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Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 873	Posted - 2013.08.04 21:07:00 - [31] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Blazin Dank wrote: I'd gladly pay a monthly subscription fee for DUST if they brought it up to A or AAA gaming standards. I assume that dev's and other ccp employees need to eat and have a place to sleep so I buy AUM. Not a lot of AUM but when I can (passed on the new CoD maps for a merc pack). In my business clients expect a quality product and that quality comes from $$$ given to me from clients that allows me to stay in business. 1 year ago I shut my doors to the public and started charging a membership fee/made people apply to become customers and business is booming. Dedicated customers and minimal complaints/issues and more time to actually do my job. Maybe it's a generation gap or the feeling of entitlement or whatever but I don't understand all the whining and bitching over a free game. I'm hoping a lot of this will die down with kids going back to school over the next few weeks! :D You know Christmas? Dust 514 was the FPS nerd equivalent of Christmas. Christmas was stolen. It's not so much a generational entitlement thing as an international atrocity. We're just waiting for the Grinch to give it back now. What is "Nerdy" about Dust 514 ? Is actually very childless... Big explosions, road kills, Power Rangers Prototype equipment, Childless "Bully like" Pubstomping .... ETC. I will actually enjoy Dust 514 allot more if it was more "Nerdy".
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 165	Posted - 2013.08.04 21:23:00 - [32] - Quote lol i can just see ccp now all sat round a table saying "lets stop our guaranteed income and make eve free to play and hope that a few people who couldn't afford to play the game before come back"
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 2871	Posted - 2013.08.04 22:20:00 - [33] - Quote Sour Jelly wrote: New games now are totally free! some of the best on the web are free with purchasable tokens, equipment.. DUST 514 is free with AUR to buy with money and then to be used to buy gear vehicles drop suits etc.. But EVE still remains a monthly pay? Its CRAZY! i know loads of people who have dropped EVE because of the monthly pay. CCP : You need to change this, i guarantee you, if you advertise EVE as a free game all those people will come crawling back:) and everyone knows there's always people willing to pay a little money every so often to boost there gaming experience. Also i think you should integrate customization for suits on DUST as well as ships on EVE :) Sour jelly out. L Are you nuts? http://www.eveonline.com/capsuleers/jita-riots/ Quote: The EVE Community is passionate about EVE, last proven during the Summer of 2011 as players protested en masse against the general direction of game development... The idea of EVE becoming a free-to-play game was one of the central issues that all those people lost their **** about. It's never going to happen.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 1579	Posted - 2013.08.04 22:33:00 - [34] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: No. Altageddon would result in the existing playerbase as well. Implying the tryhard evetards dont already have a dozen or so alts
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 598	Posted - 2013.08.04 22:35:00 - [35] - Quote Sour Jelly wrote: New games now are totally free! some of the best on the web are free with purchasable tokens, equipment.. DUST 514 is free with AUR to buy with money and then to be used to buy gear vehicles drop suits etc.. But EVE still remains a monthly pay? Its CRAZY! i know loads of people who have dropped EVE because of the monthly pay. CCP : You need to change this, i guarantee you, if you advertise EVE as a free game all those people will come crawling back:) and everyone knows there's always people willing to pay a little money every so often to boost there gaming experience. Also i think you should integrate customization for suits on DUST as well as ships on EVE :) Sour jelly out. L Seems like they're doin' alright to me. /shrug
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6939	Posted - 2013.08.04 22:37:00 - [36] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Sour Jelly wrote: New games now are totally free! some of the best on the web are free with purchasable tokens, equipment.. DUST 514 is free with AUR to buy with money and then to be used to buy gear vehicles drop suits etc.. But EVE still remains a monthly pay? Its CRAZY! i know loads of people who have dropped EVE because of the monthly pay. CCP : You need to change this, i guarantee you, if you advertise EVE as a free game all those people will come crawling back:) and everyone knows there's always people willing to pay a little money every so often to boost there gaming experience. Also i think you should integrate customization for suits on DUST as well as ships on EVE :) Sour jelly out. L EVE have unique hybrid subscription fee. You can pay in real money for monthly fee, or in-game money - ISK. It takes about 500-550kk ISK/month. That is not "unique"....other F2P games uses a similar system to unlock mission expansions, and other content. Its call "Get pay to play". You can unlock all the content in the game with hours,and hours of never ending grinding. Cept a smart player can get 500 million doing nearly nothing. Its the 10 player alts that takes quite a bit of work.
Bubba Salaman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 5	Posted - 2013.08.04 22:55:00 - [37] - Quote CCP has attempted to transition to F2P like Dust is. It failed. There were literally riots. CCP might make a few new players, but many of their current players, the dedicated ones who get tattoos and fly to Iceland every year for Fanfest, would abandon their game. It is not likely that CCP would benefit from the move, which is why they stopped trying. OP needs to go read some New Eden history.
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1097	Posted - 2013.08.04 23:37:00 - [38] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Blazin Dank wrote: I'd gladly pay a monthly subscription fee for DUST if they brought it up to A or AAA gaming standards. I assume that dev's and other ccp employees need to eat and have a place to sleep so I buy AUM. Not a lot of AUM but when I can (passed on the new CoD maps for a merc pack). In my business clients expect a quality product and that quality comes from $$$ given to me from clients that allows me to stay in business. 1 year ago I shut my doors to the public and started charging a membership fee/made people apply to become customers and business is booming. Dedicated customers and minimal complaints/issues and more time to actually do my job. Maybe it's a generation gap or the feeling of entitlement or whatever but I don't understand all the whining and bitching over a free game. I'm hoping a lot of this will die down with kids going back to school over the next few weeks! :D You know Christmas? Dust 514 was the FPS nerd equivalent of Christmas. Christmas was stolen. It's not so much a generational entitlement thing as an international atrocity. We're just waiting for the Grinch to give it back now. What is "Nerdy" about Dust 514 ? Is actually very childless... Big explosions, road kills, Power Rangers Prototype equipment, Childless "Bully like" Pubstomping .... ETC. I will actually enjoy Dust 514 allot more if it was more "Nerdy". The word "nerd" doesn't have much, if any, association with children.
Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 449	Posted - 2013.08.04 23:45:00 - [39] - Quote Sour Jelly wrote: New games now are totally free! some of the best on the web are free with purchasable tokens, equipment.. DUST 514 is free with AUR to buy with money and then to be used to buy gear vehicles drop suits etc.. But EVE still remains a monthly pay? Its CRAZY! i know loads of people who have dropped EVE because of the monthly pay. CCP : You need to change this, i guarantee you, if you advertise EVE as a free game all those people will come crawling back:) and everyone knows there's always people willing to pay a little money every so often to boost there gaming experience. Also i think you should integrate customization for suits on DUST as well as ships on EVE :) Sour jelly out. L learn about PLEX in EVE.....paying monthly is an option.... you can buy a PLEX with isk...
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 796	Posted - 2013.08.05 04:45:00 - [40] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: lowratehitman wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Yea because DCUO and Dust 514 showed devs that F2P is possible on consoles. Yea and they said mobile gaming was the future too...and then the world produced Ouya. And we all know how Ouya is turning out. F2P also means " Subscription Free ", like Defiance have already done, and also Start Wars. Cheaper to buy games/subscription free/F2P MMO games, are the future. Look at FF14... coming out soon, and they doing exactly that. FF14 will be $12 a month.... but I will still play it. It won't last... how much you want to bet, that it will be Subscription Free in 1 or 2 months ? Still downloading EvE ....20gb... I had to delete so much prom from my HDD ... I hope my old computer can run this. What is the minimum specs ? FF11 online has been up for 10 yrs at $9 a month, highly doubt any of the online series will ever be free...well, hold up... the beta is and will be free :)

Alena Ventrallis Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 44	Posted - 2013.08.05 05:11:00 - [41] - Quote EVE has PLEX if you want to play for free. You have to spend in-game money to buy them, but CCP still gets their money from it.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1012	Posted - 2013.08.05 05:37:00 - [42] - Quote Sour Jelly wrote: Guys seriously it was an expression of opinion not a enforcement of law was just saying that all the other games are doing it so why not EVE.. If you play EVE as your main game, you will be able to pay for EVE with in-game money instead of real money if you so choose. The higher-up specialists can grind enough money to buy a PLEX which extends game-time by a month with just 8 hours of grind, the lowers can do the same with a bit more work.
The Robot Devil Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 808	Posted - 2013.08.05 09:48:00 - [43] - Quote Sour Jelly wrote: New games now are totally free! some of the best on the web are free with purchasable tokens, equipment.. DUST 514 is free with AUR to buy with money and then to be used to buy gear vehicles drop suits etc.. But EVE still remains a monthly pay? Its CRAZY! i know loads of people who have dropped EVE because of the monthly pay. CCP : You need to change this, i guarantee you, if you advertise EVE as a free game all those people will come crawling back:) and everyone knows there's always people willing to pay a little money every so often to boost there gaming experience. Also i think you should integrate customization for suits on DUST as well as ships on EVE :) Sour jelly out. L Get good and the game is free.
The Robot Devil Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 808	Posted - 2013.08.05 09:53:00 - [44] - Quote AP Grasshopper wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Confirming that EVE players want nothing to do with you or your kind and are happy the way things are. I play Eve and Dust. I Like both games. Dust 514 community appears to be full of toxic kinder gardeners though. DUST is kindergarten and EVE is college. Both forums can be very toxic.
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 878	Posted - 2013.08.05 09:57:00 - [45] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Sour Jelly wrote: New games now are totally free! some of the best on the web are free with purchasable tokens, equipment.. DUST 514 is free with AUR to buy with money and then to be used to buy gear vehicles drop suits etc.. But EVE still remains a monthly pay? Its CRAZY! i know loads of people who have dropped EVE because of the monthly pay. CCP : You need to change this, i guarantee you, if you advertise EVE as a free game all those people will come crawling back:) and everyone knows there's always people willing to pay a little money every so often to boost there gaming experience. Also i think you should integrate customization for suits on DUST as well as ships on EVE :) Sour jelly out. L Get good and the game is free. You know what else is free ? "Poo"... of course, you won't eat crap because is "free"... right ?
Racro 01 Arifistan The Surrogates Of War 15	Posted - 2013.08.05 10:03:00 - [46] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Sour Jelly wrote: New games now are totally free! some of the best on the web are free with purchasable tokens, equipment.. DUST 514 is free with AUR to buy with money and then to be used to buy gear vehicles drop suits etc.. But EVE still remains a monthly pay? Its CRAZY! i know loads of people who have dropped EVE because of the monthly pay. CCP : You need to change this, i guarantee you, if you advertise EVE as a free game all those people will come crawling back:) and everyone knows there's always people willing to pay a little money every so often to boost there gaming experience. Also i think you should integrate customization for suits on DUST as well as ships on EVE :) Sour jelly out. L EVE have unique hybrid subscription fee. You can pay in real money for monthly fee, or in-game money - ISK. It takes about 500-550kk ISK/month. That is not "unique"....other F2P games uses a similar system to unlock mission expansions, and other content. Its call "Get pay to play". You can unlock all the content in the game with hours,and hours of never ending grinding. No, it's not the same. In other games you buying this expansion from people that made game, in EVE you buying GTC(game time code) from people that playing it, have good jobs and prefer to pay 15$ for fee +some extra cash to buy PLEX'es(GTC) with they may sell to other players for ISK, and not worry about slim in-game wallet. In EVE there is a whole circle of people who benefit from this system. EVE is not 'old' with it :) this hybrid system makes CCP attractive on marked, and not just for consumers like we, but also for game designers of other company with want something similar in they games. Now i am tempted to download EVE... crap!!...I been trying so hard to resist the temptation download eve today. and blow theshit out of mercs tomorrow from orbit. :
The Robot Devil Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 808	Posted - 2013.08.05 10:04:00 - [47] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: lowratehitman wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Yea because DCUO and Dust 514 showed devs that F2P is possible on consoles. Yea and they said mobile gaming was the future too...and then the world produced Ouya. And we all know how Ouya is turning out. F2P also means " Subscription Free ", like Defiance have already done, and also Start Wars. Cheaper to buy games/subscription free/F2P MMO games, are the future. Look at FF14... coming out soon, and they doing exactly that. FF14 will be $12 a month.... but I will still play it. It won't last... how much you want to bet, that it will be Subscription Free in 1 or 2 months ? Still downloading EvE ....20gb... I had to delete so much prom from my HDD ... I hope my old computer can run this. What is the minimum specs ? Send me an eve mail and I can get you into my corp in null. With good mining skills you can make enough to pay for game time and still make enough ISK to buy shinnies. It will be rough for a month or two but after that you can easily pay with an hours worth of mining a day. I can do almost all the drone sites in a t1 battlecrusier in 20-45 minutes and make around 10 M. If you want to fly drop me a line and I will try to get you hooked up. Burl en Daire
dustwaffle Gravity Prone EoN. 285	Posted - 2013.08.05 10:33:00 - [48] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: lowratehitman wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Yea because DCUO and Dust 514 showed devs that F2P is possible on consoles. Yea and they said mobile gaming was the future too...and then the world produced Ouya. And we all know how Ouya is turning out. F2P also means " Subscription Free ", like Defiance have already done, and also Start Wars. Cheaper to buy games/subscription free/F2P MMO games, are the future. Look at FF14... coming out soon, and they doing exactly that. FF14 will be $12 a month.... but I will still play it. It won't last... how much you want to bet, that it will be Subscription Free in 1 or 2 months ? Still downloading EvE ....20gb... I had to delete so much prom from my HDD ... I hope my old computer can run this. What is the minimum specs ? Send me an eve mail and I can get you into my corp in null. With good mining skills you can make enough to pay for game time and still make enough ISK to buy shinnies. It will be rough for a month or two but after that you can easily pay with an hours worth of mining a day. I can do almost all the drone sites in a t1 battlecrusier in 20-45 minutes and make around 10 M. If you want to fly drop me a line and I will try to get you hooked up. Burl en Daire Stealth mining slave recruitment spotted!
The Robot Devil Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 809	Posted - 2013.08.05 10:46:00 - [49] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: Sour Jelly wrote: New games now are totally free! some of the best on the web are free with purchasable tokens, equipment.. DUST 514 is free with AUR to buy with money and then to be used to buy gear vehicles drop suits etc.. But EVE still remains a monthly pay? Its CRAZY! i know loads of people who have dropped EVE because of the monthly pay. CCP : You need to change this, i guarantee you, if you advertise EVE as a free game all those people will come crawling back:) and everyone knows there's always people willing to pay a little money every so often to boost there gaming experience. Also i think you should integrate customization for suits on DUST as well as ships on EVE :) Sour jelly out. L Get good and the game is free. You know what else is free ? "Poo"... of course, you won't eat crap because is "free"... right ? Poo isn't free. I pay for the food. I guess I could farm it and it would be free but I still wouldn't eat it. Point is that if a pilot watches their wallet, makes decent choices and spends time in game then playing for free is possible.
bethany valvetino Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 73	Posted - 2013.08.05 11:10:00 - [50] - Quote Sour Jelly wrote: New games now are totally free! some of the best on the web are free with purchasable tokens, equipment.. DUST 514 is free with AUR to buy with money and then to be used to buy gear vehicles drop suits etc.. But EVE still remains a monthly pay? Its CRAZY! i know loads of people who have dropped EVE because of the monthly pay. CCP : You need to change this, i guarantee you, if you advertise EVE as a free game all those people will come crawling back:) and everyone knows there's always people willing to pay a little money every so often to boost there gaming experience. Also i think you should integrate customization for suits on DUST as well as ships on EVE :) Sour jelly out. L My god have your missed the point mate. If ppl are to RL scrub to pay -ú9.95 per month, then then aint spending any cash at all. also, if you aren't a total moron, your eve should pay for it's self with plex. Your mates that left are either total scrubs and should maybe get a job in rl rather than living off benefits and my taxes or are so crap at the game they can't make the tiny 600mill a plex cost. I think New Eden is better without you and your day time tv watching fat mates.

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1001	Posted - 2013.08.05 11:17:00 - [51] - Quote bethany valvetino wrote: Sour Jelly wrote: New games now are totally free! some of the best on the web are free with purchasable tokens, equipment.. DUST 514 is free with AUR to buy with money and then to be used to buy gear vehicles drop suits etc.. But EVE still remains a monthly pay? Its CRAZY! i know loads of people who have dropped EVE because of the monthly pay. CCP : You need to change this, i guarantee you, if you advertise EVE as a free game all those people will come crawling back:) and everyone knows there's always people willing to pay a little money every so often to boost there gaming experience. Also i think you should integrate customization for suits on DUST as well as ships on EVE :) Sour jelly out. L My god have your missed the point mate. If ppl are to RL scrub to pay -ú9.95 per month, then then aint spending any cash at all. also, if you aren't a total moron, your eve should pay for it's self with plex. Your mates that left are either total scrubs and should maybe get a job in rl rather than living off benefits and my taxes or are so crap at the game they can't make the tiny 600mill a plex cost. I think New Eden is better without you and your day time tv watching fat mates. Lol Beth always teaching the carebears how to HTFU, I love reading your anti carebear posts. The lesson you taught me about never trusting pirates sunk in. From Harkon
bethany valvetino Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 74	Posted - 2013.08.05 15:10:00 - [52] - Quote True Adamance wrote: bethany valvetino wrote: Sour Jelly wrote: New games now are totally free! some of the best on the web are free with purchasable tokens, equipment.. DUST 514 is free with AUR to buy with money and then to be used to buy gear vehicles drop suits etc.. But EVE still remains a monthly pay? Its CRAZY! i know loads of people who have dropped EVE because of the monthly pay. CCP : You need to change this, i guarantee you, if you advertise EVE as a free game all those people will come crawling back:) and everyone knows there's always people willing to pay a little money every so often to boost there gaming experience. Also i think you should integrate customization for suits on DUST as well as ships on EVE :) Sour jelly out. L My god have your missed the point mate. If ppl are to RL scrub to pay -ú9.95 per month, then then aint spending any cash at all. also, if you aren't a total moron, your eve should pay for it's self with plex. Your mates that left are either total scrubs and should maybe get a job in rl rather than living off benefits and my taxes or are so crap at the game they can't make the tiny 600mill a plex cost. I think New Eden is better without you and your day time tv watching fat mates. Lol Beth always teaching the carebears how to HTFU, I love reading your anti carebear posts. The lesson you taught me about never trusting pirates sunk in. From Harkon Just saying it the way I see it... yet another post from some backward mouth breather who is so unable to change or adapt, he has to coming bleating on the fourms for ccp to change things to suit him.... Dude it isn't gonna happen.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1473	Posted - 2013.08.05 15:22:00 - [53] - Quote F2P is a business model, not the business model. It works for some games and it doesn't work for others. Not every single game needs to be F2P.. and in fact many games have suffered because they are F2P (not by player count or income necessarily but my the integrity of the game experience). Personally.. I think its a horrible monetization model, and generally just makes you feel like any sort of developer changes are made simply to squeeze more cash out of you. MMORPGs are hurt the worst by the F2P model imo, its a horrible way to experience an MMO.


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