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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.08.11 12:30:00 -
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I get the whole Green comes first rule and that makes a lot of sense but when I see Logi's running around not.....well Logi-ing .... makes me wonder about that players capacity to understand the role on the battlefield they chose..... |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.08.11 12:58:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Logi Assault > Assault Assault That's not an excuse. That's just **** poor reasoning for exploiting game mechanics. Give Logi Suits medium slots and less high lows and they would do their damn jobs |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.08.11 13:02:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:True Adamance wrote:I get the whole Green comes first rule and that makes a lot of sense but when I see Logi's running around not.....well Logi-ing .... makes me wonder about that players capacity to understand the role on the battlefield they chose..... Maybe I am getting shot at, maybe I just died with you? I don't always logi, but most of the time I do. I can't believe some of the **** I hear from people sometimes, as if I'm their own personal revive servant. If you die, apparently it is your fault first not mine ( i can sustain you a bit from instant death, but you made the engagement) if I can I will revive you , or I will fall over dead beside you. or even begin shooting at the enemy trying to save my own ass as I retreat.. Don't start bitching in coms logi not doing his job , or where the fk you at with the injector , or why didn't you keep me alive and similar statements. If I got you , be happy I saved you isk.. If I couldn't... don't blame me as the reason your dead or continuing to bleed out. OP , this is not really all directed at you. Sorry if it seems so, been several logi hate posts lately giving us bad names. We do not make you immortal, CCP does that by allowing you to respawn.
You aren't my revive servant but when a logi literally runs over my body while I spamming the call for help button I kind of hope they might stop from their oh so busy schedule of ....well not logi-ing.... to do some.... well Logi-ing...
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.08.11 13:06:00 -
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Billi Gene wrote:True Adamance wrote:Rynoceros wrote:Logi Assault > Assault Assault That's not an excuse. That's just **** poor reasoning for exploiting game mechanics. Give Logi Suits medium slots and less high lows and they would do their damn jobs troll much? you cannot believe your own words with your understanding of the game mechanics ... or can you and do you? :P
What Im saying is I just don't understand why you would spec into a suit type only to divert it so badly from its intended purpose... |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.08.11 13:35:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:I use the Amarr logi as an assault logi, as is it's intended purpose... Is that a problem? Hmmm that's a toughie since they were designed to use Side arms and... well they are amarrian...
My anger is somewhat mitigated by my meeting a lovely logi who I saw on many occasions do his duty. This Logi was a true logi, not one of those assault bastards.
Salute to the true Logi! |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.08.11 13:39:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:I am a logistics and I run around shooting up the place with my squad, or team but never solo. Now you might think this is the Logissault gameplay but its not, whats going to keep you alive longer me helping you kill the enemy or sticking needles and a repair tool up your ass? When you die I pick you up but if you died because 3 people rushed you or because you pulled yourself into a hive of enemeis, you damn well know that I wont waste my time. Also when your armor is down and your running back into battle I will not follow you with a repair tool because I will not let you pull me into your suicide attempt, if my repair tool is out or if you see my bright yellow paintjob and you need a repair just stop moving and shoot me or melee me. People get mad when a logi suit isnt swallowing a ton of bullets just to revive you, people dont realise we have very low HP and pulling out of a bad situation is practically impossible, also a good logi will value his life over yours, because a dead logi is a bad logi. That's true and that's what Shy used to tell me. Still a Logi without a team is essentially useless too. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.08.11 13:44:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:True Adamance wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:I am a logistics and I run around shooting up the place with my squad, or team but never solo. Now you might think this is the Logissault gameplay but its not, whats going to keep you alive longer me helping you kill the enemy or sticking needles and a repair tool up your ass? When you die I pick you up but if you died because 3 people rushed you or because you pulled yourself into a hive of enemeis, you damn well know that I wont waste my time. Also when your armor is down and your running back into battle I will not follow you with a repair tool because I will not let you pull me into your suicide attempt, if my repair tool is out or if you see my bright yellow paintjob and you need a repair just stop moving and shoot me or melee me. People get mad when a logi suit isnt swallowing a ton of bullets just to revive you, people dont realise we have very low HP and pulling out of a bad situation is practically impossible, also a good logi will value his life over yours, because a dead logi is a bad logi. That's true and that's what Shy used to tell me. Still a Logi without a team is essentially useless too. Definately, a Logi suit running like a solo assault is a bad player, and a bad logi. And you armour tank too. You are just too good to be true. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.08.11 13:46:00 -
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Piercing Serenity wrote:True Adamance wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:I use the Amarr logi as an assault logi, as is it's intended purpose... Is that a problem? Hmmm that's a toughie since they were designed to use Side arms and... well they are amarrian... My anger is somewhat mitigated by my meeting a lovely logi who I saw on many occasions do his duty. This Logi was a true logi, not one of those assault bastards. Salute to the true Logi! In my eyes, Logi and Medic are not equal. The "Logistics" role focus on being a force multiplier on different parts of the battlefield. Maybe you lay proxy mines and REs to protect a letter. Maybe you reinforce the front line with nanohives and repair tools. Maybe you shape the flow of the battlefield with preemptive Uplinks. All of those 'builds' fall under the logistics description, and none of them require the player to abandon all of their gear to do it. If anything, it might require very high powered gear to set up your proxy mines. The "Medic" role can be filled by anyone with a Nanite injector, Rep tool, or Triage nanohives. It just so happens that the "Medic" is a role that is shared by all suits (excluding heavies) and is another build under the logistic umbrella. But you shouldn't expect a logi player to use their suit in a particular way any more than I should expect you to run an nanite injector on your assault build or a rep tool on your scout. TL:DR: Logistics is the Umbrella that the "Medic" role falls under. But anyone can be a medic. If you wanna see more of them, just do it. Force Multiplier to be sure.
Can't really remember the last time a logi multiplied my force though? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.08.11 13:57:00 -
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Billi Gene wrote:I demand you all play according to how i view the game and its mechanics.
is all i have seen so far :P
Dedicated logi, with many many different fits for different occasions.
And i don't need a squad, to fulfil my Team Role.
Not colourblind of everything outside of teal, I rep and resupply and revive democratically. I'm and ******* I never denied that. Also screw that democracy that Gallentean talk and there is nothing I hate more than Gallenteans. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.08.11 23:11:00 -
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Billi Gene wrote:True Adamance wrote:Billi Gene wrote:I demand you all play according to how i view the game and its mechanics.
is all i have seen so far :P
Dedicated logi, with many many different fits for different occasions.
And i don't need a squad, to fulfil my Team Role.
Not colourblind of everything outside of teal, I rep and resupply and revive democratically. I'm and ******* I never denied that. Also screw that democracy that Gallentean talk and there is nothing I hate more than Gallenteans. your reasoned analysis based upon solid scientific principles, observable behavioral patterns and data collation trumps my need to role play ... you win you win. Your logic cannot constrain me! |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.08.11 23:12:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:Uplink's, Nano's and Prox mines are generally what I carry. If I run my proto suit I'll have the needle. But I view keeping you spawning safe with plenty of ammo and not worrying about LAV's as doing more than my fair share. Interesting choices right there |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.08.11 23:13:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Don't hate the logi for not reviving you, not all logis are medics, some are demolitions, some are pilots/drivers, some snipe (like myself) others......they give you ammo. Logis are meant for the "technical" part of a squad/team, this doesn't necessarily mean reviving you every time you die. Yes sometimes a logi doesn't heal you even though he (or she) is right beside you. But have some faith!!!! The logis get shot at just as much as the frontline warriors do, so if you go down in a firefight, don't freak out because you weren't revived right away, wait a few seconds because the logi might be clearing out the reds so that he can revive you!!!!
That's my 2 cents Sniiping Logi's are worse than useless on the battlefield your skills would be much better put to use on the front lines. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.08.11 23:27:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:True Adamance wrote:Billi Gene wrote:I demand you all play according to how i view the game and its mechanics.
is all i have seen so far :P
Dedicated logi, with many many different fits for different occasions.
And i don't need a squad, to fulfil my Team Role.
Not colourblind of everything outside of teal, I rep and resupply and revive democratically. I'm and ******* I never denied that. Also screw that democracy that Gallentean talk and there is nothing I hate more than Gallenteans. Filthy Amaar! My gallente reps are no good for you? Fine!! Well I mean I don't want to get all those Gallentean STD's in my sweet innocent STD suit.....uh.....
But serious Gallenteans= horrible horrible diseases
I want no sweet logi love from them. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.08.12 00:29:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:My steps I perform when I logi:
- If I see an enemy into armor I mass drive him
- Pick up dead greens
- Rep green Gallente/Ammar
- Rep blue Gallente/Ammar
- Pick up dead blues
- Rep green everything else
- Rep blue everything else
- Drop hives/uplinks
- Kill ****
I like this one as well especially the bits where you prioritise armour tankers. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.08.12 00:30:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:logi /= medic
logi = dude who uses equipment
seriously, all the hate makes me think everyone would rather they wernt aloud to carry guns I figure guys like you would still troll me with remote explosives. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.08.12 08:50:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I don't always Logi
but when I do
you run the **** away from me. I don't run from you because you are a Logi, I run from you because you are in Synergy |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.08.12 09:02:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:True Adamance wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:True Adamance wrote:I get the whole Green comes first rule and that makes a lot of sense but when I see Logi's running around not.....well Logi-ing .... makes me wonder about that players capacity to understand the role on the battlefield they chose..... Maybe I am getting shot at, maybe I just died with you? I don't always logi, but most of the time I do. I can't believe some of the **** I hear from people sometimes, as if I'm their own personal revive servant. If you die, apparently it is your fault first not mine ( i can sustain you a bit from instant death, but you made the engagement) if I can I will revive you , or I will fall over dead beside you. or even begin shooting at the enemy trying to save my own ass as I retreat.. Don't start bitching in coms logi not doing his job , or where the fk you at with the injector , or why didn't you keep me alive and similar statements. If I got you , be happy I saved you isk.. If I couldn't... don't blame me as the reason your dead or continuing to bleed out. OP , this is not really all directed at you. Sorry if it seems so, been several logi hate posts lately giving us bad names. We do not make you immortal, CCP does that by allowing you to respawn. You aren't my revive servant but when a logi literally runs over my body while I spamming the call for help button I kind of hope they might stop from their oh so busy schedule of ....well not logi-ing.... to do some.... well Logi-ing... Well you can not really say if its a logi running by maybe its just someone with the medic starterkit (there is a needle inside) or just an assault that wants to get 60 points from time to time. The symbol does not mark logis but it does mark anyone with a needle... I run Logi 60 to 70% percent but I have also specialized fittings that can not revive or resuply. These fittings are there to provide tactical advantages by providing uplinks and remote explosives. One thing that makes reviving a hard job is limbo dance bug the delay on the revive is horribly and I often need to push circle like crazy just to put my needle in a fallen comrade. I cant say how often the poor fellas dies because of this stupid bug. So you can see there some reasons why some "Logis" may pass by instead of reviving you. I can tell.... you have this distinct property of being yellow. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.08.12 09:46:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Maybe some of us Minmatars don't like being treated like we're supposed to be your slaves.
Oh wait. But you are my slaves. Just accepted it and join the Empire |
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