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Sour Jelly Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.08.04 09:44:00 - [1] - Quote New games now are totally free! some of the best on the web are free with purchasable tokens, equipment.. DUST 514 is free with AUR to buy with money and then to be used to buy gear vehicles drop suits etc.. But EVE still remains a monthly pay? Its CRAZY! i know loads of people who have dropped EVE because of the monthly pay. CCP : You need to change this, i guarantee you, if you advertise EVE as a free game all those people will come crawling back:) and everyone knows there's always people willing to pay a little money every so often to boost there gaming experience. Also i think you should integrate customization for suits on DUST as well as ships on EVE :) Sour jelly out. L
aden slayer Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 555	Posted - 2013.08.04 09:49:00 - [2] - Quote Yesssss. It's not like CCP are normal people who needs money to develop the game, buy cloths, eat lunch and pay their rent. Let's make EVE F2P and cut off CCP's main source of income.
Sour Jelly Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.08.04 09:51:00 - [3] - Quote aden slayer wrote: Yesssss. It's not like CCP are normal people who needs money to develop the game, buy cloths, eat lunch and pay their rent. Let's make EVE F2P and cut off CCP's main source of income. No. with more people playing DUST and paying for AUR and then EVE players paying for whatever sort of currency they would still get money. also if EVE was free more people would play therefore more money spent on this currency
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon Plus 2309	Posted - 2013.08.04 09:52:00 - [4] - Quote No. Altageddon would result in the existing playerbase as well.
aden slayer Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 556	Posted - 2013.08.04 09:56:00 - [5] - Quote Sour Jelly wrote: aden slayer wrote: Yesssss. It's not like CCP are normal people who needs money to develop the game, buy cloths, eat lunch and pay their rent. Let's make EVE F2P and cut off CCP's main source of income. No. with more people playing DUST and paying for AUR and then EVE players paying for whatever sort of currency they would still get money. also if EVE was free more people would play therefore more money spent on this currency And what if CCP makes EVE F2P and 80% of it's players decides not to buy AUR? What are you gonna do? give them a handout?
Sour Jelly Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.08.04 09:58:00 - [6] - Quote Guys seriously it was an expression of opinion not a enforcement of law was just saying that all the other games are doing it so why not EVE..
aden slayer Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 556	Posted - 2013.08.04 10:02:00 - [7] - Quote Sour Jelly wrote: Guys seriously it was an expression of opinion not a enforcement of law was just saying that all the other games are doing it so why not EVE.. Because to keep EVE going, CCP needs THIS.
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 871	Posted - 2013.08.04 10:08:00 - [8] - Quote Sour Jelly wrote: Guys seriously it was an expression of opinion not a enforcement of law was just saying that all the other games are doing it so why not EVE.. Because CCP and EVE fans are stack 10 years in the past .... They don't understand that the market have changed in the past decade, and that most companies are starting to see the MMO F2P model as the "Future" of gaming. Just look at how many F2P games are going to be in the PS4 at launch, and how many companies already announced F2P projects for the next 5 years.
Michael Arck sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 447	Posted - 2013.08.04 10:12:00 - [9] - Quote Yea because DCUO and Dust 514 showed devs that F2P is possible on consoles. Yea and they said mobile gaming was the future too...and then the world produced Ouya. And we all know how Ouya is turning out.
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 871	Posted - 2013.08.04 10:18:00 - [10] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Yea because DCUO and Dust 514 showed devs that F2P is possible on consoles. Yea and they said mobile gaming was the future too...and then the world produced Ouya. And we all know how Ouya is turning out. F2P also means " Subscription Free ", like Defiance have already done, and also Start Wars. Cheaper to buy games/subscription free/F2P MMO games, are the future. Look at FF14... coming out soon, and they doing exactly that.

Michael Arck sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 447	Posted - 2013.08.04 10:23:00 - [11] - Quote Just saying, we'll see when the future gets here. That's all. Neither disagreeing or agreeing with your post
Sylwester Dziewiecki BetaMax. 133	Posted - 2013.08.04 10:25:00 - [12] - Quote Sour Jelly wrote: New games now are totally free! some of the best on the web are free with purchasable tokens, equipment.. DUST 514 is free with AUR to buy with money and then to be used to buy gear vehicles drop suits etc.. But EVE still remains a monthly pay? Its CRAZY! i know loads of people who have dropped EVE because of the monthly pay. CCP : You need to change this, i guarantee you, if you advertise EVE as a free game all those people will come crawling back:) and everyone knows there's always people willing to pay a little money every so often to boost there gaming experience. Also i think you should integrate customization for suits on DUST as well as ships on EVE :) Sour jelly out. L EVE have unique hybrid subscription fee. You can pay in real money for monthly fee, or in-game money - ISK. It takes about 500-550kk ISK/month.
Sour Jelly Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.08.04 10:31:00 - [13] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Sour Jelly wrote: New games now are totally free! some of the best on the web are free with purchasable tokens, equipment.. DUST 514 is free with AUR to buy with money and then to be used to buy gear vehicles drop suits etc.. But EVE still remains a monthly pay? Its CRAZY! i know loads of people who have dropped EVE because of the monthly pay. CCP : You need to change this, i guarantee you, if you advertise EVE as a free game all those people will come crawling back:) and everyone knows there's always people willing to pay a little money every so often to boost there gaming experience. Also i think you should integrate customization for suits on DUST as well as ships on EVE :) Sour jelly out. L EVE have unique hybrid subscription fee. You can pay in real money for monthly fee, or in-game money - ISK. It takes about 500-550kk ISK/month. Yes i know, But then your just playing the game- to be able to play the game
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 871	Posted - 2013.08.04 10:35:00 - [14] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Sour Jelly wrote: New games now are totally free! some of the best on the web are free with purchasable tokens, equipment.. DUST 514 is free with AUR to buy with money and then to be used to buy gear vehicles drop suits etc.. But EVE still remains a monthly pay? Its CRAZY! i know loads of people who have dropped EVE because of the monthly pay. CCP : You need to change this, i guarantee you, if you advertise EVE as a free game all those people will come crawling back:) and everyone knows there's always people willing to pay a little money every so often to boost there gaming experience. Also i think you should integrate customization for suits on DUST as well as ships on EVE :) Sour jelly out. L EVE have unique hybrid subscription fee. You can pay in real money for monthly fee, or in-game money - ISK. It takes about 500-550kk ISK/month. That is not "unique"....other F2P games uses a similar system to unlock mission expansions, and other content. Its call "Get pay to play". You can unlock all the content in the game with hours,and hours of never ending grinding.
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1093	Posted - 2013.08.04 10:46:00 - [15] - Quote Confirming that EVE players want nothing to do with you or your kind and are happy the way things are.
Callidus Vanus Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 139	Posted - 2013.08.04 11:02:00 - [16] - Quote OP has never heard of the Jita riots.
AP Grasshopper Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.08.04 11:07:00 - [17] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Confirming that EVE players want nothing to do with you or your kind and are happy the way things are. I play Eve and Dust. I Like both games. Dust 514 community appears to be full of toxic kinder gardeners though.
Sylwester Dziewiecki BetaMax. 133	Posted - 2013.08.04 11:08:00 - [18] - Quote Sour Jelly wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Sour Jelly wrote: New games now are totally free! some of the best on the web are free with purchasable tokens, equipment.. DUST 514 is free with AUR to buy with money and then to be used to buy gear vehicles drop suits etc.. But EVE still remains a monthly pay? Its CRAZY! i know loads of people who have dropped EVE because of the monthly pay. CCP : You need to change this, i guarantee you, if you advertise EVE as a free game all those people will come crawling back:) and everyone knows there's always people willing to pay a little money every so often to boost there gaming experience. Also i think you should integrate customization for suits on DUST as well as ships on EVE :) Sour jelly out. L EVE have unique hybrid subscription fee. You can pay in real money for monthly fee, or in-game money - ISK. It takes about 500-550kk ISK/month. Yes i know, But then your just playing the game- to be able to play the game Yes, it takes 5-8hr if someone is lazy..
Sylwester Dziewiecki BetaMax. 133	Posted - 2013.08.04 11:17:00 - [19] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Sour Jelly wrote: New games now are totally free! some of the best on the web are free with purchasable tokens, equipment.. DUST 514 is free with AUR to buy with money and then to be used to buy gear vehicles drop suits etc.. But EVE still remains a monthly pay? Its CRAZY! i know loads of people who have dropped EVE because of the monthly pay. CCP : You need to change this, i guarantee you, if you advertise EVE as a free game all those people will come crawling back:) and everyone knows there's always people willing to pay a little money every so often to boost there gaming experience. Also i think you should integrate customization for suits on DUST as well as ships on EVE :) Sour jelly out. L EVE have unique hybrid subscription fee. You can pay in real money for monthly fee, or in-game money - ISK. It takes about 500-550kk ISK/month. That is not "unique"....other F2P games uses a similar system to unlock mission expansions, and other content. Its call "Get pay to play". You can unlock all the content in the game with hours,and hours of never ending grinding. No, it's not the same. In other games you buying this expansion from people that made game, in EVE you buying GTC(game time code) from people that playing it, have good jobs and prefer to pay 15$ for fee +some extra cash to buy PLEX'es(GTC) with they may sell to other players for ISK, and not worry about slim in-game wallet. In EVE there is a whole circle of people who benefit from this system. EVE is not 'old' with it :) this hybrid system makes CCP attractive on marked, and not just for consumers like we, but also for game designers of other company with want something similar in they games.
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 871	Posted - 2013.08.04 11:27:00 - [20] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Sour Jelly wrote: New games now are totally free! some of the best on the web are free with purchasable tokens, equipment.. DUST 514 is free with AUR to buy with money and then to be used to buy gear vehicles drop suits etc.. But EVE still remains a monthly pay? Its CRAZY! i know loads of people who have dropped EVE because of the monthly pay. CCP : You need to change this, i guarantee you, if you advertise EVE as a free game all those people will come crawling back:) and everyone knows there's always people willing to pay a little money every so often to boost there gaming experience. Also i think you should integrate customization for suits on DUST as well as ships on EVE :) Sour jelly out. L EVE have unique hybrid subscription fee. You can pay in real money for monthly fee, or in-game money - ISK. It takes about 500-550kk ISK/month. That is not "unique"....other F2P games uses a similar system to unlock mission expansions, and other content. Its call "Get pay to play". You can unlock all the content in the game with hours,and hours of never ending grinding. No, it's not the same. In other games you buying this expansion from people that made game, in EVE you buying GTC(game time code) from people that playing it, have good jobs and prefer to pay 15$ for fee +some extra cash to buy PLEX'es(GTC) with they may sell to other players for ISK, and not worry about slim in-game wallet. In EVE there is a whole circle of people who benefit from this system. EVE is not 'old' with it :) this hybrid system makes CCP attractive on marked, and not just for consumers like we, but also for game designers of other company with want something similar in they games. Now i am tempted to download EVE... crap!!...I been trying so hard to resist the temptation

Kiriasis Draca Penguin's March 63	Posted - 2013.08.04 11:38:00 - [21] - Quote just a thought, knowing how much some of my friends pay on these, F2P games, the wave of the future is a bigger moneymaker when, instead of one person spending $60 on the game at the store, they are spending $80-200 on the single game that's F2P. I remember early subscription games quite well. Never played them because it was an expense that could not be afforded but now, I put twenty-five dollars in a month to this game just so I could get passive and active boosters. F2P is the future because the money made off of the games packages and deals is a better source of revenue
dustwaffle Gravity Prone EoN. 283	Posted - 2013.08.04 11:38:00 - [22] - Quote Quote: Now i am tempted to download EVE... crap!!...I been trying so hard to resist the temptation Don't. Leave your shitposting and crying on these forums.
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 871	Posted - 2013.08.04 11:43:00 - [23] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: Quote: Now i am tempted to download EVE... crap!!...I been trying so hard to resist the temptation Don't. Leave your shitposting and crying on these forums. To late.. downloading as we speak ...
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 795	Posted - 2013.08.04 11:59:00 - [24] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Yea because DCUO and Dust 514 showed devs that F2P is possible on consoles. Yea and they said mobile gaming was the future too...and then the world produced Ouya. And we all know how Ouya is turning out. F2P also means " Subscription Free ", like Defiance have already done, and also Start Wars. Cheaper to buy games/subscription free/F2P MMO games, are the future. Look at FF14... coming out soon, and they doing exactly that. FF14 will be $12 a month.... but I will still play it.
Hasa Hakira Dust2Dust. Top Men. 30	Posted - 2013.08.04 12:33:00 - [25] - Quote I played almost every mainstream popular F2P game available so I will say this only once : Quote: NO !
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 871	Posted - 2013.08.04 14:25:00 - [26] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Yea because DCUO and Dust 514 showed devs that F2P is possible on consoles. Yea and they said mobile gaming was the future too...and then the world produced Ouya. And we all know how Ouya is turning out. F2P also means " Subscription Free ", like Defiance have already done, and also Start Wars. Cheaper to buy games/subscription free/F2P MMO games, are the future. Look at FF14... coming out soon, and they doing exactly that. FF14 will be $12 a month.... but I will still play it. It won't last... how much you want to bet, that it will be Subscription Free in 1 or 2 months ? Still downloading EvE ....20gb... I had to delete so much prom from my HDD ... I hope my old computer can run this. What is the minimum specs ?
Th3rdSun Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 456	Posted - 2013.08.04 15:34:00 - [27] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Yea because DCUO and Dust 514 showed devs that F2P is possible on consoles. Yea and they said mobile gaming was the future too...and then the world produced Ouya. And we all know how Ouya is turning out. You can't count DCUO in your example,because it started as a subscription based game while Dust has been F2P from day one,and one could argue the merits of whether Dust is a success or not.Personally at this point,I think it's a failure,and the lack of playerbase kind of proves that. I'm just speculating,but I'm pretty sure that EVE's subscription base is probably funding the development of Dust right now more so than AUR purchases on PSN.Don't believe it? Ask your self if Dust could survive financially if half of EVE's subs were cancelled.I'd say they would have to pull the plug fairly quick if that were ever to happen. And Ouya is just a console for indie devs,not a mobile platform.Ouya's problem is that you can get the same,if not better games for a tablet,with the convenience of it being portable for about the same price if you add another controller. Ouya is an underpowered waste of money that has no real viable targeted market.
Blazin Dank Concordiat Mercenaries Spaceship Samurai 8	Posted - 2013.08.04 16:45:00 - [28] - Quote I'd gladly pay a monthly subscription fee for DUST if they brought it up to A or AAA gaming standards. I assume that dev's and other ccp employees need to eat and have a place to sleep so I buy AUM. Not a lot of AUM but when I can (passed on the new CoD maps for a merc pack). In my business clients expect a quality product and that quality comes from $$$ given to me from clients that allows me to stay in business. 1 year ago I shut my doors to the public and started charging a membership fee/made people apply to become customers and business is booming. Dedicated customers and minimal complaints/issues and more time to actually do my job. Maybe it's a generation gap or the feeling of entitlement or whatever but I don't understand all the whining and bitching over a free game. I'm hoping a lot of this will die down with kids going back to school over the next few weeks! :D
da GAND 187. 225	Posted - 2013.08.04 16:48:00 - [29] - Quote I doubt there would be enough people buying AUR and Plex to pay for everything CCP and it's employees need.
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1096	Posted - 2013.08.04 20:58:00 - [30] - Quote Blazin Dank wrote: I'd gladly pay a monthly subscription fee for DUST if they brought it up to A or AAA gaming standards. I assume that dev's and other ccp employees need to eat and have a place to sleep so I buy AUM. Not a lot of AUM but when I can (passed on the new CoD maps for a merc pack). In my business clients expect a quality product and that quality comes from $$$ given to me from clients that allows me to stay in business. 1 year ago I shut my doors to the public and started charging a membership fee/made people apply to become customers and business is booming. Dedicated customers and minimal complaints/issues and more time to actually do my job. Maybe it's a generation gap or the feeling of entitlement or whatever but I don't understand all the whining and bitching over a free game. I'm hoping a lot of this will die down with kids going back to school over the next few weeks! :D You know Christmas? Dust 514 was the FPS nerd equivalent of Christmas. Christmas was stolen. It's not so much a generational entitlement thing as an international atrocity. We're just waiting for the Grinch to give it back now.



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