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Anita Hardone
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:46:00 -
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This being said. When will us DUST'ers get some actual influence over the EVE universe. I dont care about what gun is nerfd or buffed or what new item is becoming available.
So far, nothing has really changed in DUST. Just superficial things like items, graphics, and lighting... i dont care about those because i play a game for the experience. And right now there isnt much to enjoy in DUST.
Want to know why i started DUST in the first place? No? Well im gonna tell you anyways. Did the trial in EVE, and was blown up while flying the beginner frigate by some random jackoff who probably spent his whole life in EVE just to type "lol noob". At the time i thought nothing of it, you get infinite amounts of them and i wasnt carrying anything. But after more play time, i remembered that event and it wasnt because i lost a ship... it was the principle. Like, really you are going to blow me up after 45 minutes of just starting out and tell me im a noob as if there was some way i couldve beat you.
So instead of wasting two or three years paying a stupid subscription only to log in once every few weeks to que up skills. Id rather play a F2P that lets me control a huge ass cannon that can destroy any ship within its range... This is even fair play if you think about it. Dont want to die, pay the toll or gtf back where you came from.... and even if you pay i will probably kill you anyways cause im edgy like that.
This is also why majority of the EVE players dont like us. They are scared of the fact that one day we may actually be able to do something like this and dont like the thought of being blown up by someone using a remote controller.
Established EVE players have it easy. They dont really have to worry about anything, and most likely have enough isk to buy whatever ship they lost fully furnished 100 times over.... i want to take that luxury away. |
da GAND
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:49:00 -
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Along time from now, I wouldn't count on us doing anything awesome in EVE for a very very very long time. |
Zero Notion
Red Star Jr. EoN.
157
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:52:00 -
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They probably will have to tread very carefully to not disrupt the established game world of Eve any further than what they have done; at least, not in any broken sort of way, mechanically speaking. Not that it would be a bad thing, change is good. Dust really needs this, though, you're right. The game feels empty and less enjoyable.
I never thought I'd be playing an FPS where I am farming currency/points. |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
531
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:55:00 -
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I find it surprising that you presume to know much about Eve, or about how its players feel. Like you, they'll care about Dust once it starts affecting them.
CCP's strategy for Dust, from the beginning, was to make Dust viable as a stand alone game before linking it strongly to Eve. Fixing aiming, fixing performance, putting in basic Dust features is ongoing and necessary. This is their development solution to the chicken and egg problem. Their marketing department has a different strategy.
Also, I don't see what's so special about eve regarding your lost newbie ship scenario. Lots of games have places you can go and die if you're determined to go there and die. Like Eve, they also have big warning signs. |
Hasa Hakira
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
38
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:56:00 -
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HTFU . U were so butthurt in EVE that you got into a F2P just so u can one day destroy a ship in EVE
congrats to the lad that banged u in EVE , he really F u up |
Piercing Serenity
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
380
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:56:00 -
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Anita Hardone wrote:This being said. When will us DUST'ers get some actual influence over the EVE universe. I dont care about what gun is nerfd or buffed or what new item is becoming available.
So far, nothing has really changed in DUST. Just superficial things like items, graphics, and lighting... i dont care about those because i play a game for the experience. And right now there isnt much to enjoy in DUST.
Want to know why i started DUST in the first place? No? Well im gonna tell you anyways. Did the trial in EVE, and was blown up while flying the beginner frigate by some random jackoff who probably spent his whole life in EVE just to type "lol noob". At the time i thought nothing of it, you get infinite amounts of them and i wasnt carrying anything. But after more play time, i remembered that event and it wasnt because i lost a ship... it was the principle. Like, really you are going to blow me up after 45 minutes of just starting out and tell me im a noob as if there was some way i couldve beat you.
So instead of wasting two or three years paying a stupid subscription only to log in once every few weeks to que up skills. Id rather play a F2P that lets me control a huge ass cannon that can destroy any ship within its range... This is even fair play if you think about it. Dont want to die, pay the toll or gtf back where you came from.... and even if you pay i will probably kill you anyways cause im edgy like that.
This is also why majority of the EVE players dont like us. They are scared of the fact that one day we may actually be able to do something like this and dont like the thought of being blown up by someone using a remote controller.
Established EVE players have it easy. They dont really have to worry about anything, and most likely have enough isk to buy whatever ship they lost fully furnished 100 times over.... i want to take that luxury away.
Everything past the solid line is wrong besides for the fact that you want to take luxury away. I actually just finished reading this article about how ungodly expensive Supercaps - a certain type of ships - are. They are expensive to the point that no alliance has the money to replace a fleet of them. I also don't think EVE players don't like us because we might destroy them one day. They don't even care about us. For $15 a month, I wouldn't care what some people were doing on the planet below me. I have other... EVE stuff to do.
That all being said, reading a bit into some of the major events in EVE make me wish that DUST could have some role. One of the largest battles in EVE happened by accident, and the history of the game grows from it. DUST just doesn't have the capacity.
One day we might be able to strike the sky. That'll be fun... |
Anita Hardone
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
253
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:04:00 -
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^hrm, maybe i shouldve specified a ship. Like a Battleship or Cruiser. I seen more of those in low/null than any other. So just assume im talking about the biggest cost efficient ship. Not the most expensive.
LOL@ Hasa Tells me to htfu. Doesnt even have enough decency to use proper grammar and therefore appears 12 years old. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
846
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:09:00 -
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blowing up noobs that new in eve is an actual violation they punish iirc |
reydient
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
78
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:19:00 -
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1.) if you were crusing around space for 45 minutes and you got blown up- You were in the wrong neighbor hood my friend, noobs do not go to null or low sec. Seems to me like you need to change the settings on your auto pilot so that your not jumping into dangerous areas- 2.) nowhere is safe in EVE , not even high sec 3.) yes little ships tend to not be a match for big ship-- but if you watched the CCP tournament youll see that little ships ripped apat some very expensive big ships 4.) now you have a kill order- fleet up with some people and go take that A-O down buddy 5.) dust is not nearly large enough to strike the sky- even if we could- People in EVE would just avoid New EDEN unless there was some reason to go there- CCP is going to have to make New Eden a very profitable place to be- and to be honest there are places like JITA, HEK and BRUTOR TRIBE, that will always have a pull on the market and those places could effectively shut New eden down- a few thousand MERCS has nothing on the JITA market- 6.) If nobody told you - two weeks of skilling just barely qualifies you to leave undock- so yea your going to have to sit in station and skill- but thats your time to grind dust- 7.) BUY PLEX!!!!! its great seed money-
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DarkShadowFox
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
245
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:20:00 -
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your going to hate even more whenever they connect it... <___< if they connected it, if ever. Welcome economy influx of game killing funds. |
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BursegSardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
220
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:25:00 -
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I hope, someday soon, that CCP opens up the rest of lowsec for PC, and gives EVE players the ability to place attack/defense contracts on districts. This would allow mercs to act like mercs, fighting battles for ISK, not for land grab, and hell, you could take the contract 1 hour before the match technically starts if your corp is more rag-tag and not built for the current PC timer stuff.
This would require an expansion on the EVE end to facilitate this (hopefully including the sweet ass, incredibly useful and informative map that Dust has, which EVE is severely lacking), so I don't foresee it happening before Winter. But a boy can dream! |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
124
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:27:00 -
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Anita Hardone wrote: Want to know why i started DUST in the first place? No? Well im gonna tell you anyways. Did the trial in EVE, and was blown up while flying the beginner frigate by some random jackoff who probably spent his whole life in EVE just to type "lol noob". At the time i thought nothing of it, you get infinite amounts of them and i wasnt carrying anything. But after more play time, i remembered that event and it wasnt because i lost a ship... it was the principle. Like, really you are going to blow me up after 45 minutes of just starting out and tell me im a noob as if there was some way i couldve beat you.
So instead of wasting two or three years paying a stupid subscription only to log in once every few weeks to que up skills. Id rather play a F2P that lets me control a huge ass cannon that can destroy any ship within its range...
I get it now, all the forge guns running around shooting dropships with hate, are just eve noobs with post traumatic stress?
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Aisha Ctarl
The Generals EoN.
881
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:31:00 -
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Welcome to EVE - the only game with a learning cliff rather than a learning curve. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3507
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:32:00 -
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So you actually think that Eve players will get scared of a small planetary cannon that can take out one of their ships? I got news for you, buddy. They want that to happen and there are a lot more Eve players than you think that already care about DUST. Some of the DUST corps you see now even have Eve players in their ranks. So don't assume that Eve players don't care about DUST. Of course, some of them might not like the game but that doesn't mean the rest don't like it either.
By the way, it is considered customary that new players in Eve are initiated into the extremely hardened culture of New Eden. And by "initiated" I mean getting your ship blown up within 45 minutes by a veteran. It's our way of letting you know what kind of culture you are getting yourself into.
In DUST, expect the same thing in the future when you start getting initiated in a PC battle or in some future training room (CCP, hurry up with that already). Consider it a rite of passage. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
776
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:39:00 -
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I still have the text I would have sent had dust had a more direct contact with eve. and we were able to board or fire at their ships.
Upon destroying one, I would have sent this to pilot. "Stop being a nerd" |
Anita Hardone
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
255
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:52:00 -
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Some of you got me confused. DUST is easy, and is so stale its starting to grow mold. What is there to do but wait for the FOTM to get nerfd. CCP did say DUST will interact with EVE.... well, this is how i want to interact with them.... by blowing them up.
Also, i dont fly drop ships, nor do i drive tanks. They are boring and prone to explosions. |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
879
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Posted - 2013.08.05 16:17:00 -
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I dream on that day.... 20,000 aur or 20,000,000 isk to destroy one of that arrogant EvE pilots.. I'll pay 20,000 aur just for the satisfaction...will be the best cash i had ever spend in a F2P game. |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
124
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Posted - 2013.08.05 16:28:00 -
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PTS?
anyone?
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
530
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Posted - 2013.08.05 16:36:00 -
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Anita Hardone wrote:This being said. When will us DUST'ers get some actual influence over the EVE universe.
Never the whiny neckbeards would throw a hissy fit if consolers were able to on a free game knock down their years long built sandcastles. Lets face it even the nullsec queens are a bunch of carebears in this regard. |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
532
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Posted - 2013.08.05 16:48:00 -
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Anita Hardone wrote:This being said. When will us DUST'ers get some actual influence over the EVE universe. Never the whiny neckbeards would throw a hissy fit if consolers were able to on a free game knock down their years long built sandcastles. Lets face it even the nullsec queens are a bunch of carebears in this regard.
Dust mercs are not going to knock down sandcastles. Dust mercs will merely be a tool for Eve pilots to knock down sandcastles of other Eve pilots, which is what already happens. |
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
776
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Posted - 2013.08.05 16:52:00 -
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Oso Peresoso wrote:Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Anita Hardone wrote:This being said. When will us DUST'ers get some actual influence over the EVE universe. Never the whiny neckbeards would throw a hissy fit if consolers were able to on a free game knock down their years long built sandcastles. Lets face it even the nullsec queens are a bunch of carebears in this regard. Dust mercs are not going to knock down sandcastles. Dust mercs will merely be a tool for Eve pilots to knock down sandcastles of other Eve pilots, which is what already happens.
AND this is why that trailer, the one that shows dusters firing from the planet to eve ships WON'T HAPPEN.
And boarding eve ships to destroy them? can you imagine how the forums over on eve side would QQ. lol |
Minor Treat
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
27
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Posted - 2013.08.05 16:56:00 -
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Oso Peresoso wrote:I find it surprising that you presume to know much about Eve, or about how its players feel. Like you, they'll care about Dust once it starts affecting them.
CCP's strategy for Dust, from the beginning, was to make Dust viable as a stand alone game before linking it strongly to Eve. Fixing aiming, fixing performance, putting in basic Dust features is ongoing and necessary. This is their development solution to the chicken and egg problem. Their marketing department has a different strategy.
Also, I don't see what's so special about eve regarding your lost newbie ship scenario. Lots of games have places you can go and die if you're determined to go there and die. Like Eve, they also have big warning signs. Problem is there are games that directly compete with Dust 514 which will be coming out for Next Gen. These games are like Planetside 2 which is pretty freaking good and of course the highly anticipated Destiny. These games may not have PC player interaction why our interaction with PC players are really limited.. We do orbital strikes... okay yeah its cool but its charm wears off in a month. We can Cross platform Chat... Yeah its cool, but again for what?
We should Be holding Dust to a higher Standard. In Fact why is this game out of Beta when they are fixing these kinds of performance issues. Thats what a Beta is for. |
Namirial Kensai
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.08.05 17:31:00 -
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reydient wrote:4.) now you have a kill order- fleet up with some people and go take that A-O down buddy 5.) dust is not nearly large enough to strike the sky- even if we could- People in EVE would just avoid New EDEN unless there was some reason to go there- CCP is going to have to make New Eden a very profitable place to be- and to be honest there are places like JITA, HEK and BRUTOR TRIBE, that will always have a pull on the market and those places could effectively shut New eden down- a few thousand MERCS has nothing on the JITA market-
you DO realize New Eden is the entire star cluster right? like all of EVE? |
Anita Hardone
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
259
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Posted - 2013.08.05 17:51:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:Oso Peresoso wrote:Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Anita Hardone wrote:This being said. When will us DUST'ers get some actual influence over the EVE universe. Never the whiny neckbeards would throw a hissy fit if consolers were able to on a free game knock down their years long built sandcastles. Lets face it even the nullsec queens are a bunch of carebears in this regard. Dust mercs are not going to knock down sandcastles. Dust mercs will merely be a tool for Eve pilots to knock down sandcastles of other Eve pilots, which is what already happens. AND this is why that trailer, the one that shows dusters firing from the planet to eve ships WON'T HAPPEN. And boarding eve ships to destroy them? can you imagine how the forums over on eve side would QQ. lol
I have alot of empty buckets built to hold more than 5 gallons of water... i believe im ready.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3508
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Posted - 2013.08.05 17:53:00 -
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@reydient
Dude, I suggest you do your homework before posting. New Eden is the entire galaxy. No matter which system you are in, you are in New Eden. No matter which which of the two games you are playing, you are in New Eden. |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
534
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Posted - 2013.08.05 18:17:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:Oso Peresoso wrote: Dust mercs are not going to knock down sandcastles. Dust mercs will merely be a tool for Eve pilots to knock down sandcastles of other Eve pilots, which is what already happens.
AND this is why that trailer, the one that shows dusters firing from the planet to eve ships WON'T HAPPEN. And boarding eve ships to destroy them? can you imagine how the forums over on eve side would QQ. lol
Of course those things will happen, but only when Eve pilots are bombarding planets, placing them at risk, or when Dust mercs are directed to board something. Also, boarding ships probably won't happen, boarding stations and such, probably will happen. |
Namirial Kensai
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.08.06 04:03:00 -
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Oso Peresoso wrote:Surt gods end wrote:Oso Peresoso wrote: Dust mercs are not going to knock down sandcastles. Dust mercs will merely be a tool for Eve pilots to knock down sandcastles of other Eve pilots, which is what already happens.
AND this is why that trailer, the one that shows dusters firing from the planet to eve ships WON'T HAPPEN. And boarding eve ships to destroy them? can you imagine how the forums over on eve side would QQ. lol Of course those things will happen, but only when Eve pilots are bombarding planets, placing them at risk, or when Dust mercs are directed to board something. Also, boarding ships probably won't happen, boarding stations and such, probably will happen. mechanics or no, the rate at which ships die and how easily theya re replaced kinda makes boardng anything, even a titan, pointless |
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