corp/alliance players for officer weapons I wanted.
Not all will go at a 1:1 ratio as I know the demand for Balac's and Gaston's will be pretty high. That being said, I've accrued a lot of items to trade  |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1161
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Posted - 2013.08.13 22:04:00 -
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Yeah 500k-1mil for officer weapons.
Balac's are an exception. They're a massive improvement on a Duvolle. Perhaps 1.5mil. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3566
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Posted - 2013.08.13 22:05:00 -
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A thale is a god-mode sniper. I doubt they would ever sell for less than 10 million a piece. |
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
889
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Posted - 2013.08.13 22:08:00 -
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I'll buy thales all day for a million. IMHO, they will end up costing a lot more than that. look at faction stuff in EVE. sometimes it's 100mil. |
richiesutie 2
Seraphim Auxiliaries
215
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Posted - 2013.08.13 22:11:00 -
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mollerz wrote:I'll buy thales all day for a million. IMHO, they will end up costing a lot more than that. look at faction stuff in EVE. sometimes it's 100mil.
O'SNAP *crys in corner cradling his last thale* |
Ren Ratner
Infinite Raiders
49
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Posted - 2013.08.13 22:26:00 -
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Whatever "merchant" types seek to control the market will have a massive influence on the pricing of officer weapons. There are some players/corps out there with A LOT of ISK in their pockets. These players will be capable of purchasing every officer weapon available and inflating the price for resale, and that's what they're going to do. These items seem to be quite rare, so there's going to be a minimum that people think they're worth, and a maximum people with TONS of ISK are willing to pay.
You aren't going to be buying these if you aren't loaded.
Assuming we will be capable of selling AUR gear on the market, this will create a standard AUR to ISK conversion ratio for Dust (in other words a $ to ISK ratio). As evidenced by EVE and various other games, players will jump at the chance to essentially purchase ISK using cash in order to stock up on expensive officer weapons. These guys will have all the officer weapons, they will also ultimately determine how much $ or ISK an officer weapon is likely to cost.
Commence to QQ when Dust truly becomes pay-to-win. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1059
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Posted - 2013.08.13 22:29:00 -
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mollerz wrote:I'll buy thales all day for a million. IMHO, they will end up costing a lot more than that. look at faction stuff in EVE. sometimes it's 100mil.
Players in EVE can easily make what DUST mercs make in a week in a few days. |
Ren Ratner
Infinite Raiders
50
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Posted - 2013.08.13 22:31:00 -
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Assuming that AUR gear is allowed on an open market, the real question is this - how much ISK are you willing to spend on a Militia BPO? They're certainly valuable, and they're likely to dominate the market alongside AUR proto gear. |
Ivat Stark
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
0
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Posted - 2013.08.13 22:40:00 -
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I will trade my gastuns for balacs or thales . |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2967
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Posted - 2013.08.13 22:41:00 -
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If there is no standard price, I'll try to get the most out of it I can.
Once there is a standard price, I'll sell moderately cheaper than it. |
Necandi Brasil
Conspiratus Immortalis
Covert Intervention
272
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Posted - 2013.08.13 22:43:00 -
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When are we getting the open market ? |
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
1761
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Posted - 2013.08.13 22:43:00 -
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Ren Ratner wrote:Assuming that AUR gear is allowed on an open market, the real question is this - how much ISK are you willing to spend on a Militia BPO? They're certainly valuable, and they're likely to dominate the market alongside AUR proto gear.
MLT BPO?
Nah.
They're cheap enough (ISK Wise), dont see a need for them.
I'd only buy Standard BPOs. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
3121
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Posted - 2013.08.13 22:43:00 -
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As much as I can get away. |
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
1130
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Posted - 2013.08.13 22:46:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:mollerz wrote:I'll buy thales all day for a million. IMHO, they will end up costing a lot more than that. look at faction stuff in EVE. sometimes it's 100mil. Players in EVE can easily make what DUST mercs make in a week in a 10 hours.
fixed |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1222
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Posted - 2013.08.13 22:47:00 -
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Thales are going to go much higher than 1 million ISK a pop.
I have so much ISK and I'd love the pour some out on officer weapons, but sadly the only officer Amarr weapon is Wolfman's Scrambler Pistol which I don't really need considering the scrambler pistols on the market are already beastly. Would kill for some officer laser rifles or scrambler rifles though. |
Ren Ratner
Infinite Raiders
50
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Posted - 2013.08.13 22:56:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Ren Ratner wrote:Assuming that AUR gear is allowed on an open market, the real question is this - how much ISK are you willing to spend on a Militia BPO? They're certainly valuable, and they're likely to dominate the market alongside AUR proto gear. MLT BPO? Nah. They're cheap enough (ISK Wise), dont see a need for them. I'd only buy Standard BPOs.
Where might I purchase these Standard BPOs you speak of?
You may consider them to be worthless, but if someone is running around in MLT gear, they're likely doing it to save ISK. If that MLT fitting costs them 0 ISK no matter how many they use, some people see value in that. You don't, and that's fine, but people will buy them. |
Green Living
0uter.Heaven
EoN.
773
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Posted - 2013.08.13 23:07:00 -
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Must be nice to have officer weapons you can use.
Signed
Laser Rifle user |
Bittersteel the Bastard
WarRavens
League of Infamy
139
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Posted - 2013.08.13 23:14:00 -
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Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:Must be nice to have officer weapons you can use.
Signed
Assault Scrambler Rifle user
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ROADKILLURAZZ
MURDER TAXI COMPANY
68
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Posted - 2013.08.14 00:19:00 -
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calvin b wrote:I would pay 500K for a Thale and I have the money to buy a lot of them. So when you are ready to sale them I will take them off your hands.
100 thales 1mill each! Buy up! |
Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
176
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Posted - 2013.08.14 00:23:00 -
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How much would an alt with 10 million SP sell for? |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
517
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Posted - 2013.08.14 00:26:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:mollerz wrote:I'll buy thales all day for a million. IMHO, they will end up costing a lot more than that. look at faction stuff in EVE. sometimes it's 100mil. Players in EVE can easily make what DUST mercs make in a week in a few days.
or a few hours... |
BGoat
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
26
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Posted - 2013.08.14 03:38:00 -
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After reading this thread, I decided to finally whip out one of my Balac's Gar-21 Assault Rifles and see just how good it is. Wow. That thing is a beast! It's too bad I only have 16 of them  I played an entire skirmish match with it and managed to escape without losing one, thankfully.
Anticipating the need to have lots of ISK stockpiled to buy these things once the Player Market arrives may be something that finally gets me to stop using Proto-gear in every match. That said, I don't have much faith that we will have the market anytime in 2013, so meh.
Who's got a ton of these things saved up? Anyone have 100+ of them? I feel like I always get screwed on the officer weapon salvage drops. I seem to get them much less frequently than a lot of other people  |
RA Drahcir
Psygod9
109
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Posted - 2013.08.14 03:43:00 -
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Hold your officer HMGs to trade/sell to me. Thanks. |
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Vin Vicious
Capital Acquisitions LLC
248
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Posted - 2013.08.14 03:46:00 -
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I have about 400+ total officer weapons, balac's and Krin's, 115 and 108 respectively. just to give you an idea...
And only the Wolfman and Cala's I'll be holding onto :/
I'll be willing to trade all of them for some officer CSR's
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
491
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Posted - 2013.08.14 03:54:00 -
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We'll see how many flood the market and drop the value on day 1.
Don't assume that there will be a bidding war, it could end up with the sellers competing more than the buyers. |
BGoat
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
26
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Posted - 2013.08.14 04:03:00 -
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Vin Vicious wrote:I have about 400+ total officer weapons, balac's and Krin's, 115 and 108 respectively. just to give you an idea...
And only the Wolfman and Cala's I'll be holding onto :/
I'll be willing to trade all of them for some officer CSR's
Wow. I have almost 10 million SP right now and only about 60 officer weapons. 16 Balac's and 6 Krin's for the Assault Rifles. How do people have so many officer weapons? Is it true that you get a lot more officer weapons in PC matches? |
KGB Sleep
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
43
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Posted - 2013.08.14 04:12:00 -
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It would be better if Officer weapons didn't have prerequisites.
That would be some real value. |
Vin Vicious
Capital Acquisitions LLC
248
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Posted - 2013.08.14 04:36:00 -
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BGoat wrote:Vin Vicious wrote:I have about 400+ total officer weapons, balac's and Krin's, 115 and 108 respectively. just to give you an idea...
And only the Wolfman and Cala's I'll be holding onto :/
I'll be willing to trade all of them for some officer CSR's
Wow. I have almost 10 million SP right now and only about 60 officer weapons. 16 Balac's and 6 Krin's for the Assault Rifles. How do people have so many officer weapons? Is it true that you get a lot more officer weapons in PC matches?
Beta the drop rate was high |
Drevenger
DUST University
Ivy League
18
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Posted - 2013.08.14 04:47:00 -
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Snce PC is broken and has become farmville there is alot of ISK around, in fact there is too much ISK around. I fear that the Balac and Thales will go between 5 and 10 mil. Hopefully we'll be able to trade them but in all honesty it wouldn't surprise me some organised corp/alliance laying a bil to get 100 of them if PC stays as broken as it is comes players market. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3569
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Posted - 2013.08.14 05:02:00 -
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Nice to see the thread started a very big conversation here already. I wonder how many selfish noobs will start crying in the inevitable "nerf the market" threads. Lol |
deezy dabest
Warpoint Sharx
0
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Posted - 2013.08.14 06:17:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:We'll see how many flood the market and drop the value on day 1.
Don't assume that there will be a bidding war, it could end up with the sellers competing more than the buyers.
Or the increase in them being claimed one at a time in salvage once people are willing to play with them due to being able to buy more just makes even more people want them and drives prices higher. (fingers crossed)
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Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
425
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Posted - 2013.08.15 06:51:00 -
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mollerz wrote:I'll buy thales all day for a million. IMHO, they will end up costing a lot more than that. look at faction stuff in EVE. sometimes it's 100mil.
I can make what the top corps are earning from pc in one day. bah when you think about it we are ants. |
JL3Eleven
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
585
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Posted - 2013.08.15 07:24:00 -
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So how many officer weapons can I get for a 30 day active booster? |
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