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Your definately not Cat Merc he/she would never be a Caldari!

The assault rifle is not the most effective weapon in all situations.
It's just effecive.
Please tell me how well an AR user can fair against a shotgunner in CQC (when hit detection works).
Or a scrambler rifle using it's massive DPS to kill a person before overheating.
Or a MD who litteraly can't miss.


AR can still do some damage, but these weapons outdo it in their niche.
mm'kay.

So much of this is utterly wrong.

But, let me focus on your core idea. You're right the AR isn't the best in every situation, but it's like this: The AR is 90% good in 100% of the situations, whereas all the other weapons you mention are 100% good in 20% of the situations. The AR should be more like 70% good in 100% of the situations.

Except for the TAC AR, the standard is better in all situations than its specialized variants.

Honestly my main complaint with the AR is that it's boring.

LR and ScR can press range advantage against it. ScP can outdo it in short range firepower. MD can make use of cover or elevation to engage it with minimal direct exposure.

Shotgun is way too low on effective range to be an answer to the AR though. Too easily confronted out of it's niche. Not actually as reliable as the AR within it due to Houdini Bullets and the AR actually being decent at CQC itself.

Honestly my main complaint with the AR is that it's boring.

LR and ScR can press range advantage against it. ScP can outdo it in short range firepower. MD can make use of cover or elevation to engage it with minimal direct exposure.

Shotgun is way too low on effective range to be an answer to the AR though. Too easily confronted out of it's niche. Not actually as reliable as the AR within it due to Houdini Bullets and the AR actually being decent at CQC itself.

That's the point of the AR.
It can perform EVERYWHERE except for sniper range, but other weapons eclipse it in their niche.
4 weapons that are very general, the Gallente AR, The Amarr Scrambler Rifle, the Caldari Rail Rifle, and the Minmatar Combat Rifle.
They each will have their own downsides and upsides, but will all be able to perform at 90% of situations.
That will bring the variety you so crave.



I agree 100%.
But the standard doesn't need a nerf, the rest need a buff.
They aren't competitive against other weapons, that shows something.



That's because you view the AR as the standard.
What if you looked at the range of the Rail Rifle as the standard?
Then you see that it has lower range but higher DPS, as an example.
It's a matter of prespective.

And yes, the AR can perform at CQC, but nothing can beat a one shot kill like the shotgun can do when hit detection doesn't screw up.

Shotgun range is fine its just hit detection, since it fires many bullets each on suffers from the issues, but when they do work it is very powerful.

The assault rifle is not the most effective weapon in all situations.
It's just effecive.
Please tell me how well an AR user can fair against a shotgunner in CQC (when hit detection works).
Or a scrambler rifle using it's massive DPS to kill a person before overheating.
Or a MD who litteraly can't miss.


AR can still do some damage, but these weapons outdo it in their niche.
mm'kay.

wrong thread =)

So all of those weapons deserve a nerf for out thinking the AR?

So all of those weapons deserve a nerf for out thinking the AR?

That's the point of the AR.
It can perform EVERYWHERE except for sniper range, but other weapons eclipse it in their niche.
4 weapons that are very general, the Gallente AR, The Amarr Scrambler Rifle, the Caldari Rail Rifle, and the Minmatar Combat Rifle.
They each will have their own downsides and upsides, but will all be able to perform at 90% of situations.
That will bring the variety you so crave.

The assault rifle is not the most effective weapon in all situations.
It's just effecive.
Please tell me how well an AR user can fair against a shotgunner in CQC (when hit detection works).
Or a scrambler rifle using it's massive DPS to kill a person before overheating.
Or a MD who litteraly can't miss.


AR can still do some damage, but these weapons outdo it in their niche.
mm'kay.

Shotgun. When HD works. When.
ScR. How fast can you Spam R1? That is what determines the DPS for the Scram. And, if you don't kill what your shooting, your gun then decides its going on a Vacation, and you die before the OH finishes.
MD. The MD is actually a quite good gun as of current, and that is good.

I agree that the AR is not the Be all, End all Gun in another's Niche, provided the Gun works consistently.

I agree that the AR is a good all-round gun, But due to the Fact that other guns are broken, people, including myself believe it is slightly OP. Myself, I think that it needs a greater damage Falloff. Right now, it can do Pretty killer damage out to 60-75 meters.

I think that, myself, it should be still doing killer damage out until 55-60 meters. It should have the end of its "effective" Range (i.e. in terms of ingame mechanics) at 100 Meters, Keep its Absolute Range.

The most effective weapon is the brain controlling the thumbs behind the weapon.