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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1151
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Posted - 2013.08.11 12:30:00 -
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I get the whole Green comes first rule and that makes a lot of sense but when I see Logi's running around not.....well Logi-ing .... makes me wonder about that players capacity to understand the role on the battlefield they chose..... |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
483
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Posted - 2013.08.11 12:31:00 -
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Logi Assault > Assault Assault |
Jade Hasegawa
Intrepidus XI EoN.
40
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Posted - 2013.08.11 12:32:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I get the whole Green comes first rule and that makes a lot of sense but when I see Logi's running around not.....well Logi-ing .... makes me wonder about that players capacity to understand the role on the battlefield they chose..... The Logi bro's and Logi sisters that I play with know what to do lol, guess your getting stuck with the muppets |
Mad Mav
Brotherhood of the Commissioned
165
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Posted - 2013.08.11 12:33:00 -
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Maybe they are running around trying to catch up to us.
Or like Ryno said Logi Assault |
StubbyDucky
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
348
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Posted - 2013.08.11 12:34:00 -
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Because CCP made a broke game. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
837
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Posted - 2013.08.11 12:37:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I get the whole Green comes first rule and that makes a lot of sense but when I see Logi's running around not.....well Logi-ing .... makes me wonder about that players capacity to understand the role on the battlefield they chose.....
Maybe I am getting shot at, maybe I just died with you?
I don't always logi, but most of the time I do. I can't believe some of the **** I hear from people sometimes, as if I'm their own personal revive servant. If you die, apparently it is your fault first not mine ( i can sustain you a bit from instant death, but you made the engagement) if I can I will revive you , or I will fall over dead beside you. or even begin shooting at the enemy trying to save my own ass as I retreat.. Don't start bitching in coms logi not doing his job , or where the fk you at with the injector , or why didn't you keep me alive and similar statements. If I got you , be happy I saved you isk.. If I couldn't... don't blame me as the reason your dead or continuing to bleed out.
OP , this is not really all directed at you. Sorry if it seems so, been several logi hate posts lately giving us bad names. We do not make you immortal, CCP does that by allowing you to respawn.
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A-NASTY INFECTION
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2013.08.11 12:37:00 -
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im full proto assault.
and also proto logi but when i use my logi suit i use wirikyomi needle ammo and lvl5 uplinks. now i pick people up yes alot but not where a red dot has him in his sights to fire upon again because i hate this and it would just aggrovate me. im also a killer tho. i see what you mean and i agree.
most logis just want to kill. but hey this is the game that was made for us. as a logi i learned to stay behind my frontline assault as well. to 1 kill the leftovers and 2 revive my squad members or blues. 3 to secure a spawn location where its safe from spawn campers and snipers. and to be honest ive pulled 32 and 0 kill games playing this role. a logi isnt a front line soldier and people dont realize this i love my assault suit but i think the role of a logi a real logi is the most powerful one. because it gives him more awareness of the field and makes you a ton of wp. besides your also showing others in the game that there are teamplayers in the game and not just hungry ass killers
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1151
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Posted - 2013.08.11 12:58:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Logi Assault > Assault Assault That's not an excuse. That's just **** poor reasoning for exploiting game mechanics. Give Logi Suits medium slots and less high lows and they would do their damn jobs |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1151
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Posted - 2013.08.11 13:02:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:True Adamance wrote:I get the whole Green comes first rule and that makes a lot of sense but when I see Logi's running around not.....well Logi-ing .... makes me wonder about that players capacity to understand the role on the battlefield they chose..... Maybe I am getting shot at, maybe I just died with you? I don't always logi, but most of the time I do. I can't believe some of the **** I hear from people sometimes, as if I'm their own personal revive servant. If you die, apparently it is your fault first not mine ( i can sustain you a bit from instant death, but you made the engagement) if I can I will revive you , or I will fall over dead beside you. or even begin shooting at the enemy trying to save my own ass as I retreat.. Don't start bitching in coms logi not doing his job , or where the fk you at with the injector , or why didn't you keep me alive and similar statements. If I got you , be happy I saved you isk.. If I couldn't... don't blame me as the reason your dead or continuing to bleed out. OP , this is not really all directed at you. Sorry if it seems so, been several logi hate posts lately giving us bad names. We do not make you immortal, CCP does that by allowing you to respawn.
You aren't my revive servant but when a logi literally runs over my body while I spamming the call for help button I kind of hope they might stop from their oh so busy schedule of ....well not logi-ing.... to do some.... well Logi-ing...
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
147
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Posted - 2013.08.11 13:03:00 -
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If it makes you feel better, when I'm not being Rambo all by myself because my team is too afraid to push up, I run full support logistics. No, I don't use the MD on it. Scrambler pistol is all I need, for this role was meant for support. |
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Billi Gene
The Southern Legion
233
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Posted - 2013.08.11 13:04:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Rynoceros wrote:Logi Assault > Assault Assault That's not an excuse. That's just **** poor reasoning for exploiting game mechanics. Give Logi Suits medium slots and less high lows and they would do their damn jobs
troll much?
you cannot believe your own words with your understanding of the game mechanics ... or can you and do you? :P
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1151
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Posted - 2013.08.11 13:06:00 -
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Billi Gene wrote:True Adamance wrote:Rynoceros wrote:Logi Assault > Assault Assault That's not an excuse. That's just **** poor reasoning for exploiting game mechanics. Give Logi Suits medium slots and less high lows and they would do their damn jobs troll much? you cannot believe your own words with your understanding of the game mechanics ... or can you and do you? :P
What Im saying is I just don't understand why you would spec into a suit type only to divert it so badly from its intended purpose... |
Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster
98
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Posted - 2013.08.11 13:29:00 -
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I use the Amarr logi as an assault logi, as is it's intended purpose... Is that a problem? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1151
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Posted - 2013.08.11 13:35:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:I use the Amarr logi as an assault logi, as is it's intended purpose... Is that a problem? Hmmm that's a toughie since they were designed to use Side arms and... well they are amarrian...
My anger is somewhat mitigated by my meeting a lovely logi who I saw on many occasions do his duty. This Logi was a true logi, not one of those assault bastards.
Salute to the true Logi! |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
1027
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Posted - 2013.08.11 13:37:00 -
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I am a logistics and I run around shooting up the place with my squad, or team but never solo. Now you might think this is the Logissault gameplay but its not, whats going to keep you alive longer me helping you kill the enemy or sticking needles it a repair tool up your ass? When you die I pick you up but if you died because 3 people rushed you or because you pulled yourself into a hive of enemeis, you damn well know that I wont waste my time. Also when your armor is down and your running back into battle I will not follow you with a repair tool because I will not let you pull me into your suicide attempt, if my repair tool is out or if you see my bright yellow paintjob and you need a repair just stop moving and shoot me or melee me. People get mad when a logi suit isnt swallowing a ton of bullets just to revive you, people dont realise we have very low HP and pulling out of a bad situation is practically impossible, also a good logi will value his life over yours, because a dead logi is a bad logi. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1151
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Posted - 2013.08.11 13:39:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:I am a logistics and I run around shooting up the place with my squad, or team but never solo. Now you might think this is the Logissault gameplay but its not, whats going to keep you alive longer me helping you kill the enemy or sticking needles and a repair tool up your ass? When you die I pick you up but if you died because 3 people rushed you or because you pulled yourself into a hive of enemeis, you damn well know that I wont waste my time. Also when your armor is down and your running back into battle I will not follow you with a repair tool because I will not let you pull me into your suicide attempt, if my repair tool is out or if you see my bright yellow paintjob and you need a repair just stop moving and shoot me or melee me. People get mad when a logi suit isnt swallowing a ton of bullets just to revive you, people dont realise we have very low HP and pulling out of a bad situation is practically impossible, also a good logi will value his life over yours, because a dead logi is a bad logi. That's true and that's what Shy used to tell me. Still a Logi without a team is essentially useless too. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
1027
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Posted - 2013.08.11 13:41:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:I am a logistics and I run around shooting up the place with my squad, or team but never solo. Now you might think this is the Logissault gameplay but its not, whats going to keep you alive longer me helping you kill the enemy or sticking needles and a repair tool up your ass? When you die I pick you up but if you died because 3 people rushed you or because you pulled yourself into a hive of enemeis, you damn well know that I wont waste my time. Also when your armor is down and your running back into battle I will not follow you with a repair tool because I will not let you pull me into your suicide attempt, if my repair tool is out or if you see my bright yellow paintjob and you need a repair just stop moving and shoot me or melee me. People get mad when a logi suit isnt swallowing a ton of bullets just to revive you, people dont realise we have very low HP and pulling out of a bad situation is practically impossible, also a good logi will value his life over yours, because a dead logi is a bad logi. That's true and that's what Shy used to tell me. Still a Logi without a team is essentially useless too.
Definately, a Logi suit running like a solo assault is a bad player, and a bad logi.
Edit: The only time a solo Logi is good is if he is a uplink logi, that's one of my suit fittings I fill up all my slots with uplinks and go to toen. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1151
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Posted - 2013.08.11 13:44:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:True Adamance wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:I am a logistics and I run around shooting up the place with my squad, or team but never solo. Now you might think this is the Logissault gameplay but its not, whats going to keep you alive longer me helping you kill the enemy or sticking needles and a repair tool up your ass? When you die I pick you up but if you died because 3 people rushed you or because you pulled yourself into a hive of enemeis, you damn well know that I wont waste my time. Also when your armor is down and your running back into battle I will not follow you with a repair tool because I will not let you pull me into your suicide attempt, if my repair tool is out or if you see my bright yellow paintjob and you need a repair just stop moving and shoot me or melee me. People get mad when a logi suit isnt swallowing a ton of bullets just to revive you, people dont realise we have very low HP and pulling out of a bad situation is practically impossible, also a good logi will value his life over yours, because a dead logi is a bad logi. That's true and that's what Shy used to tell me. Still a Logi without a team is essentially useless too. Definately, a Logi suit running like a solo assault is a bad player, and a bad logi. And you armour tank too. You are just too good to be true. |
Piercing Serenity
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
406
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Posted - 2013.08.11 13:44:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:I use the Amarr logi as an assault logi, as is it's intended purpose... Is that a problem? Hmmm that's a toughie since they were designed to use Side arms and... well they are amarrian... My anger is somewhat mitigated by my meeting a lovely logi who I saw on many occasions do his duty. This Logi was a true logi, not one of those assault bastards. Salute to the true Logi!
In my eyes, Logi and Medic are not equal. The "Logistics" role focus on being a force multiplier on different parts of the battlefield. Maybe you lay proxy mines and REs to protect a letter. Maybe you reinforce the front line with nanohives and repair tools. Maybe you shape the flow of the battlefield with preemptive Uplinks. All of those 'builds' fall under the logistics description, and none of them require the player to abandon all of their gear to do it. If anything, it might require very high powered gear to set up your proxy mines.
The "Medic" role can be filled by anyone with a Nanite injector, Rep tool, or Triage nanohives. It just so happens that the "Medic" is a role that is shared by all suits (excluding heavies) and is another build under the logistic umbrella. But you shouldn't expect a logi player to use their suit in a particular way any more than I should expect you to run an nanite injector on your assault build or a rep tool on your scout.
TL:DR: Logistics is the Umbrella that the "Medic" role falls under. But anyone can be a medic. If you wanna see more of them, just do it. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1151
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Posted - 2013.08.11 13:46:00 -
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Piercing Serenity wrote:True Adamance wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:I use the Amarr logi as an assault logi, as is it's intended purpose... Is that a problem? Hmmm that's a toughie since they were designed to use Side arms and... well they are amarrian... My anger is somewhat mitigated by my meeting a lovely logi who I saw on many occasions do his duty. This Logi was a true logi, not one of those assault bastards. Salute to the true Logi! In my eyes, Logi and Medic are not equal. The "Logistics" role focus on being a force multiplier on different parts of the battlefield. Maybe you lay proxy mines and REs to protect a letter. Maybe you reinforce the front line with nanohives and repair tools. Maybe you shape the flow of the battlefield with preemptive Uplinks. All of those 'builds' fall under the logistics description, and none of them require the player to abandon all of their gear to do it. If anything, it might require very high powered gear to set up your proxy mines. The "Medic" role can be filled by anyone with a Nanite injector, Rep tool, or Triage nanohives. It just so happens that the "Medic" is a role that is shared by all suits (excluding heavies) and is another build under the logistic umbrella. But you shouldn't expect a logi player to use their suit in a particular way any more than I should expect you to run an nanite injector on your assault build or a rep tool on your scout. TL:DR: Logistics is the Umbrella that the "Medic" role falls under. But anyone can be a medic. If you wanna see more of them, just do it. Force Multiplier to be sure.
Can't really remember the last time a logi multiplied my force though? |
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DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo
1829
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Posted - 2013.08.11 13:50:00 -
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Man, I haven't been picked up by a guy in a Logi suit in a while. I mostly get picked up by guys in Assault suits who have injectors. |
Piercing Serenity
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
406
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Posted - 2013.08.11 13:51:00 -
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As of now, I think force multiplying is very "big picture". Individually, you might only feel like a logi is doing their job by repping a heavy. But if five of your blue dots spawn on a logi's uplink near an empty objective and take it, the force of of the team is projected over more of the battlefield. |
Billi Gene
The Southern Legion
233
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Posted - 2013.08.11 13:53:00 -
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I demand you all play according to how i view the game and its mechanics.
is all i have seen so far :P
Dedicated logi, with many many different fits for different occasions.
And i don't need a squad, to fulfil my Team Role.
Not colourblind of everything outside of teal, I rep and resupply and revive democratically. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion
313
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Posted - 2013.08.11 13:56:00 -
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Do we need a reason? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1151
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Posted - 2013.08.11 13:57:00 -
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Billi Gene wrote:I demand you all play according to how i view the game and its mechanics.
is all i have seen so far :P
Dedicated logi, with many many different fits for different occasions.
And i don't need a squad, to fulfil my Team Role.
Not colourblind of everything outside of teal, I rep and resupply and revive democratically. I'm and ******* I never denied that. Also screw that democracy that Gallentean talk and there is nothing I hate more than Gallenteans. |
Epicsting pro
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
121
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:12:00 -
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If they dead there no need to logi ;) jk I do both. |
Billi Gene
The Southern Legion
234
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:16:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Billi Gene wrote:I demand you all play according to how i view the game and its mechanics.
is all i have seen so far :P
Dedicated logi, with many many different fits for different occasions.
And i don't need a squad, to fulfil my Team Role.
Not colourblind of everything outside of teal, I rep and resupply and revive democratically. I'm and ******* I never denied that. Also screw that democracy that Gallentean talk and there is nothing I hate more than Gallenteans.
your reasoned analysis based upon solid scientific principles, observable behavioral patterns and data collation trumps my need to role play ... you win you win. |
Skihids
Bullet Cluster
1855
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:19:00 -
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I find myself chasing hurt blue dots with my rep tool only for them to break contact as they turn a corner to rush a pile of reds.
Likewise I see flashing requests for a revive in the middle of a sea of red.
If you want medic support, think about it BEFORE you get yourself killed!
I've replaced the needle on my most active fit with uplinks because it wasn't seeing enough opportunity for use. Either fools would die in hot zones all alone or bleed out before I could arrive. |
Epicsting pro
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
121
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:24:00 -
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I can tank the shot while I pick you up but if you don't get out of the way your going down again, man I love having 469hp and heal at 20hp/sec that how you tank your logi suit. Also is it just me or should the logi also be av. |
Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
73
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:46:00 -
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Uplink's, Nano's and Prox mines are generally what I carry. If I run my proto suit I'll have the needle. But I view keeping you spawning safe with plenty of ammo and not worrying about LAV's as doing more than my fair share. |
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
75
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Posted - 2013.08.11 15:06:00 -
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Don't hate the logi for not reviving you, not all logis are medics, some are demolitions, some are pilots/drivers, some snipe (like myself) others......they give you ammo. Logis are meant for the "technical" part of a squad/team, this doesn't necessarily mean reviving you every time you die. Yes sometimes a logi doesn't heal you even though he (or she) is right beside you. But have some faith!!!! The logis get shot at just as much as the frontline warriors do, so if you go down in a firefight, don't freak out because you weren't revived right away, wait a few seconds because the logi might be clearing out the reds so that he can revive you!!!!
That's my 2 cents |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
842
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Posted - 2013.08.11 15:11:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Billi Gene wrote:I demand you all play according to how i view the game and its mechanics.
is all i have seen so far :P
Dedicated logi, with many many different fits for different occasions.
And i don't need a squad, to fulfil my Team Role.
Not colourblind of everything outside of teal, I rep and resupply and revive democratically. I'm and ******* I never denied that. Also screw that democracy that Gallentean talk and there is nothing I hate more than Gallenteans.
Filthy Amaar! My gallente reps are no good for you? Fine!!
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Minmatar Citizen 3173120
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2013.08.11 15:32:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I get the whole Green comes first rule and that makes a lot of sense but when I see Logi's running around not.....well Logi-ing .... makes me wonder about that players capacity to understand the role on the battlefield they chose..... 1.If you care so much about the logi's you should become one. Since ALL you whiners got us nerfed, we decided to pack our injectors/repair tools in a lunch box. Mines buried in back yard! 2. since Im like 40 cpu short now, I have no room for that garbage anymore! 3. i feel NAKED without my proto gun and complex shields 4. You think im taking my NAKED proto into an infested area just to revive you? LMFAO! 5. Stop being a CHEAP AZZ and HIRE/PAY for a personal medic.....Just like I do! MONEY TALKS! Class dismissed!
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Minmatar Citizen 3173120
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2013.08.11 15:35:00 -
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OH forgot, the MAIN reason I stopped reviving! 6. 70% of the time, I get there, the guy cancels the call for help! WTF! Wanna WASTE my time? REVIVE YOURSELF! |
Azure-Winged Sprite
Better Hide R Die
0
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Posted - 2013.08.11 15:46:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:True Adamance wrote:I get the whole Green comes first rule and that makes a lot of sense but when I see Logi's running around not.....well Logi-ing .... makes me wonder about that players capacity to understand the role on the battlefield they chose..... Maybe I am getting shot at, maybe I just died with you? I don't always logi, but most of the time I do. I can't believe some of the **** I hear from people sometimes, as if I'm their own personal revive servant. If you die, apparently it is your fault first not mine ( i can sustain you a bit from instant death, but you made the engagement) if I can I will revive you , or I will fall over dead beside you. or even begin shooting at the enemy trying to save my own ass as I retreat.. Don't start bitching in coms logi not doing his job , or where the fk you at with the injector , or why didn't you keep me alive and similar statements. If I got you , be happy I saved you isk.. If I couldn't... don't blame me as the reason your dead or continuing to bleed out. OP , this is not really all directed at you. Sorry if it seems so, been several logi hate posts lately giving us bad names. We do not make you immortal, CCP does that by allowing you to respawn. You aren't my revive servant but when a logi literally runs over my body while I spamming the call for help button I kind of hope they might stop from their oh so busy schedule of ....well not logi-ing.... to do some.... well Logi-ing... The problem here is that the area may not be clear to rez someone. Unlike in MAG, where rezing is very quick and can be done from a few meters away and during a firefight (sometimes), you have to stand on top of someone in Dust and go through a several second animation. If there's an enemy around, chances are both of you will die.
You also cannot move the camera or see what's going on around you when downed in Dust (which needs fixing, IMO). Perhaps you're not seeing the group of enemies staring at you, waiting for a logi to come and start rezing you. Or the sniper trying to hit the logi as he comes over.
Maybe he's ignoring you because a squadmate went down ahead of you and he wants to get them first.
Yes, sometimes you have just bad logis around. But often, there are other reasons. |
Azure-Winged Sprite
Better Hide R Die
1
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Posted - 2013.08.11 15:50:00 -
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Minmatar Citizen 3173120 wrote:True Adamance wrote:I get the whole Green comes first rule and that makes a lot of sense but when I see Logi's running around not.....well Logi-ing .... makes me wonder about that players capacity to understand the role on the battlefield they chose..... 1.If you care so much about the logi's you should become one. Since ALL you whiners got us nerfed, we decided to pack our injectors/repair tools in a lunch box. Mines buried in back yard! 2. since Im like 40 cpu short now, I have no room for that garbage anymore! 3. i feel NAKED without my proto gun and complex shields 4. You think im taking my NAKED proto into an infested area just to revive you? LMFAO! 5. Stop being a CHEAP AZZ and HIRE/PAY for a personal medic.....Just like I do! MONEY TALKS! Class dismissed! Minmatar Citizen using Caldari equipment, not Minmatar...perhaps a name-change is needed...
Face it, you were an Assault Logi, not a real Logi. I can tank just fine in my Gallente logi as I rez people, and do plenty of damage when I'm not dropping Hives or Uplinks for the team. |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
388
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Posted - 2013.08.11 15:55:00 -
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logi = equipment user.
what equipment they use is up to them
and yes assault > logi assault its just that so many people speced into caldari logi that they are still using it as an assault even though the assault is better for it now. they dont magically have 2.5mil sp sitting around to grab the actual assault suit yet. |
Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster
98
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Posted - 2013.08.11 15:56:00 -
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Minmatar Citizen 3173120 wrote:True Adamance wrote:I get the whole Green comes first rule and that makes a lot of sense but when I see Logi's running around not.....well Logi-ing .... makes me wonder about that players capacity to understand the role on the battlefield they chose..... 1.If you care so much about the logi's you should become one. Since ALL you whiners got us nerfed, we decided to pack our injectors/repair tools in a lunch box. Mines buried in back yard! 2. since Im like 40 cpu short now, I have no room for that garbage anymore! 3. i feel NAKED without my proto gun and complex shields 4. You think im taking my NAKED proto into an infested area just to revive you? LMFAO! 5. Stop being a CHEAP AZZ and HIRE/PAY for a personal medic.....Just like I do! MONEY TALKS! Class dismissed!
1. It's a good thing someone raises these kind of questions and I'm assuming you are talking about the CaLogi murder suit? If so, lololol :DD and I'm assuming that calogis still has more cpu/pg than the Amarr one.
2. That must suck, I couldn't possibly imagine what you are going through, oh wait lol yes I can, Amarr logi suit :D
3. You are a logi, you need that gun mostly for self defense, if you want to be more aggressive you should have specced into the Amarr logi and what is up with this silly proto modules, use enhanced extenders and get better equipment
4. No, I expect you to flee the scene.
5. No need to pay for a personal medic if you play smart.
6. Most likely he bleeds out, that's what happens to me. |
MoonEagle A
ShootBreakStab
32
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Posted - 2013.08.11 15:56:00 -
[39] - Quote
You have never met me obviously. |
Idye Lotz
xCosmic Voidx The Superpowers
52
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Posted - 2013.08.11 16:20:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Man, I haven't been picked up by a guy in a Logi suit in a while. I mostly get picked up by guys in Assault suits who have injectors. I know when I was playing logi I would run to every needle I saw only for them to bleed out or respawn a second before I could revive them it got to the point that I ignore them unless they are in my squad. |
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Cosgar
ParagonX
4101
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Posted - 2013.08.11 16:24:00 -
[41] - Quote
Piercing Serenity wrote:
In my eyes, Logi and Medic are not equal. The "Logistics" role focus on being a force multiplier on different parts of the battlefield. Maybe you lay proxy mines and REs to protect a letter. Maybe you reinforce the front line with nanohives and repair tools. Maybe you shape the flow of the battlefield with preemptive Uplinks. All of those 'builds' fall under the logistics description, and none of them require the player to abandon all of their gear to do it. If anything, it might require very high powered gear to set up your proxy mines.
The "Medic" role can be filled by anyone with a Nanite injector, Rep tool, or Triage nanohives. It just so happens that the "Medic" is a role that is shared by all suits (excluding heavies) and is another build under the logistic umbrella. But you shouldn't expect a logi player to use their suit in a particular way any more than I should expect you to run an nanite injector on your assault build or a rep tool on your scout.
TL:DR: Logistics is the Umbrella that the "Medic" role falls under. But anyone can be a medic. If you wanna see more of them, just do it.
Couldn't say it any better +1
I've been saying this since the start of Uprising: We need a separate medic suit for a medic role and keep logistics as logistics. We'll be getting more and more gadgets to play with eventuallyGäó and the last thing we need is for them to be pointless to a logi suit limited to bonuses related to stuff like repair tools and nanohives. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1161
|
Posted - 2013.08.11 23:11:00 -
[42] - Quote
Billi Gene wrote:True Adamance wrote:Billi Gene wrote:I demand you all play according to how i view the game and its mechanics.
is all i have seen so far :P
Dedicated logi, with many many different fits for different occasions.
And i don't need a squad, to fulfil my Team Role.
Not colourblind of everything outside of teal, I rep and resupply and revive democratically. I'm and ******* I never denied that. Also screw that democracy that Gallentean talk and there is nothing I hate more than Gallenteans. your reasoned analysis based upon solid scientific principles, observable behavioral patterns and data collation trumps my need to role play ... you win you win. Your logic cannot constrain me! |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1161
|
Posted - 2013.08.11 23:12:00 -
[43] - Quote
Henchmen21 wrote:Uplink's, Nano's and Prox mines are generally what I carry. If I run my proto suit I'll have the needle. But I view keeping you spawning safe with plenty of ammo and not worrying about LAV's as doing more than my fair share. Interesting choices right there |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1161
|
Posted - 2013.08.11 23:13:00 -
[44] - Quote
Fire of Prometheus wrote:Don't hate the logi for not reviving you, not all logis are medics, some are demolitions, some are pilots/drivers, some snipe (like myself) others......they give you ammo. Logis are meant for the "technical" part of a squad/team, this doesn't necessarily mean reviving you every time you die. Yes sometimes a logi doesn't heal you even though he (or she) is right beside you. But have some faith!!!! The logis get shot at just as much as the frontline warriors do, so if you go down in a firefight, don't freak out because you weren't revived right away, wait a few seconds because the logi might be clearing out the reds so that he can revive you!!!!
That's my 2 cents Sniiping Logi's are worse than useless on the battlefield your skills would be much better put to use on the front lines. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2928
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Posted - 2013.08.11 23:22:00 -
[45] - Quote
I already said this in another thread- we'll start doing our jobs when supporting you is less dangerous. If I use a repair tool or nanite injector, I have to follow you to all the stupid places you've decided to run, like-
In the middle of the street during a firefight Directly in front of a MD or laser perch In a clearing with 4 snipers on the hills around it Everywhere but in cover |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
989
|
Posted - 2013.08.11 23:26:00 -
[46] - Quote
Aside from the rare helpful armor repair, logis reviving is about the best way to troll and **** off players. Logis are best used for their hives and uplinks right now, which is what the logi assaults are providing. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1162
|
Posted - 2013.08.11 23:27:00 -
[47] - Quote
Knightshade Belladonna wrote:True Adamance wrote:Billi Gene wrote:I demand you all play according to how i view the game and its mechanics.
is all i have seen so far :P
Dedicated logi, with many many different fits for different occasions.
And i don't need a squad, to fulfil my Team Role.
Not colourblind of everything outside of teal, I rep and resupply and revive democratically. I'm and ******* I never denied that. Also screw that democracy that Gallentean talk and there is nothing I hate more than Gallenteans. Filthy Amaar! My gallente reps are no good for you? Fine!! Well I mean I don't want to get all those Gallentean STD's in my sweet innocent STD suit.....uh.....
But serious Gallenteans= horrible horrible diseases
I want no sweet logi love from them. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1602
|
Posted - 2013.08.11 23:33:00 -
[48] - Quote
I think people need to get over the fact that logis have some sort of "job" that they must perform. People will play how they want to, and their choice of suit shouldn't force them to play how you want them to.
I run a Cal Logi, in pubs I use proto nanohives, proto injector, and BDR8 rep tool. I'll try to needle or rep when the situation allows for it, as I never turn down easy WPs but it is NOT my job to trail you around with a rep tool or stop everything I'm doing the moment I see an injector icon on the tac net.
My job, first and foremost, is to kill the reds around me, and once the reds are gone I'll do any logi work that needs done. But until CCP nerfs my ability to kill other players so far that I simply cannot do it anymore, that's what I'm going to focus on doing.
People need to get over themselves that other players should be catering to their every needs. |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
347
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Posted - 2013.08.11 23:35:00 -
[49] - Quote
Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Maybe I am getting shot at, maybe I just died with you?
I don't always logi, but most of the time I do. I can't believe some of the **** I hear from people sometimes, as if I'm their own personal revive servant. If you die, apparently it is your fault first not mine ( i can sustain you a bit from instant death, but you made the engagement) if I can I will revive you , or I will fall over dead beside you. or even begin shooting at the enemy trying to save my own ass as I retreat.. Don't start bitching in coms logi not doing his job , or where the fk you at with the injector , or why didn't you keep me alive and similar statements. If I got you , be happy I saved you isk.. If I couldn't... don't blame me as the reason your dead or continuing to bleed out.
OP , this is not really all directed at you. Sorry if it seems so, been several logi hate posts lately giving us bad names. We do not make you immortal, CCP does that by allowing you to respawn.
This!
I play Logi on an alt occasionally and will probably skill into a logi suit on this character eventually. You know what I have noticed:
1.) Players don't wait for you to catch up to their mad run and gun game, to allow you to provide proper support, force multiplication, entrenchment etc....
2.) Players expect you to run into a gunfight and revive them no matter what
3.) When you die in your super expensive fit with all that ADV/Pro gear.... no one fuckin' picks you up.
4.) Then they send you hate-mail.
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Medical Crash
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415
62
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Posted - 2013.08.11 23:36:00 -
[50] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:I get the whole Green comes first rule and that makes a lot of sense but when I see Logi's running around not.....well Logi-ing .... makes me wonder about that players capacity to understand the role on the battlefield they chose..... Every time I'm in pubs I'm not provided cover. Also, some of you die in really ******** spots. Do you expect me to revive someone in the middle of the open with heavy fire? |
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Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
390
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Posted - 2013.08.12 00:01:00 -
[51] - Quote
logi /= medic
logi = dude who uses equipment
seriously, all the hate makes me think everyone would rather they wernt aloud to carry guns |
THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD
141
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Posted - 2013.08.12 00:26:00 -
[52] - Quote
My steps I perform when I logi:
- If I see an enemy into armor I mass drive him
- Pick up dead greens
- Rep green Gallente/Ammar
- Rep blue Gallente/Ammar
- Pick up dead blues
- Rep green everything else
- Rep blue everything else
- Drop hives/uplinks
- Kill ****
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1163
|
Posted - 2013.08.12 00:29:00 -
[53] - Quote
THUNDERGROOVE wrote:My steps I perform when I logi:
- If I see an enemy into armor I mass drive him
- Pick up dead greens
- Rep green Gallente/Ammar
- Rep blue Gallente/Ammar
- Pick up dead blues
- Rep green everything else
- Rep blue everything else
- Drop hives/uplinks
- Kill ****
I like this one as well especially the bits where you prioritise armour tankers. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1163
|
Posted - 2013.08.12 00:30:00 -
[54] - Quote
Chances Ghost wrote:logi /= medic
logi = dude who uses equipment
seriously, all the hate makes me think everyone would rather they wernt aloud to carry guns I figure guys like you would still troll me with remote explosives. |
Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
411
|
Posted - 2013.08.12 01:02:00 -
[55] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:I get the whole Green comes first rule and that makes a lot of sense but when I see Logi's running around not.....well Logi-ing .... makes me wonder about that players capacity to understand the role on the battlefield they chose.....
You probably just don't see logis doing there jobs you can't always see everything on the battlefield. If you see me in game you'll see that I'm a dedicated logi. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
4102
|
Posted - 2013.08.12 01:11:00 -
[56] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:logi /= medic
logi = dude who uses equipment
seriously, all the hate makes me think everyone would rather they wernt aloud to carry guns I figure guys like you would still troll me with remote explosives. It's equipment, logis use equipment, so that's a logi doing their job. You seem to be dead set on a logi's equipment slots being filled with a repper, nanohives, and an injector while following people around with a repair tool. That's not always the case depending on someone's play style. For example, I use a speedy hacker fitting with the Minmatar suit and run around the map laying out REs/Mines, uplinks, and triage hives while using the active scanner to scout the area. Does this count as a logi doing their job in your eyes? |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
391
|
Posted - 2013.08.12 01:12:00 -
[57] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:logi /= medic
logi = dude who uses equipment
seriously, all the hate makes me think everyone would rather they wernt aloud to carry guns I figure guys like you would still troll me with remote explosives.
i do and i would |
DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo
1831
|
Posted - 2013.08.12 01:16:00 -
[58] - Quote
Billi Gene wrote:I demand you all play according to how i view the game and its mechanics.
is all i have seen so far :P
Dedicated logi, with many many different fits for different occasions.
And i don't need a squad, to fulfil my Team Role.
Not colourblind of everything outside of teal, I rep and resupply and revive democratically. So you make everybody vote and argue their point? |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1566
|
Posted - 2013.08.12 01:24:00 -
[59] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:I get the whole Green comes first rule and that makes a lot of sense but when I see Logi's running around not.....well Logi-ing .... makes me wonder about that players capacity to understand the role on the battlefield they chose.....
Maybe if there were actual roles to be played in this game, Logis would be more inclined to perform a support role.
CCP should look to Eve and the capabilities of Logi ships to see what I mean.
Currently, in Dust, there's really only one role - Slayer. Everything else is just slayer with a little salt. I guess less people like salt than you would like. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
84
|
Posted - 2013.08.12 01:48:00 -
[60] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Don't hate the logi for not reviving you, not all logis are medics, some are demolitions, some are pilots/drivers, some snipe (like myself) others......they give you ammo. Logis are meant for the "technical" part of a squad/team, this doesn't necessarily mean reviving you every time you die. Yes sometimes a logi doesn't heal you even though he (or she) is right beside you. But have some faith!!!! The logis get shot at just as much as the frontline warriors do, so if you go down in a firefight, don't freak out because you weren't revived right away, wait a few seconds because the logi might be clearing out the reds so that he can revive you!!!!
That's my 2 cents Sniiping Logi's are worse than useless on the battlefield your skills would be much better put to use on the front lines. Ummm no I'm overwatch so I'm Tossing down uplinks all over the map, plus I only snipe if my team can handle themselves. |
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dullrust
Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack
12
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Posted - 2013.08.12 02:47:00 -
[61] - Quote
Piercing Serenity wrote:True Adamance wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:I use the Amarr logi as an assault logi, as is it's intended purpose... Is that a problem? Hmmm that's a toughie since they were designed to use Side arms and... well they are amarrian... My anger is somewhat mitigated by my meeting a lovely logi who I saw on many occasions do his duty. This Logi was a true logi, not one of those assault bastards. Salute to the true Logi! In my eyes, Logi and Medic are not equal. The "Logistics" role focus on being a force multiplier on different parts of the battlefield. Maybe you lay proxy mines and REs to protect a letter. Maybe you reinforce the front line with nanohives and repair tools. Maybe you shape the flow of the battlefield with preemptive Uplinks. All of those 'builds' fall under the logistics description, and none of them require the player to abandon all of their gear to do it. If anything, it might require very high powered gear to set up your proxy mines. The "Medic" role can be filled by anyone with a Nanite injector, Rep tool, or Triage nanohives. It just so happens that the "Medic" is a role that is shared by all suits (excluding heavies) and is another build under the logistic umbrella. But you shouldn't expect a logi player to use their suit in a particular way any more than I should expect you to run an nanite injector on your assault build or a rep tool on your scout. TL:DR: Logistics is the Umbrella that the "Medic" role falls under. But anyone can be a medic. If you wanna see more of them, just do it.
^ yep that sums it up. I do better with an assault suit to pick you up. Generally faster, more HP, and a side arm. Of course I've got a medic logi but i also have a rep assault and manifest also.
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dustwaffle
Gravity Prone EoN.
309
|
Posted - 2013.08.12 03:51:00 -
[62] - Quote
Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: I'm assuming that calogis still has more cpu/pg than the Amarr one. Wrong. They never had more to start with, and now they have even less (20 at standard/28 ADV/40 Proto).
Misconceptions and misassumptions. Stay away. |
Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster
103
|
Posted - 2013.08.12 08:07:00 -
[63] - Quote
dustwaffle wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: I'm assuming that calogis still has more cpu/pg than the Amarr one. Wrong. They never had more to start with, and now they have even less (20 at standard/28 ADV/40 Proto). Misconceptions and misassumptions. Stay away.
there was a time when Amarr logi was the worst of the lot and had lower pg than it's assault brother so I'd imagine calogi being better of but if I am mistaken I apologize.
ps. Calogis had this coming and in my opinion it was not too harsh. What we need now is equipment fitting bonuses to all of the logi suits while getting penalties from offensive modules such as damage modifiers and maybe even guns. |
dustwaffle
Gravity Prone EoN.
310
|
Posted - 2013.08.12 08:14:00 -
[64] - Quote
Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:dustwaffle wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: I'm assuming that calogis still has more cpu/pg than the Amarr one. Wrong. They never had more to start with, and now they have even less (20 at standard/28 ADV/40 Proto). Misconceptions and misassumptions. Stay away. there was a time when Amarr logi was the worst of the lot and had lower pg than it's assault brother so I'd imagine calogi being better of but if I am mistaken I apologize. ps. Calogis had this coming and in my opinion it was not too harsh. What we need now is equipment fitting bonuses to all of the logi suits while getting penalties from offensive modules such as damage modifiers and maybe even guns. Not you specifically, but a lot of people seemed to have this misconception and were going "HAHA now you have to live with less CPU like all us other logis", when in fact everyone had the same amount of CPU. Also, other misconceptions such as "You still have more slots" (Not really, Gal/Min trade either a high or low for extra equipment slot while amarr get a sidearm instead).
The bonuses getting changed is reasonable. The CPU nerf just means you have to upgrade the CPU mod from basic->enhanced since you would need it if you were running ADV equipment and above anyway.
Fitting penalties push a suit into a locked role too much. Not making use of bonuses is understandable and common place, but if a suit received penalties just for trying to be fit differently, it places way too many artificial restrictions on a suit's capabilities. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1037
|
Posted - 2013.08.12 08:28:00 -
[65] - Quote
I don't always Logi
but when I do
you run the **** away from me. |
Sean Mcbride
XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S
18
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Posted - 2013.08.12 08:48:00 -
[66] - Quote
Sgt Kirk wrote:I don't always Logi
but when I do
you run the **** away from me.
This exactly like I said in another post I am running in a commando suit with a rep tool but seems every time I lock onto someone with the tool well they runn the frack off and guess what I loose lock and I either.....
1) Have to chase after you (which if you see the gold glow take a damn knee BEHIND COVER) ......To heal your Armour and more then likely die with you....and receive hate mail...
Most Logi's are running with a squad and have to keep the squad up when we do try and heal you and you run off guess what we have to take the heal from our squad mates.
I also play a full Heavy with HMG and understand what the Logi's job is and will always protect a logi over and assault as a heavy.
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1170
|
Posted - 2013.08.12 08:50:00 -
[67] - Quote
Sgt Kirk wrote:I don't always Logi
but when I do
you run the **** away from me. I don't run from you because you are a Logi, I run from you because you are in Synergy |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
94
|
Posted - 2013.08.12 08:58:00 -
[68] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:True Adamance wrote:I get the whole Green comes first rule and that makes a lot of sense but when I see Logi's running around not.....well Logi-ing .... makes me wonder about that players capacity to understand the role on the battlefield they chose..... Maybe I am getting shot at, maybe I just died with you? I don't always logi, but most of the time I do. I can't believe some of the **** I hear from people sometimes, as if I'm their own personal revive servant. If you die, apparently it is your fault first not mine ( i can sustain you a bit from instant death, but you made the engagement) if I can I will revive you , or I will fall over dead beside you. or even begin shooting at the enemy trying to save my own ass as I retreat.. Don't start bitching in coms logi not doing his job , or where the fk you at with the injector , or why didn't you keep me alive and similar statements. If I got you , be happy I saved you isk.. If I couldn't... don't blame me as the reason your dead or continuing to bleed out. OP , this is not really all directed at you. Sorry if it seems so, been several logi hate posts lately giving us bad names. We do not make you immortal, CCP does that by allowing you to respawn. You aren't my revive servant but when a logi literally runs over my body while I spamming the call for help button I kind of hope they might stop from their oh so busy schedule of ....well not logi-ing.... to do some.... well Logi-ing...
Well you can not really say if its a logi running by maybe its just someone with the medic starterkit (there is a needle inside) or just an assault that wants to get 60 points from time to time. The symbol does not mark logis but it does mark anyone with a needle...
I run Logi 60 to 70% percent but I have also specialized fittings that can not revive or resuply. These fittings are there to provide tactical advantages by providing uplinks and remote explosives.
One thing that makes reviving a hard job is limbo dance bug the delay on the revive is horribly and I often need to push circle like crazy just to put my needle in a fallen comrade. I cant say how often the poor fellas dies because of this stupid bug.
So you can see there some reasons why some Logis may pass by instead of reviving you.
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1170
|
Posted - 2013.08.12 09:02:00 -
[69] - Quote
Korvin Lomont wrote:True Adamance wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:True Adamance wrote:I get the whole Green comes first rule and that makes a lot of sense but when I see Logi's running around not.....well Logi-ing .... makes me wonder about that players capacity to understand the role on the battlefield they chose..... Maybe I am getting shot at, maybe I just died with you? I don't always logi, but most of the time I do. I can't believe some of the **** I hear from people sometimes, as if I'm their own personal revive servant. If you die, apparently it is your fault first not mine ( i can sustain you a bit from instant death, but you made the engagement) if I can I will revive you , or I will fall over dead beside you. or even begin shooting at the enemy trying to save my own ass as I retreat.. Don't start bitching in coms logi not doing his job , or where the fk you at with the injector , or why didn't you keep me alive and similar statements. If I got you , be happy I saved you isk.. If I couldn't... don't blame me as the reason your dead or continuing to bleed out. OP , this is not really all directed at you. Sorry if it seems so, been several logi hate posts lately giving us bad names. We do not make you immortal, CCP does that by allowing you to respawn. You aren't my revive servant but when a logi literally runs over my body while I spamming the call for help button I kind of hope they might stop from their oh so busy schedule of ....well not logi-ing.... to do some.... well Logi-ing... Well you can not really say if its a logi running by maybe its just someone with the medic starterkit (there is a needle inside) or just an assault that wants to get 60 points from time to time. The symbol does not mark logis but it does mark anyone with a needle... I run Logi 60 to 70% percent but I have also specialized fittings that can not revive or resuply. These fittings are there to provide tactical advantages by providing uplinks and remote explosives. One thing that makes reviving a hard job is limbo dance bug the delay on the revive is horribly and I often need to push circle like crazy just to put my needle in a fallen comrade. I cant say how often the poor fellas dies because of this stupid bug. So you can see there some reasons why some "Logis" may pass by instead of reviving you. I can tell.... you have this distinct property of being yellow. |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
609
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Posted - 2013.08.12 09:27:00 -
[70] - Quote
Maybe some of us Minmatars don't like being treated like we're supposed to be your slaves.
Oh wait. |
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dustwaffle
Gravity Prone EoN.
319
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Posted - 2013.08.12 09:28:00 -
[71] - Quote
Korvin Lomont wrote:One thing that makes reviving a hard job is limbo dance bug the delay on the revive is horribly and I often need to push circle like crazy just to put my needle in a fallen comrade. I cant say how often the poor fellas dies because of this stupid bug.
So you can see there some reasons why some "Logis" may pass by instead of reviving you. Actually, I haven't had too many problems sticking my needle into my mates since they fixed them.
HurHurHur pun intended. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1038
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Posted - 2013.08.12 09:35:00 -
[72] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I don't always Logi
but when I do
you run the **** away from me. I don't run from you because you are a Logi, I run from you because you are in Synergy lolz +1 |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1173
|
Posted - 2013.08.12 09:46:00 -
[73] - Quote
I-Shayz-I wrote:Maybe some of us Minmatars don't like being treated like we're supposed to be your slaves.
Oh wait. But you are my slaves. Just accepted it and join the Empire |
Mechoj Nomreps
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
89
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Posted - 2013.08.12 09:56:00 -
[74] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:I am a logistics and I run around shooting up the place with my squad, or team but never solo. Now you might think this is the Logissault gameplay but its not, whats going to keep you alive longer me helping you kill the enemy or sticking needles and a repair tool up your ass? When you die I pick you up but if you died because 3 people rushed you or because you pulled yourself into a hive of enemeis, you damn well know that I wont waste my time. Also when your armor is down and your running back into battle I will not follow you with a repair tool because I will not let you pull me into your suicide attempt, if my repair tool is out or if you see my bright yellow paintjob and you need a repair just stop moving and shoot me or melee me. People get mad when a logi suit isnt swallowing a ton of bullets just to revive you, people dont realise we have very low HP and pulling out of a bad situation is practically impossible, also a good logi will value his life over yours, because a dead logi is a bad logi. That's true and that's what Shy used to tell me. Still a Logi without a team is essentially useless too.
no he is not, he can be a mad bomber or go the where there is a cluster of blues and start logiing, at least that is what I do. |
Zero Notion
Red Star Jr. EoN.
183
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Posted - 2013.08.12 10:03:00 -
[75] - Quote
I just went 19/6, nearly 2900 WP. Killing, repping, uplinking and Nanoing. No squad.
I've asked people who I squad with what they would rather I carry, nanos or nanites?
Nanos.
Uplinks or Nanites?
Uplinks.
Most peeps don't worry about suit cost. Most situations are dangerous/silly to be nanite'd in.
I'm not a medic. I'm a pack horse with a shotgun, I carry the equipment you need and I kill the enemy while providing you that support. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
854
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Posted - 2013.08.12 11:45:00 -
[76] - Quote
dustwaffle wrote:Korvin Lomont wrote:One thing that makes reviving a hard job is limbo dance bug the delay on the revive is horribly and I often need to push circle like crazy just to put my needle in a fallen comrade. I cant say how often the poor fellas dies because of this stupid bug.
So you can see there some reasons why some "Logis" may pass by instead of reviving you. Actually, I haven't had too many problems sticking my needle into my mates since they fixed them. HurHurHur pun intended.
I never have any problems either... but that's because I refuse to use the auto needle.
I'm pretty handy with the equipment wheel, so I smoothly transition from weapon to needle, R1 flawless revive, quick transition to repair tool before merc is even on his feet, reps activated by time he is standing. Works awesome.
I think this delay only occurs with the auto revive using circle , I tried it once and felt .. I don't know.. not right |
Jakar Umbra
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
174
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Posted - 2013.08.12 11:50:00 -
[77] - Quote
As a proud LogiBro I resent that.
The problem is that everyone else has this perfect timer where they decide to bleed the instant I'm stabbing them with my injector. Or they don't wait while I try to clear out whoever shot them. Or they sprint away while I try to rep them. |
Zero Notion
Red Star Jr. EoN.
184
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Posted - 2013.08.12 11:55:00 -
[78] - Quote
Sometimes, I try to make a 'triage station'. I'l throw down a nano, have an uplink available close by and within good cover. If they need repping, they can come to the station and ammo-up/get healed. This doesn't work in every map well due to the lack of cover but it would be fun to somehow coordinate a mobile triage station with more logis. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
855
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Posted - 2013.08.12 11:59:00 -
[79] - Quote
Zero Notion wrote:Sometimes, I try to make a 'triage station'. I'l throw down a nano, have an uplink available close by and within good cover. If they need repping, they can come to the station and ammo-up/get healed. This doesn't work in every map well due to the lack of cover but it would be fun to somehow coordinate a mobile triage station with more logis.
I have tried this a couple times, it usually ended in me and another guy atleast flying in the air dead from a couple locus nades |
Zero Notion
Red Star Jr. EoN.
184
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Posted - 2013.08.12 12:02:00 -
[80] - Quote
There are a few good spots that you can get away with this for a time but it's never a good idea to stay stationary for too long. |
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Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
855
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Posted - 2013.08.12 12:04:00 -
[81] - Quote
Zero Notion wrote:There are a few good spots that you can get away with this for a time but it's never a good idea to stay stationary for too long.
yeh that was the case. with a couple logis and a few spots picked out though and moved around to each spot it might be fun and viable.. as long as we communicate with the team in knowing where they are.. but as usual we are wanted up thier ass not the other way around :\ |
Zero Notion
Red Star Jr. EoN.
184
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Posted - 2013.08.12 12:06:00 -
[82] - Quote
Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Zero Notion wrote:There are a few good spots that you can get away with this for a time but it's never a good idea to stay stationary for too long. yeh that was the case. with a couple logis and a few spots picked out though and moved around to each spot it might be fun and viable.. as long as we communicate with the team in knowing where they are.. but as usual we are wanted up thier ass not the other way around :\
Make them adapt. Use team channel. If they don't want it, that's their choice. Some might use it. Others won't. As long as it's potentially nearby and viable, it'll be useful. I found it to be most useful in domination. |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
468
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Posted - 2013.08.12 13:33:00 -
[83] - Quote
The only people I will take high risks for are in my corp. If you aren't willing to listen to me, or not die in idiotic ways, I will leave you there to die unless it is completely clear, or you are standing still for a rep (or just not sprinting). This is not out of any disrespect, but my suit costs a lot compared to comparable assault, and I won't waste my ISK helping people who can't learn to help themselves or stick with a group.
Logis are optimal when people are working together in a large group, otherwise the equipment is wasted. I guarantee you that if you run with a large group that includes a logi, you can get all the support you need. |
THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD
143
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Posted - 2013.08.12 19:03:00 -
[84] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:THUNDERGROOVE wrote:My steps I perform when I logi:
- If I see an enemy into armor I mass drive him
- Pick up dead greens
- Rep green Gallente/Ammar
- Rep blue Gallente/Ammar
- Pick up dead blues
- Rep green everything else
- Rep blue everything else
- Drop hives/uplinks
- Kill ****
I like this one as well especially the bits where you prioritise armour tankers. No reason to try mass drivering a Caldari when I'm hardly denting them.
All my suits are amour heavy, so I'm not discriminating
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Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
421
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Posted - 2013.08.12 19:40:00 -
[85] - Quote
How many people do you think went Caldari logi because they wanted to heal people? |
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