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RKKR
The Southern Legion
298
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:19:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:RKKR wrote:I already mentioned that the testing was a good thing for the game, but if he feels the need to complain about getting killed in a game that is meant to be played while I'm pretty sure that Oceanic players have also asked to solve all these issues than ruin the game for them then yes we are allowed to call him out for it. That's how it is and for the record he made the decision to make the smartass remark to say that it were people from my corp implying I'm a douchebag too :-). (It's always possible those guys were new to the game, don't know how to switch servers and all they see is AFKing and testing things out.....)
I can also start a thread where I State to test dropship in American servers and go cry me a river everytime I get shotted down!
It's not the Oceanic players fault that CCP made an error by releasing this game too soon.
As a CPM you should present both parties and go to CCP and tell to make a test-server or go back to beta or something like that. CPM already knows why there isn't a test server yet. Read the AMA. First post https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=97190&find=unread
And the rest of my post? OK, no test servers....let's be creative....maybe another server that only specific people can enter or something like academy games but then for testers,..... |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6999
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:20:00 -
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RKKR wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:RKKR wrote:I already mentioned that the testing was a good thing for the game, but if he feels the need to complain about getting killed in a game that is meant to be played while I'm pretty sure that Oceanic players have also asked to solve all these issues than ruin the game for them then yes we are allowed to call him out for it. That's how it is and for the record he made the decision to make the smartass remark to say that it were people from my corp implying I'm a douchebag too :-). (It's always possible those guys were new to the game, don't know how to switch servers and all they see is AFKing and testing things out.....)
I can also start a thread where I State to test dropship in American servers and go cry me a river everytime I get shotted down!
It's not the Oceanic players fault that CCP made an error by releasing this game too soon.
As a CPM you should present both parties and go to CCP and tell to make a test-server or go back to beta or something like that. CPM already knows why there isn't a test server yet. Read the AMA. First post https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=97190&find=unread And the rest of my post? OK, no test servers....let's be creative....maybe another server that only specific people can enter or something like academy games but then for testers,.....
You didn't read or understood what you read and until consented battles come back in we're not going to see aeon be able to test in peace and unfortunately its not part of the roadmap. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion
298
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:23:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:RKKR wrote:I already mentioned that the testing was a good thing for the game, but if he feels the need to complain about getting killed in a game that is meant to be played while I'm pretty sure that Oceanic players have also asked to solve all these issues than ruin the game for them then yes we are allowed to call him out for it. That's how it is and for the record he made the decision to make the smartass remark to say that it were people from my corp implying I'm a douchebag too :-). (It's always possible those guys were new to the game, don't know how to switch servers and all they see is AFKing and testing things out.....)
I can also start a thread where I State to test dropship in American servers and go cry me a river everytime I get shotted down!
It's not the Oceanic players fault that CCP made an error by releasing this game too soon.
As a CPM you should present both parties and go to CCP and tell to make a test-server or go back to beta or something like that. What don't you understand about the fact that I was killed by a five man squad on my team who encircled my player model so that I couldn't move and then called in a ******* vehicle? There's a big difference between getting killed by an enemy team through outside interference and having a squad realize what you're doing and actually -go out of their way- to ensure that you can't perform what you're trying to accomplish. Let me get something straight - this was an Ambush match and we were -WELL- out of the normal combat zone on the border of the red line some 400m away from normal combat area. This wasn't something that just happened because we were too close to legitimate players who were playing legitimately.
What you don't undstand is that I'm not a mindreader and that there are players not happy with what people are doing in Oceanic games in a game that is supposed to be "released"...I say it is fair game. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
2376
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:24:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:RKKR wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:RKKR wrote:I already mentioned that the testing was a good thing for the game, but if he feels the need to complain about getting killed in a game that is meant to be played while I'm pretty sure that Oceanic players have also asked to solve all these issues than ruin the game for them then yes we are allowed to call him out for it. That's how it is and for the record he made the decision to make the smartass remark to say that it were people from my corp implying I'm a douchebag too :-). (It's always possible those guys were new to the game, don't know how to switch servers and all they see is AFKing and testing things out.....)
I can also start a thread where I State to test dropship in American servers and go cry me a river everytime I get shotted down!
It's not the Oceanic players fault that CCP made an error by releasing this game too soon.
As a CPM you should present both parties and go to CCP and tell to make a test-server or go back to beta or something like that. CPM already knows why there isn't a test server yet. Read the AMA. First post https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=97190&find=unread And the rest of my post? OK, no test servers....let's be creative....maybe another server that only specific people can enter or something like academy games but then for testers,..... You didn't read or understood what you read and until consented battles come back in we're not going to see aeon be able to test in peace and unfortunately its not part of the roadmap.
I'm not even worried about it - I know who to look for now.
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
2376
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:26:00 -
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RKKR wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:RKKR wrote:I already mentioned that the testing was a good thing for the game, but if he feels the need to complain about getting killed in a game that is meant to be played while I'm pretty sure that Oceanic players have also asked to solve all these issues than ruin the game for them then yes we are allowed to call him out for it. That's how it is and for the record he made the decision to make the smartass remark to say that it were people from my corp implying I'm a douchebag too :-). (It's always possible those guys were new to the game, don't know how to switch servers and all they see is AFKing and testing things out.....)
I can also start a thread where I State to test dropship in American servers and go cry me a river everytime I get shotted down!
It's not the Oceanic players fault that CCP made an error by releasing this game too soon.
As a CPM you should present both parties and go to CCP and tell to make a test-server or go back to beta or something like that. What don't you understand about the fact that I was killed by a five man squad on my team who encircled my player model so that I couldn't move and then called in a ******* vehicle? There's a big difference between getting killed by an enemy team through outside interference and having a squad realize what you're doing and actually -go out of their way- to ensure that you can't perform what you're trying to accomplish. Let me get something straight - this was an Ambush match and we were -WELL- out of the normal combat zone on the border of the red line some 400m away from normal combat area. This wasn't something that just happened because we were too close to legitimate players who were playing legitimately. What you don't undstand is that I'm not a mindreader and that there are players not happy with what people are doing in Oceanic games in a game that is supposed to be "released"...I say it is fair game.
Got'cha, and I'll consider it fair game when I think of some creative means to deal with it in the future - be that a multi-billion ISK bounty or hiring mercenaries. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion
298
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:28:00 -
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Oooooh I'm scared now...I'm sorry I called you out on your bullshit. |
Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance
283
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:35:00 -
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Regardless of which server you're on, it is still an "active" game, and not a test server. To think that everyone will just leave you be to do your own thing seems a little nieve (seriously, have you never played an online game before?).
The ONLY way you'll avoid this is if you can somehow manage to fill the match with only people who are in on the testing and who you can trust not to interfere. Good luck with that.
Otherswise, unless they introduce either a test server or private matches, you'll just have to test at your own risk. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
2376
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:36:00 -
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RKKR wrote:Oooooh I'm scared now...I'm sorry I called you out on your bullshit.
Atleast we'll get players on Oceanic then...where are you going to test then?
BTW: IWS just said CCP said it doesn't want you to test in peace yet...deal with it.
See, the best part is that with this post you just outed your corporation for what they are and the community will see that as such
Say hi to your public relations team for me! |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
2376
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:37:00 -
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Jaqen Morghalis wrote:Regardless of which server you're on, it is still an "active" game, and not a test server. To think that everyone will just leave you be to do your own thing seems a little nieve (seriously, have you never played an online game before?).
The ONLY way you'll avoid this is if you can somehow manage to fill the match with only people who are in on the testing and who you can trust not to interfere. Good luck with that.
Otherswise, unless they introduce either a test server or private matches, you'll just have to test at your own risk.
I don't expect it at all, but I do admire good sportsmanship. |
RAGING GIGGLES
Hostile Acquisition Inc The Superpowers
29
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:39:00 -
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Yeah, american servers are full pretty much 24/7, but the oceanic rooms are usually open, making it a great place to "test", but, Southern Legion, (an australian corp i believe) definitely has the right to protest your nuclear testing or whatever you are doing on their hometurf....... so to speak. |
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
2376
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:41:00 -
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RAGING GIGGLES wrote:Yeah, american servers are full pretty much 24/7, but the oceanic rooms are usually open, making it a great place to "test", but, Southern Legion, (an australian corp i believe) definitely has the right to protest your nuclear testing or whatever you are doing on their hometurf....... so to speak.
Best explanation I've gotten so far that wasn't just mindless trolling and "deal with it".
But, like I said in a previous post. I now know who to look for and who to avoid.
Had a really good joke but... Nah.... |
RKKR
The Southern Legion
298
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:46:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:RKKR wrote:Oooooh I'm scared now...I'm sorry I called you out on your bullshit.
Atleast we'll get players on Oceanic then...where are you going to test then?
BTW: IWS just said CCP said it doesn't want you to test in peace yet...deal with it. See, the best part is that with this post you just outed your corporation for what they are and the community will see that as such Say hi to your public relations team for me!
And how I'm a merc and I'm just an individual.
And how you try to hide your immature complaining about getting killed behind someone elses corporation, so I get kicked from my corp...then what?
And how CCP doesn't care about a specific playerbase. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
2376
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:46:00 -
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RKKR wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:RKKR wrote:Oooooh I'm scared now...I'm sorry I called you out on your bullshit.
Atleast we'll get players on Oceanic then...where are you going to test then?
BTW: IWS just said CCP said it doesn't want you to test in peace yet...deal with it. See, the best part is that with this post you just outed your corporation for what they are and the community will see that as such Say hi to your public relations team for me! And how I'm a merc and I'm just an individual. And how you try to hide your immature complaining about getting killed behind someone elses corporation, so I get kicked from my corp...then what? And how CCP doesn't care about a specific playerbase.
Deal with it. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion
298
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:47:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:RAGING GIGGLES wrote:Yeah, american servers are full pretty much 24/7, but the oceanic rooms are usually open, making it a great place to "test", but, Southern Legion, (an australian corp i believe) definitely has the right to protest your nuclear testing or whatever you are doing on their hometurf....... so to speak. Best explanation I've gotten so far that wasn't just mindless trolling and "deal with it". But, like I said in a previous post. I now know who to look for and who to avoid. Had a really good joke but... Nah....
Now it's a joke eh? |
RKKR
The Southern Legion
298
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:50:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:RKKR wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:RKKR wrote:Oooooh I'm scared now...I'm sorry I called you out on your bullshit.
Atleast we'll get players on Oceanic then...where are you going to test then?
BTW: IWS just said CCP said it doesn't want you to test in peace yet...deal with it. See, the best part is that with this post you just outed your corporation for what they are and the community will see that as such Say hi to your public relations team for me! And how I'm a merc and I'm just an individual. And how you try to hide your immature complaining about getting killed behind someone elses corporation, so I get kicked from my corp...then what? And how CCP doesn't care about a specific playerbase. Deal with it.
That's funny because that was the gist of my first post here before you started to imply I'm a douchebag
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RAGING GIGGLES
Hostile Acquisition Inc The Superpowers
30
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:50:00 -
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Does CCP not have their own guys that test for bugs and glitches? |
noob cavman
Unkn0wn Killers
18
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Posted - 2013.08.06 11:44:00 -
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RAGING GIGGLES wrote:Does CCP not have their own guys that test for bugs and glitches?
I give you the core flaylock, 24 round tac ar, chrome laser, sharpshooter skill, original cal log, isk hacked exo av, militia lav and llav....... they test soooooo well. |
RAGING GIGGLES
Hostile Acquisition Inc The Superpowers
30
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Posted - 2013.08.06 11:55:00 -
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True cavman, but there seems to be a lot of emotion invested in this topic when it seems to me this testing thing should be CCP's purview, not one of their paying (hopefully) customers lol. |
noob cavman
Unkn0wn Killers
18
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Posted - 2013.08.06 12:07:00 -
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Putting the team killing shinagens to one side ccp should have game testers for each patch and current game play. But with each online game you get a few gems like aeon who do a better job than the games development team. Its the matter of not being laxy and looking at dust without the rose tinted lenses that you get for pouring your heart into something (artist view point from spending a 100 hours on a piece then being horrified by what I did one year later ) |
RAGING GIGGLES
Hostile Acquisition Inc The Superpowers
30
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Posted - 2013.08.06 12:17:00 -
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CCP should probably recruit players like this to add to their closed Dust server. Every patch and new build like you said, just deputize the guys who seem to be more effective and dedicated to testing. Then the australians can get back to empty servers without fear of having the americans or europeans invade their digital homeland. The guys doing the testing get a great lil closed "lab" for their "tests". |
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martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
285
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Posted - 2013.08.06 12:55:00 -
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RAGING GIGGLES wrote:True cavman, but there seems to be a lot of emotion invested in this topic when it seems to me this testing thing should be CCP's purview, not one of their paying (hopefully) customers lol.
Testing is done by CCP, but it seems they are too small of a team/got too much on their hands.
Testing from the community is a great addition to providing feedback like Aeon is doing. Unfortunately, there is always some douches who prefer to kill team mates because they feel butthurt for loosing a game, or they are bored to play.
And then you come on the forum and there is those forum warrior who stick on a single word and try to crash down a post or prove you wrong.
And by the way, I don't know you RKKR, but from your post here, I would say Aeon was right on with is assumption.
I got to admit though, You wont see any good outcome from this topic Aeon, just keep going with your stuff in other games. |
sammus420
Goonfeet Top Men.
247
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Posted - 2013.08.06 13:13:00 -
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martinofski wrote: Testing is done by CCP, but it seems they are too small of a team/got too much on their hands.
The rest of your post is full of good points, but I have got to harp on this.
Everything we have seen out of CCP so far shows an EXTREME LACK of testing. Some of the simplest, most common bugs players have experienced since Uprising came out have been so blatant that had CCP even played 2 rounds in Dust before release, they would have caught them. Remember the map objectives that were hidden behind the redline? Or sidearms disappearing from your hands as you fire them? Or the stats on Contact Grenades all being set to the exact same thing? How about repair tools suddenly being broken this build? All of these things were instantly noticed by the player base because they were unavoidable in the course of normal play. Stuff like this shows that CCP does not do testing, and they don't look at the effects of the changes they make in game before releasing a build.
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RKKR
The Southern Legion
298
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Posted - 2013.08.06 16:00:00 -
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martinofski wrote:RAGING GIGGLES wrote:True cavman, but there seems to be a lot of emotion invested in this topic when it seems to me this testing thing should be CCP's purview, not one of their paying (hopefully) customers lol. Testing is done by CCP, but it seems they are too small of a team/got too much on their hands. Testing from the community is a great addition to providing feedback like Aeon is doing. Unfortunately, there is always some douches who prefer to kill team mates because they feel butthurt for loosing a game, or they are bored to play. And then you come on the forum and there is those forum warrior who stick on a single word and try to crash down a post or prove you wrong. And by the way, I don't know you RKKR, but from your post here, I would say Aeon was right on with is assumption. I got to admit though, You wont see any good outcome from this topic Aeon, just keep going with your stuff in other games.
Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions.
There is one reasons that testing is done on Oceanic ant not on the American servers and that is the activity.
They don't test on American server because they will get killed, but if it happens on Oceanic...ooh boy ooh boy...Oceanic players should obey to that rule of helping the test-crew out ...who is he to decide how Oceanic players have to play the game? + They already have to swallow all the AFKers too...offcourse they are going to kill anything on sight or who tries to ruin their experience. It's their way to say "Hey CCP this game is broken".
Instead of bringing a back-up team to protect them...he decides to complain and can't handle it that people say that is the reality of this game! To all you geezers who think I'm just some douchebag scrub or whatever....go ahead...there are other priorities than all this testing...don't give CCP more worktodo if they clearly fail to adjust other things which are also as old as a dinosaur.
The last thing this game needs is a player-based quality assurance team that thinks it can rule over the game. CCP should be aware of their mistakes so let them correct it themselves or they will never learn. if CCP wants us to test these basic things out then, they should go back to beta or foresee something so we can do it or personally come to this thread to say I can fuckoff (CPM already seem to have done this) on this game where everybody calls you a troll for disagreeing/pointing out something that hurts their ego. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
7003
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Posted - 2013.08.06 20:11:00 -
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Thing is though we don't have an ISD Bug Hunter division either. I also have a funny suspicion that even if they do make a test battle server like you suggested RKKR, you're justifications for screwing with a tester still applies there regardless.
And just wow RKKR just wow... I don't know what to say you're saying you want this game to fail and Oceania to remain the ghost town as it is? You seem driven towards that goal RKKR.
As for player based quality assurance name me one successful MMO that doesn't rely on people fishing and whining about the game being broken. |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
819
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Posted - 2013.08.06 20:36:00 -
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The thing here, RK, may I call you RK?
RK, the thing here is that by interfering with them, you are actually hurting yourself. Aeon is providing a service, much like the Egyptian Plover. An example I might also use that might strike closer to home is the Bluestreak Cleaner Wrasse.
These are symbiotic animals that clean the mouths of deadlier predators. They get a food chain pass due to the service they provide. Kind of one of those cool unwritten rules of nature.
So I assume you see where I am going with this? |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
2385
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Posted - 2013.08.06 21:45:00 -
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mollerz wrote:The thing here, RK, may I call you RK?
RK, the thing here is that by interfering with them, you are actually hurting yourself. Aeon is providing a service, much like the Egyptian Plover. An example I might also use that might strike closer to home is the Bluestreak Cleaner Wrasse.
These are symbiotic animals that clean the mouths of deadlier predators. They get a food chain pass due to the service they provide. Kind of one of those cool unwritten rules of nature.
So I assume you see where I am going with this?
Did I just get compared to a toothbrush or a fish?
Not sure if honored or insulted |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2704
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Posted - 2013.08.06 23:16:00 -
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TL;DR- Free kills on Oceanic servers |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2706
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Posted - 2013.08.06 23:46:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:This is like that show "Whale Wars" where the Japanese Whaling Fleet hides under the guise of being scientific research vessels.
Whale Wars is about a bunch of assholes going around in a boat raising the japanese unemployment rates. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
7020
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Posted - 2013.08.07 00:04:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:This is like that show "Whale Wars" where the Japanese Whaling Fleet hides under the guise of being scientific research vessels.
Whale Wars is about a bunch of assholes going around in a boat raising the japanese unemployment rates.
So if all the whale are gone would the situation be any different? There are some species of whale with less than 1000 members left and just the last year we just classified another one as functionally extinct.
Why if we had a 5 year world wide ban on fishing we'd be set for our generation on fish. Fishies need to start acting like farmers and allow the area to recover up a bit. |
Billi Gene
The Southern Legion
216
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Posted - 2013.08.07 00:18:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Billi Gene wrote:oceanic has been dubbed the afker server.....
we see people that only come to oceanic to afk, is there any reason why you couldnt test on the American server?
I don't see a reason, perhaps you could enlighten us?
also, make sure your corpies are told they will get kicked from your corp if they afk, and that afking on oceanic is a big no-no... then maybe people will respect what you are trying to do... at which point my question still remains... any reason why testing on the american server is an unreasonable expectation? :P Less players = less danger of interference. It is entirely unreasonable on American servers when you have 16 v 16 players as opposed to 4 v 4 when trying to test something that requires testing players be on both sides. Also, not sure why I should care about AFKing on Oceanic servers when the general response to testing on them is... well, this. It's largely the same response. You don't like what I'm doing, I don't like what you're doing. Agree to disagree.
the reason you should care is exactly what you are complaining about: there are no closed circuits in nature. What you do affects others, even if you dont wish to acknowledge it.
as mentioned by someone else, petition CCP for testing facilities, I'm sure we'd all like to see a place where you can roll a 10 million SP toon to test stuff out!!!
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