DUST Search - All I want: just 3 minutes of your life [Quick Survey]

xxwhitedevilxx wrote:

So, I made a survey on the forums, in game (both mail and voice chat) and via psn mail (for the guys who left).The representative sample is made up by 188 (7 still playing dust actively) members of our old MAG clan, 87 (25 still playing dust actively) members of our new dust corp and 51 outsiders (from all over the world divided into 30 FPS gamers and 21 Eve Players) for a total of 326(everyone has at least tried dust514 for a minimum period of 5 days)
The questions were pretty simple:

- Are you still playing dust514?
- What do/did you like about dust514?
- What do/did you dislike about dust514?
- Do/did you have fun playing dust514?
- Do you think it should be totally reworked?
- If you're not playing dust514 anymore, would you give it a second chance if they totally rework it?*

The first question, the majority answered "No" (272/326)

The following two question were too heterogeneous and gave me inconclusive statistics.

The statistic for the fourth question is a little bit depressing: it's a "No" for 257**/326

Now, this was actually something i wanted to do for my corporation only, I decided to add the last two question because of my inquisitiveness; but here the things are getting hot lads.

Fifth question: the answer "Yes" has been stated 277/326.

Another interesting statistic is the one pertaining the last question: 228/326 "Yes".

Now, the entire point of this informative thread: the differences between player base.
On the first question Eve players answered with a yes 21 / 21
On the second question Eve players answered with a yes 19 / 2
On the fifth question Eve players answered with a no 21 / 1
On the last question Eve players answered with a no 15 / 6

I'm not going to post full details (I'm too lazy and here in Italy it's too late, sorry) but there's even a clear distinction between "classic" fps gamers (old MAG clan) and our newcomers.

Anyway it's early days yet to jump to conclusion but devs should meditate imo. I mean, if datas are confirmed (I think I'll have a wider representative sample next month) you're making an FPS that FPS gamers don't like.

*Even if the question was referring to everyone who is not playing anymore, simply everyone answered
**Fun Fact: 2 Eve players are playing Dust even if it's not funny in their opinion

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xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 457	Posted - 2013.08.05 03:22:00 - [1] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx wrote: So, I made a survey on the forums, in game (both mail and voice chat) and via psn mail (for the guys who left).The representative sample is made up by 188 (7 still playing dust actively) members of our old MAG clan, 87 (25 still playing dust actively) members of our new dust corp and 51 outsiders (from all over the world divided into 30 FPS gamers and 21 Eve Players) for a total of 326(everyone has at least tried dust514 for a minimum period of 5 days) The questions were pretty simple: - Are you still playing dust514? - What do/did you like about dust514? - What do/did you dislike about dust514? - Do/did you have fun playing dust514? - Do you think it should be totally reworked? - If you're not playing dust514 anymore, would you give it a second chance if they totally rework it?* The first question, the majority answered "No" (272/326) The following two question were too heterogeneous and gave me inconclusive statistics. The statistic for the fourth question is a little bit depressing: it's a "No" for 257*/326 Now, this was actually something i wanted to do for my corporation only, I decided to add the last two question because of my inquisitiveness; but here the things are getting hot lads. Fifth question: the answer "Yes" has been stated 277/326. Another interesting statistic is the one pertaining the last question: 228/326 "Yes". Now, the entire point of this informative thread: the differences between player base. On the first question Eve players answered with a yes 21 / 21 On the second question Eve players answered with a yes 19 / 2 On the fifth question Eve players answered with a no 21 / 1 On the last question Eve players answered with a no 15 / 6 I'm not going to post full details (I'm too lazy and here in Italy it's too late, sorry) but there's even a clear distinction between "classic" fps gamers (old MAG clan) and our newcomers. Anyway it's early days yet to jump to conclusion but devs should meditate imo. I mean, if datas are confirmed (I think I'll have a wider representative sample next month) you're making an FPS that FPS gamers don't like. Even if the question was referring to everyone who is not playing anymore, simply everyone answered **Fun Fact: 2 Eve players are playing Dust even if it's not funny in their opinion This is a post I made in the feedback/request section. Now all I'm asking you is to take this quick survey. If you want, you can skip question 2 and 3. let me gather datas about forums frequenters!
Michael Arck sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 456	Posted - 2013.08.05 03:38:00 - [2] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: [Quote=xxwhitedevilxx]So, I made a survey on the forums, in game (both mail and voice chat) and via psn mail (for the guys who left).The representative sample is made up by 188 (7 still playing dust actively) members of our old MAG clan, 87 (25 still playing dust actively) members of our new dust corp and 51 outsiders (from all over the world divided into 30 FPS gamers and 21 Eve Players) for a total of 326(everyone has at least tried dust514 for a minimum period of 5 days) The questions were pretty simple: - Are you still playing dust514? YES - What do/did you like about dust514? The sci fi elements and the lore is just plain cool. I like that you have to pay for your gear and you lose it on the battlefield when you die. That changes your strategy and demands you to not play recklessly, unless you don't care. Always wanted to play EVE too, so this was my foot in the door. The corporation aspect-just mainly the whole scale envisioned. - What do/did you dislike about dust514? Honestly? The always complaining community and the short sightedness of them. Support your devs!!!! Our motivation streamlines Dust's growth. And LAVs. I don't find too many things I dislike about Dust honestly. (Hear that CCP, love your game! Let's keep it going!!) - Do/did you have fun playing dust514? Always do, even if I'm losing - Do you think it should be totally reworked? No not at all. Only enhanced.
Void Echo Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 899	Posted - 2013.08.05 04:15:00 - [3] - Quote - Are you still playing dust514? somewhat yeah.. - What do/did you like about dust514? the fact that its not meant to be another boring old ass FPS like COD or BF or any other current game out there, its meant to be something new. - What do/did you dislike about dust514? the community of the game, the forums, in general the damn community attitude is what I hate the most out of everything here... nothing ever gets a solid or rational conversation... everything is always being argued over and never getting anything done really... - Do/did you have fun playing dust514? yeah, I used to, it was fun to drive vehicles because im bored with running around with assault riffles all the damn time from other games... its just boring as hell to use the same weapon in different games.. - Do you think it should be totally reworked? yeah.. it should be reverted back to chromosome (not the log in feature, the ISK transfer system or the new styles and looks, I actually enjoy the way my character selection looks now, the skill tree and SP system should be worked like it is in eve online, completely passive SP but in order for that work effectively, this game would need PVE to make it not seem boring anymore. - If you're not playing dust514 anymore, would you give it a second chance if they totally rework it?* yes I would, the balancing situation was completely thrown out the window so CCP could please the COD & BF players that inhabit this game, now its completely bullshit.
XeroTheBigBoss TeamPlayers EoN. 798	Posted - 2013.08.05 04:21:00 - [4] - Quote - Are you still playing dust514? I am (but the light is gonna die out soon) - What do/did you like about dust514? Chromosome Shooting Mechanics. - What do/did you dislike about dust514? Cash traps and negligence of CCP. - Do/did you have fun playing dust514? I DID have fun. - Do you think it should be totally reworked? Definitely needs to take a step back and learn from who made Chromosome. - If you're not playing dust514 anymore, would you give it a second chance if they totally rework it?* IF I wasn't playing it anymore, NO I would not give this game a second glance. It doesn't offer much unless you keep up with the grind herd. Which is why this game will never expand with new players. This whole Adapt or Die mentality is flawed. This make wise decisions is flawed because what isn't FoTM today is FoTM tomorrow after they buff it and nerf everything else. (Cash TRAP^^ They nerf everything but buff one item to trick people into buying boosters and Aur items of that weapon till they get the Proto ISK version.)
Void Echo Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 899	Posted - 2013.08.05 04:23:00 - [5] - Quote I think everyone with a brain will agree that chromosome was the closest that dust 514 has ever gotten to perfect balance and mechanics
Logi Stician The Vanguardians 86	Posted - 2013.08.05 04:43:00 - [6] - Quote - Are you still playing dust514? Yes. - What do/did you like about dust514? My Corp, the ability to freely customize one's skills and fits - What do/did you dislike about dust514? Matchmaking, Poor spawn mechanics, Recent issues with nanite injector animation length and rep tool lock-on, death by being grazed by LAVs, more and more the game feels like a part time job, grinding out SP, rather than a game. - Do/did you have fun playing dust514? Yes. Not every match is a horrible one-sided pubstomp. Every once in a while there are fun, well fought, close games that win or lose, kindle excitement in my squad and me. There is also the joy of finally reaching the next chunk of SP to increase that one skill to become a little more effective on the field and feel as though the grind was worth it. - Do you think it should be totally reworked? No. I think CCP might be on the right track in how they are tweaking the game. - If you're not playing dust514 anymore, would you give it a second chance if they totally rework it?* N/A
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 2284	Posted - 2013.08.05 05:09:00 - [7] - Quote I'll bite. - Are you still playing dust514? On and off. I cap every week, but whether or not I'm playing to cap or AFK'ing to cap really varies. I do play more than AFK though. - What do/did you like about dust514? Customization. I can make any suit do whatever the hell I want and make it work pretty well, while other games would force you to pick a role and a limited set of role-specific gear. I would also give mad props to the devs for rolling out monthly patches, which is unheard of in a console game. - What do/did you dislike about dust514? Communication from the dev team. We know that 1.4 is going to be "The Infantry Patch" and 1.5 is "The Vehicle Patch", but we have no idea what will be going into them until a few days before the patch rolls out, so our input is rendered moot since everything is content locked by that point. - Do/did you have fun playing dust514? I do, save pubstomping matches, which I just bail on anymore. - Do you think it should be totally reworked? If we're talking about the doomsayers telling CCP to dump UE3 and PS3, then no. There are aspects I'd like to see reworked, however they are already being addressed by CCP (1.5). - If you're not playing dust514 anymore, would you give it a second chance if they totally rework it?* I'd definetly AFK less.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 457	Posted - 2013.08.05 05:32:00 - [8] - Quote Ok, thank you guys! I just woke up because i thought nobody took the survey ^^ please guys let me gather more datas! It would be useful for ccp and cpm
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 2286	Posted - 2013.08.05 05:36:00 - [9] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Ok, thank you guys! I just woke up because i thought nobody took the survey ^^ please guys let me gather more datas! It would be useful for ccp and cpm YES. MOAR DATAZ! MOOOAAAARRRR!!!
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 458	Posted - 2013.08.05 18:17:00 - [10] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Ok, thank you guys! I just woke up because i thought nobody took the survey ^^ please guys let me gather more datas! It would be useful for ccp and cpm YES. MOAR DATAZ! MOOOAAAARRRR!!! Bump (sorry)

First Prophet Valor Company Incorporated 772	Posted - 2013.08.05 18:36:00 - [11] - Quote - Are you still playing dust514? I afk more than I play, but yes. - What do/did you like about dust514? Used to play MAG, so I started playing dust hoping for large, team based objective battles with complex clan/corp support and MMO style patches, updates, and expansions. - What do/did you dislike about dust514? Much of what I wanted to see isn't in game yet. - Do/did you have fun playing dust514? Used to a little back during replication and a lot during the early stages of the E3 build. Don't really have fun anymore. - Do you think it should be totally reworked? Yes. - If you're not playing dust514 anymore, would you give it a second chance if they totally rework it?* Yes.
Washlee Pure Innocence. EoN. 245	Posted - 2013.08.05 18:41:00 - [12] - Quote - Are you still playing dust514? Eh not as much anymore - What do/did you like about dust514? Different FPS than the one's I've been playing - What do/did you dislike about dust514? Playing the same thing for over a year - Do/did you have fun playing dust514? Yea everyonce in awhile I'll play and have a good time - Do you think it should be totally reworked? Totally is a strong word , Just abit - If you're not playing dust514 anymore, would you give it a second chance if they totally rework it?* Yea why not
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 348	Posted - 2013.08.05 18:46:00 - [13] - Quote Quote: - Are you still playing dust514? Yes Quote: - What do/did you like about dust514? Bugs apart, nearly every aspects of it (I even like dying) Quote: - What do/did you dislike about dust514? The ambient negativism on the forums (at times). Quote: - Do/did you have fun playing dust514? Yes Quote: - Do you think it should be totally reworked? No
broonfondle majikthies P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 99	Posted - 2013.08.05 18:51:00 - [14] - Quote I want my 3 minutes back
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 2676	Posted - 2013.08.05 19:46:00 - [15] - Quote - Are you still playing dust514? Yes - What do/did you like about dust514? Lots of customization; deaths matter; lots of roles; New Eden politics; large maps - What do/did you dislike about dust514? Assault rifle dominance over other infantry (personally, I think it should be the noob weapon players are discouraged to get rid of); infantry dominance over vehicles (you never see the number of HAVs there used to be) - Do/did you have fun playing dust514? If I didn't I wouldn't be here - Do you think it should be totally reworked? Yes- Dust needs to be open world, instead of based around instanced battles. Let me gather, do PVE, or just walk around non-hostile districts that aren't under attack. Make contracts feel like contracts (you're contractually obligated to stay and defend our district for x amount of time. Do a good job and we'll hire you again, for more); let us travel instead of teleporting around highsec.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 994	Posted - 2013.08.05 19:54:00 - [16] - Quote The first, I say yes Then yes, no, yes, and then no Those are my answers
Casius Hakoke Fenrir's Wolves RUST415 200	Posted - 2013.08.05 20:20:00 - [17] - Quote - Are you still playing dust514? I just recently restarted playing and am currently enjoying it after a 2 month break. - What do/did you like about dust514? My favorite thing about dust is that it is based in the EVE universe. I'm not a big fan of fps games normally, but I really enjoy/appreciate what CCP is attempting to do with dust. Also, I really like the fact that CCP seems to be trying to fix a lot of the current issues with the game, balance and such. - What do/did you dislike about dust514? I think one of the biggest dislikes I have about the game is the current lack of features that really a game like this needs, but I do hope that they get added sooner rather than later. Second on my list of dislikes has a lot to do with the community and the lack of understanding that it seems, at least to me, that CCP is attempting to turn the game around. And third, it seems to me that a large number of the player base would rather accuse someone of hacking/cheating after a match instead of just offering up a message of 'good game', or 'well played I'll get you next time'. Finley the lack of communication and back and forth from CCP where they keep trying to develop and balance in secret and hope that it will work out instead of engaging the community on it, although it does seem that CCP is working on that as well, but they may be taking to long. - Do/did you have fun playing dust514? I still have a lot of fun playing dust, for me dust is a very casual shooter game that has just enough risk to allow it to be interesting. While I will probably play pretty intensely for the next several months, I can see myself taking another break as it gets boring, but as with any game I play I will come back to it after a few months. - Do you think it should be totally reworked? I don't know about a total rework, but dust could definitely benefit from it. A lot of the ground work is there, mostly what not to do. I do like what CCP is doing with the current balance passes, at least what has been mentioned as being worked on. But by the time they are done with all of the balances we may end up with a very different game anyways. - If you're not playing dust514 anymore, would you give it a second chance if they totally rework it? As stated I still currently play dust, but if it was totally reworked, yes I would give it another go.
Halador Osiris Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 543	Posted - 2013.08.05 20:24:00 - [18] - Quote - Are you still playing dust514? Yes - What do/did you like about dust514? I like that actions have consequences. Yes, I could call in 5 dropships in a match, but that would negatively affect my other matches by negatively affecting my wallet. Also, I like that my dropship is VTOL and doesn't switch to a plane. I tried Planetside 2 and didn't like that none of the vehicles operate like a helicopter. They are all VTOL, but they rely on forward flight with wings. I'd much rather fly a helicopter/dropship because they take more skill to operate and I just enjoy that type of flight mechanic more. - What do/did you dislike about dust514? There is so much cool content that has been proposed that we don't see. I don't expect CCP to devote a whole bunch of devs to a FTP game, but I'd like to see more delivery on content they've talked about or I would like thoughts on when that sort of thing will be done by. It seems like a lot of resources at this point are devoted to optimizing the game, and I'd probably be happier if they would outline what their optimization goals are, what they are currently at, and how these metrics have progressed over time. Also, if they would devote less to balancing the game and more to delivering new content, that'd be cool. They can balance it all the want, but when they introduce new content they will have to rebalance around that. - Do/did you have fun playing dust514? Yes, I do, although I have less now than I used to. - Do you think it should be totally reworked? Nah, I like which way it's going. Mostly I think this game needs to branch out into PvE, manufacturing, and a market. Strong PvE can easily be wrapped up into EVE, especially if it takes place in space, like on a deserted space station which has been overrun by rogue drones.
8213 Grade No.2 92	Posted - 2013.08.05 21:06:00 - [19] - Quote - Are you still playing dust514? Yes. I play it 1-2 days per week - What do/did you like about dust514? Its new. The fact that you develop a character not just level up. Team based FPS. THE SOUND ENGINE. The endless variety of options you can get. The grind for SP. And, killing AURUM players - What do/did you dislike about dust514? Faulty mechanics. Such as: Hit detection, spawns, freeze ups, holes in maps, lighting engine. KB&M being integrated against controllers. Unbalanced weapons - Do/did you have fun playing dust514? Most of the time, yes. There are plenty of things to try to make the game fun for my taste of how I want to play at any given moment - Do you think it should be totally reworked? No. The concepts are good, they just need better engineering. - If you're not playing dust514 anymore, would you give it a second chance if they totally rework it?*
CAELAN Andoril Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 55	Posted - 2013.08.05 21:24:00 - [20] - Quote 1. Are you still playing dust514? Yes. 2. What do/did you like about dust514? Pretty much exclusively the lore and the concepts of the game. I liked the idea that we would be fighting over actual territories for other human beings, rather than fighting for no reason whatsoever. 3. What do/did you dislike about dust514? So much it's difficult to list it all. Mostly the lack of content, though. I thought I was going to be participating in a universe, not playing in a half-assed lobby shooter. 4. Do/did you have fun playing dust514? Rarely. So mostly no. 5. Do you think it should be totally reworked? Absolutely yes. 6. If you're not playing dust514 anymore, would you give it a second chance if they totally rework it? While I'm still playing, I'll go ahead and answer yes on this one. Hell, if they reworked and made it a better, more enjoyable game, I'd actually give CCP money.

Poplo Furuya Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 578	Posted - 2013.08.05 22:21:00 - [21] - Quote - Are you still playing dust514? Yep. - What do/did you like about dust514? The EVE connection was a large draw, that it doesn't actually exist is a minor problem. An FPS where outcomes actually matter beyond the match was also attractive. Again, not really the case. Hmm, other things I currently like... the Laser Rifle has some cool mechanics underpinning it. The customisation aspect feels good even if in actuality it's pretty flawed. Right, stretching now... uh... the lore of the EVE universe is interesting albeit highly underutilised in-game? Gods, that question was hard. Most of the attempts at positives were attached to a negative, too. - What do/did you dislike about dust514? Oh boy, where to start. Best bullet this one: - Game modes are terrible. This means all gameplay is terrible. - On top of being terrible they're also limited, with nothing else to do. - Lack of good game modes with a strong focus and an Attacker VS Defender scenario has hamstrung the map designers. They can't engineer maps to promote certain tactics and playstyles if they've got nothing to work with. - Infantry and vehicular game are seriously disconnected. This is actually more to do with the dire game modes and by extension map design, not balancing. - ...Though I guess while we're on the subject, the balancing. - EVE connection is essentially non-existent. - Performance issues. - It's hard to care about PC or FW. Not much consequence to either, feels like. - New Player Experience. - Intermediate Player Experience. - Veteran Player Experience. - The time limit of 1 month to become passable at a single role, 4 to become good at it. - Passive SP limited to one character per account in addition to the above point. - Some gear increasing in effectiveness exponentially at PRO, widening the chasm between low-SP and high-SP without compelling reason. Extenders jumping from 22/33/66 for example. 29/44/66 or 22/33/44 is more sensible. - Lack of any interesting economy. - Lack of pink Quafe suits. - That AURUM announcer in the Warbarge - 100% consistency in events being disappointing. - Redline, while I understand why it's there, it is still an intrusive mechanic in it's current implementation around many points. Can be a very artificial barrier in taking sensible defensive action in some cases. - MLG sillyness that they brought some guy in for. I mean, really? Moving on, though I'm sure I've forgotten some things. - Do/did you have fun playing dust514? Yeah, can be fun. Still banking on it getting better which makes me an optimistic fool. If they brought in the rolling SP cap I'd be very happy 'cause then I'd be more at ease just popping in once every fortnight or so. It's not that I don't enjoy playing, it's just I kinda resent being incentivised into playing past the point where I'm enjoying myself. I don't actually do that very often so I don't really keep up in the SP stakes... it's just that many others do. That's bad for twofold reasons. #1: it makes players burn out faster, causing playerbase losses in the long term. #2: MCC AFKers. - Do you think it should be totally reworked? Yes, absolutely. - If you're not playing dust514 anymore, would you give it a second chance if they totally rework it?* Yes.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 458	Posted - 2013.08.05 22:41:00 - [22] - Quote Thank you for your help guys! I hope more people state their opinion so we'll have a good overview that could be useful for devs.
Sgt Buttscratch G I A N T EoN. 584	Posted - 2013.08.05 22:47:00 - [23] - Quote - Are you still playing dust514? Yes - What do/did you like about dust514? I like the whole space thing, sucker for that. I also like the Skill system and the games potential - What do/did you dislike about dust514? Pathetic development in areas, armor, vehicles, weird physics choices, not being able to step up a 6" step if I dont have stamina. - Do/did you have fun playing dust514? I have fun finding humor at others expense - Do you think it should be totally reworked? No but I think the amount of missing stuff we should have by now should be here(recial suits vehicles weapons, game modes, trade - If you're not playing dust514 anymore, would you give it a second chance if they totally rework it?* N/A


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