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XiBravo
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Posted - 2013.08.10 10:30:00 -
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Just finished the grind to get complex regulators and other than being harder to fit, i have not noticed a difference. I think they need a performance increase across the board especially considering the value of other modules... |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.08.10 10:52:00 -
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Really....
Shield tanker needs more benefits?
No no you don't.
REAL MEN ARMOUR TANK
and EVEN TOUGHER MEN HULL TANK! |
Xi Vi
Ekipa Remontowo Budowlana
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Posted - 2013.08.10 10:56:00 -
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Man - Shield Regulators work just as intended!
Armor tanking needs some L O V E!
Regards!
Xi Vi |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.10 12:26:00 -
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Basic regulator: 10%
Enhanced regulator: 20%
Complex Regulator: 25%
The complex should really be 30%, or at least change the enhanced one to 15%.
When in combination with stacking penalty, it doesn't make any sense to use two complex ones for a 10% (not even) increase instead of two enhanced ones. |
XiBravo
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Posted - 2013.08.11 04:53:00 -
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Just because armor has a few less benefits doesn't meant a 600k sp sink should net you a 1/5 of a second bonus... |
XiBravo
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Posted - 2013.08.11 06:08:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Basic regulator: 10%
Enhanced regulator: 20%
Complex Regulator: 25%
Im thinking something like 15, 30, 45 |
DRDEEZE TWO POINTO
LEGIONCOMBATCREW
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Posted - 2013.08.11 08:43:00 -
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XiBravo wrote:Just because armor has a few less benefits doesn't mean a 600k sp sink should net you a 1/5 of a second bonus...
Cause my repair only does 6.25 and I saw many proto start regen right after they start running away or in middle of battle. |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
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Posted - 2013.08.11 09:02:00 -
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Shields start to Regen on Proto suits faster than on lower tier suits. |
XiBravo
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Posted - 2013.08.11 09:31:00 -
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DRDEEZE TWO POINTO wrote:XiBravo wrote:Just because armor has a few less benefits doesn't mean a 600k sp sink should net you a 1/5 of a second bonus... Cause my repair only does 6.25 and I saw many proto start regen right after they start running away or in middle of battle.
Scouts maybe...
Mobius Kaethis wrote:Shields start to Regen on Proto suits faster than on lower tier suits.
Not true... |
broonfondle majikthies
P.O.N.A.G.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.08.11 12:13:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Basic regulator: 10%
Enhanced regulator: 20%
Complex Regulator: 25%
The complex should really be 30%, or at least change the enhanced one to 15%.
When in combination with stacking penalty, it doesn't make any sense to use two complex ones for a 10% (not even) increase instead of two enhanced ones.
Your forgetting the efficiency bonuses |
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XiBravo
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Posted - 2013.08.11 12:19:00 -
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The level 5 bonus adds 2.5% to the COMPLEX module...
That's 15 hundredths of a second for most suits. |
XiBravo
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:50:00 -
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Threads get buried quick around here.
Noone else thinks the regulators could use some love? |
BL4CKST4R
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:52:00 -
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XiBravo wrote:Threads get buried quick around here.
Noone else thinks the regulators could use some love?
Not until armor is fixed :) |
XiBravo
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:55:00 -
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Im not suggesting fix it instead of... |
BL4CKST4R
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:58:00 -
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XiBravo wrote:Im not suggesting fix it instead of...
Personally I don't think there is anything wrong with them, they are sure hell of a lot better than armor repairers, specially when combined with shield rechargers. |
XiBravo
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Posted - 2013.08.11 22:07:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Personally I don't think there is anything wrong with them
Than you haven't looked at the math.
BL4CKST4R wrote:they are sure hell of a lot better than armor repairers
Disagreed
BL4CKST4R wrote:shield rechargers.
Replace extenders and are not worth it. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.08.11 22:14:00 -
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Quote:Than you haven't looked at the math.
Actually I have my brother is a Caldari logistics and I built his suit.
Wrong, with a couple of them you can get a repair of 20+ with only a 2 second delay.
Quote:Replace extenders and are not worth it.
Wrong, armor repairers replace a armor slot and they are necessary since we have no passive repair, you can always ignore them or you can use them and get repairs of up to 60+. |
XiBravo
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Posted - 2013.08.11 22:35:00 -
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6sec regen lvl 3 reg= 20% + 6% efficiency= 21.2 reduction or a little under 1.3 seconds
3 weeks / 600k SP later
6sec regen lvl 5 reg= 25% + 10% efficiency= 27.5 reduction or about 1.6 seconds
The armor rep works as long as needed the regulator works at most for 1 and a half seconds...
Again im not comparing this to armor at all anyway, im comparing its effectiveness to its cost, which flat out sux. |
Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
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Posted - 2013.08.12 00:02:00 -
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Armor is fine just stick with someone in your squad who has a repair tool wallah armor will go up 3x faster every time. |
zzZaXxx
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2013.08.12 00:08:00 -
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Complex should be 30% |
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XiBravo
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Posted - 2013.08.12 00:39:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:Complex should be 30%
I'd settle for that if the efficiency bonus was 5% per lvl. |
XiBravo
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Posted - 2013.08.12 07:34:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:
they are sure hell of a lot better than armor repairers
Another unbiased opinion |
XiBravo
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Posted - 2013.08.12 19:48:00 -
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Shield regulator lvl 3 -> 5 is 727,560 skill points that net most suits an additional .3 sec reduction. |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.08.12 19:59:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Really....
Shield tanker needs more benefits?
No no you don't.
REAL MEN ARMOUR TANK
and EVEN TOUGHER MEN HULL TANK!
Hull tanking is fukken stupid. Just no........ |
Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
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Posted - 2013.08.12 20:57:00 -
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I stack them so it's worthwhile for me to go proto... I can substitute my 3x enhanced for 2x complex and get the same recharge, or 3x complex for 1.85s regular delay or 5.57s after fluxing...
Still, I wouldn't say no to beefing up the percentage on complex. |
XiBravo
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Posted - 2013.08.13 00:29:00 -
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I only have 2 lows and one must be a CPU upgrade (even with lvl 5 electronics) so i don't have the stacking luxury.
You think they were balanced with stacking in mind?
If so thats why I mentioned the stacking penalty increase along with the bonus increase to account for that and not make them op.
As they are now.... A HUGE sp sink  |
SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.08.13 01:01:00 -
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DRDEEZE TWO POINTO wrote:
Cause my repair only does 6.25 and I saw many proto start regen right after they start running away or in middle of battle.
There's currently a bug where shield regen X seconds after they get hit first, instead of X seconds after they got hit last.
There's also a separate bug where dropping someone's shields from full to empty in one hit triggers the shield delay as well as the shield depleted delay, but that doesn't happen as often. |
XiBravo
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Posted - 2013.08.13 03:07:00 -
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Did not know about that. |
XiBravo
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Posted - 2013.08.13 12:03:00 -
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The meta level of the complex regulator is also only 4. |
XiBravo
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Posted - 2013.08.14 22:34:00 -
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Yet Another Unbiased Opinion |
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