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Aeon Amadi wrote:

RKKR wrote:

I already mentioned that the testing was a good thing for the game, but if he feels the need to complain about getting killed in a game that is meant to be played while I'm pretty sure that Oceanic players have also asked to solve all these issues than ruin the game for them then yes we are allowed to call him out for it. That's how it is and for the record he made the decision to make the smartass remark to say that it were people from my corp implying I'm a douchebag too :-). (It's always possible those guys were new to the game, don't know how to switch servers and all they see is AFKing and testing things out.....)

I can also start a thread where I State to test dropship in American servers and go cry me a river everytime I get shotted down!

It's not the Oceanic players fault that CCP made an error by releasing this game too soon.

As a CPM you should present both parties and go to CCP and tell to make a test-server or go back to beta or something like that.

What don't you understand about the fact that I was killed by a five man squad on my team who encircled my player model so that I couldn't move and then called in a ******* vehicle?

There's a big difference between getting killed by an enemy team through outside interference and having a squad realize what you're doing and actually -go out of their way- to ensure that you can't perform what you're trying to accomplish.

Let me get something straight - this was an Ambush match and we were -WELL- out of the normal combat zone on the border of the red line some 400m away from normal combat area. This wasn't something that just happened because we were too close to legitimate players who were playing legitimately.


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RKKR The Southern Legion 296	Posted - 2013.08.06 08:19:00 - [1] - Quote Oceanic servers are the best option to test things out in a certain timezone, but it still stays a playing server and stuff like that will happen weter people are aware of your testing or not. You're better of for lobbying for a test-server (or atleast a other server option where no WP,... can be gained or something like that) to CCP/CPM after all the results you already have posted on this forums that definitly has helped this game. With that being said I think there is a chance you will only attract more douchebags with a post like this.
RKKR The Southern Legion 296	Posted - 2013.08.06 08:41:00 - [2] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: RKKR wrote: Oceanic servers are the best option to test things out in a certain timezone, but it still stays a playing server and stuff like that will happen weter people are aware of your testing or not. You're better of for lobbying for a test-server (or atleast a other server option where no WP,... can be gained or something like that) to CCP/CPM after all the results you already have posted on this forums that definitly has helped this game. With that being said I think there is a chance you will only attract more douchebags with a post like this. Was from your corporation so I can only imagine. I like your testing, but now you are just sounding butthurt. You are mad because you can't test on a server that is meant for playing a game in a "released" game? Imagine how the people feel that can only play decently on that server... It seems you need to vent your anger to CCP instead.
RKKR The Southern Legion 298	Posted - 2013.08.06 09:49:00 - [3] - Quote Now you're telling us there is LESS danger with less players? Admitting there is still danger and Yet you feel the need to complain you get killed by LESS danger?
RKKR The Southern Legion 298	Posted - 2013.08.06 09:54:00 - [4] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Please don't over harass the testing crews, they're investigating the weirdest things Dust 514 that majority of has been unintended behavior. Is the testing crew more important than the Oceanic-player base? There is no need to fingerpoint to these so called "anti-testers", point your fingers to CCP. Especially if you are in the CPM.
RKKR The Southern Legion 298	Posted - 2013.08.06 10:11:00 - [5] - Quote I already mentioned that the testing was a good thing for the game, but if he feels the need to complain about getting killed in a game that is meant to be played while I'm pretty sure that Oceanic players have also asked to solve all these issues than ruin the game for them then yes we are allowed to call him out for it. That's how it is and for the record he made the decision to make the smartass remark to say that it were people from my corp implying I'm a douchebag too :-). (It's always possible those guys were new to the game, don't know how to switch servers and all they see is AFKing and testing things out.....) I can also start a thread where I State to test dropship in American servers and go cry me a river everytime I get shotted down! It's not the Oceanic players fault that CCP made an error by releasing this game too soon. As a CPM you should present both parties and go to CCP and tell to make a test-server or go back to beta or something like that.
RKKR The Southern Legion 298	Posted - 2013.08.06 10:19:00 - [6] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: RKKR wrote: I already mentioned that the testing was a good thing for the game, but if he feels the need to complain about getting killed in a game that is meant to be played while I'm pretty sure that Oceanic players have also asked to solve all these issues than ruin the game for them then yes we are allowed to call him out for it. That's how it is and for the record he made the decision to make the smartass remark to say that it were people from my corp implying I'm a douchebag too :-). (It's always possible those guys were new to the game, don't know how to switch servers and all they see is AFKing and testing things out.....) I can also start a thread where I State to test dropship in American servers and go cry me a river everytime I get shotted down! It's not the Oceanic players fault that CCP made an error by releasing this game too soon. As a CPM you should present both parties and go to CCP and tell to make a test-server or go back to beta or something like that. CPM already knows why there isn't a test server yet. Read the AMA. First post https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=97190&find=unread And the rest of my post? OK, no test servers....let's be creative....maybe another server that only specific people can enter or something like academy games but then for testers,.....
RKKR The Southern Legion 298	Posted - 2013.08.06 10:23:00 - [7] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: RKKR wrote: I already mentioned that the testing was a good thing for the game, but if he feels the need to complain about getting killed in a game that is meant to be played while I'm pretty sure that Oceanic players have also asked to solve all these issues than ruin the game for them then yes we are allowed to call him out for it. That's how it is and for the record he made the decision to make the smartass remark to say that it were people from my corp implying I'm a douchebag too :-). (It's always possible those guys were new to the game, don't know how to switch servers and all they see is AFKing and testing things out.....) I can also start a thread where I State to test dropship in American servers and go cry me a river everytime I get shotted down! It's not the Oceanic players fault that CCP made an error by releasing this game too soon. As a CPM you should present both parties and go to CCP and tell to make a test-server or go back to beta or something like that. What don't you understand about the fact that I was killed by a five man squad on my team who encircled my player model so that I couldn't move and then called in a ******* vehicle? There's a big difference between getting killed by an enemy team through outside interference and having a squad realize what you're doing and actually -go out of their way- to ensure that you can't perform what you're trying to accomplish. Let me get something straight - this was an Ambush match and we were -WELL- out of the normal combat zone on the border of the red line some 400m away from normal combat area. This wasn't something that just happened because we were too close to legitimate players who were playing legitimately. What you don't undstand is that I'm not a mindreader and that there are players not happy with what people are doing in Oceanic games in a game that is supposed to be "released"...I say it is fair game.
RKKR The Southern Legion 298	Posted - 2013.08.06 10:28:00 - [8] - Quote Oooooh I'm scared now...I'm sorry I called you out on your bullshit.
RKKR The Southern Legion 298	Posted - 2013.08.06 10:46:00 - [9] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: RKKR wrote: Oooooh I'm scared now...I'm sorry I called you out on your bullshit. Atleast we'll get players on Oceanic then...where are you going to test then? BTW: IWS just said CCP said it doesn't want you to test in peace yet...deal with it. See, the best part is that with this post you just outed your corporation for what they are and the community will see that as such Say hi to your public relations team for me! And how I'm a merc and I'm just an individual. And how you try to hide your immature complaining about getting killed behind someone elses corporation, so I get kicked from my corp...then what? And how CCP doesn't care about a specific playerbase.
RKKR The Southern Legion 298	Posted - 2013.08.06 10:47:00 - [10] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: RAGING GIGGLES wrote: Yeah, american servers are full pretty much 24/7, but the oceanic rooms are usually open, making it a great place to "test", but, Southern Legion, (an australian corp i believe) definitely has the right to protest your nuclear testing or whatever you are doing on their hometurf....... so to speak. Best explanation I've gotten so far that wasn't just mindless trolling and "deal with it". But, like I said in a previous post. I now know who to look for and who to avoid. Had a really good joke but... Nah.... Now it's a joke eh?

RKKR The Southern Legion 298	Posted - 2013.08.06 10:50:00 - [11] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: RKKR wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: RKKR wrote: Oooooh I'm scared now...I'm sorry I called you out on your bullshit. Atleast we'll get players on Oceanic then...where are you going to test then? BTW: IWS just said CCP said it doesn't want you to test in peace yet...deal with it. See, the best part is that with this post you just outed your corporation for what they are and the community will see that as such Say hi to your public relations team for me! And how I'm a merc and I'm just an individual. And how you try to hide your immature complaining about getting killed behind someone elses corporation, so I get kicked from my corp...then what? And how CCP doesn't care about a specific playerbase. Deal with it. That's funny because that was the gist of my first post here before you started to imply I'm a douchebag
RKKR The Southern Legion 298	Posted - 2013.08.06 16:00:00 - [12] - Quote martinofski wrote: RAGING GIGGLES wrote: True cavman, but there seems to be a lot of emotion invested in this topic when it seems to me this testing thing should be CCP's purview, not one of their paying (hopefully) customers lol. Testing is done by CCP, but it seems they are too small of a team/got too much on their hands. Testing from the community is a great addition to providing feedback like Aeon is doing. Unfortunately, there is always some douches who prefer to kill team mates because they feel butthurt for loosing a game, or they are bored to play. And then you come on the forum and there is those forum warrior who stick on a single word and try to crash down a post or prove you wrong. And by the way, I don't know you RKKR, but from your post here, I would say Aeon was right on with is assumption. I got to admit though, You wont see any good outcome from this topic Aeon, just keep going with your stuff in other games. Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions. There is one reasons that testing is done on Oceanic ant not on the American servers and that is the activity. They don't test on American server because they will get killed, but if it happens on Oceanic...ooh boy ooh boy...Oceanic players should obey to that rule of helping the test-crew out ...who is he to decide how Oceanic players have to play the game? + They already have to swallow all the AFKers too...offcourse they are going to kill anything on sight or who tries to ruin their experience. It's their way to say "Hey CCP this game is broken". Instead of bringing a back-up team to protect them...he decides to complain and can't handle it that people say that is the reality of this game! To all you geezers who think I'm just some douchebag scrub or whatever....go ahead...there are other priorities than all this testing...don't give CCP more worktodo if they clearly fail to adjust other things which are also as old as a dinosaur. The last thing this game needs is a player-based quality assurance team that thinks it can rule over the game. CCP should be aware of their mistakes so let them correct it themselves or they will never learn. if CCP wants us to test these basic things out then, they should go back to beta or foresee something so we can do it or personally come to this thread to say I can fuckoff (CPM already seem to have done this) on this game where everybody calls you a troll for disagreeing/pointing out something that hurts their ego.
RKKR The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.08.07 09:07:00 - [13] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Thing is though we don't have an ISD Bug Hunter division either. I also have a funny suspicion that even if they do make a test battle server like you suggested RKKR, your justifications for screwing with a tester still applies there regardless. And just wow RKKR just wow... I don't know what to say you're saying you want this game to fail and Oceania to remain the ghost town as it is? You seem driven towards that goal RKKR. As for player based quality assurance name me one successful MMO that doesn't rely on people fishing and whining about the game being broken. The absolute bottom line RKKR though is players is what gives CCP work, No players no work. Period. Don't put words in my mouth if I want to see this game fail I shouldn't be playing it. Suspicions work the same way as assumptions. It's also clear on whose side you are on and just want to paint a bad image over me, so you still think it's OK for a player to dictate how others need to play the game in a game that promoted a FREE world? Or are you just going to keep responding to PARTS of my post that favor your standpoint? I also want to make one thing clear: I never interrupted a testing crew and I never plan to, this is all about the attitude of this thread... If you want to be a testing crew then you have to be aware that it comes with risk and there is a chance to get killed, aeon seems to be aware of that judging from his post where he states that there is less risk on Oceanic servers. If he gets killed? So what? Charge it to the game...take a protective team with you....don't cry on the forums, crybabies get called out all the time on these forum but for some reason there are different rules for aeon? Again where is the FREE WORLD part that New Eden is sooo know for? yet I can't call it fair game? There was nothing wrong with my first post, but aeon just couldn't help himself to make a nasty remark and he then continued to threaten with bounties and such things...well he claims I ruined our corps image (too bad he doesn't realise I'm an individual) but I guess it's the same for his image. He is just a bigmouthed crybaby that happends to help the game by testing it in this thread. you fanboys only want to see the latter part. PS IWS: how hard is it for CCP to make a new gamemode with friendly fire (only 12 players to prevent interupters) with both teams physically seperated,...? With the exception of my last post (I guess I tried to paint it to black/white) I tried to give a solution for the testing team, but I'm sorry I'm not in CPM and aware of everything, I guess I must be a troll! I hope you think twice before trying to paint a negative picture on someone next time.
RKKR The Southern Legion 302	Posted - 2013.08.07 09:34:00 - [14] - Quote Thanks for answering a PART of my post. If only 6 persons are allowed on one side (and the opposite team seperated due to map-design), it isn't that hard to find 6 people to test with you without interruption of players aware or not-aware of your testing activities? Anyway it's seems it's no use to suggest a creative solution but I could also ignore all the other parts of your post and say you're wrong.
RKKR The Southern Legion 303	Posted - 2013.08.07 09:42:00 - [15] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Yet somehow you still refuse to acknowledge that this wasn't just a coincidental killing it was an outright assault that even went so far as to commit to friendly fire. What do you -not- understand about that? Testing servers wouldn't fix that issue they'd just have a quaint area to commit to the griefing - imagine that for a second, a server where I know people will be that I could personally **** with. Free world though, right? I don't see how i refuse to acknowledge coincidental killing when I said: "...offcourse they are going to kill anything on sight or who tries to ruin their experience. It's their way to say "Hey CCP this game is broken"." Guess what? Complaining isn't going to help either. Grab a bunch of guys that would like to help along (Hell even I would help out if you ask nicely), try to sync together in a battle...there you go...it's a free world indeed. (You should stop doing that sarcastic thing because it's not working out for you I suggest you stick to testing stuff out).
RKKR The Southern Legion 303	Posted - 2013.08.07 09:46:00 - [16] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: RKKR wrote: Thanks for answering a PART of my post. If only 6 persons are allowed on one side (and the opposite team seperated due to map-design), it isn't that hard to find 6 people to test with you without interruption of players aware or not-aware of your testing activities? Anyway it's seems it's no use to suggest a creative solution but I could also ignore all the other parts of your post and say you're wrong. And why should six players have to be pried away from actually playing the game to ensure the safety of a test crew on a -TEST SERVER-? Dude, your idea is flawed and you're just throwing ideas out there without even thinking of the outside variables, that's why I'm only answering part of your post. That and the rest of your post consisted of calling me a cry-baby so I can only assume that you want me to respond to your trolling so you can get a rise. -Jazz hands and magical fackin fairy dust- It was a response to IWS. Isn't that what you do now? grab some people and not actually play the game to test things out? but then complain about getting killed while in such a game-mode you could do all the testing you want without getting disturbed? I call you a cry-baby because well...you are crying.
RKKR The Southern Legion 303	Posted - 2013.08.07 09:52:00 - [17] - Quote I wonder why you made this thread then? I guess we are done here.
RKKR The Southern Legion 303	Posted - 2013.08.07 10:01:00 - [18] - Quote Read this thread again and try to figure out how the Oceanic player base feels. Complaining isn't going to help. New Eden is a free world, bring a protective team. Done.
RKKR The Southern Legion 303	Posted - 2013.08.07 10:10:00 - [19] - Quote I thought you were done? Please call me a troll... I think you really need to read the thread again and then read that post again and show me where I said you were complaining about Oceanic player base. i'll be waiting.
RKKR The Southern Legion 307	Posted - 2013.08.09 09:23:00 - [20] - Quote mollerz wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: mollerz wrote: The thing here, RK, may I call you RK? RK, the thing here is that by interfering with them, you are actually hurting yourself. Aeon is providing a service, much like the Egyptian Plover. An example I might also use that might strike closer to home is the Bluestreak Cleaner Wrasse. These are symbiotic animals that clean the mouths of deadlier predators. They get a food chain pass due to the service they provide. Kind of one of those cool unwritten rules of nature. So I assume you see where I am going with this? Did I just get compared to a toothbrush or a fish? Not sure if honored or insulted I was just talking in terms he'd understand. Let me lower to that kind of communication. Just like humans need bacterias and the bacterias humans to survive. What happens if the numbers of bacteria get too high? The humans get sick. Our immunesystem/Antibiotica is there to kill them off, so we get healthy again. So I assume you see where I am going with this? God this was lame.